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Wait, so making orichalcum is just that simple for Zatanna? With the staff powering her she could make tons of the stuff.

I suspect the trouble greenies have with making complex constructs is partly due to guardian programming. Otherwise they could do like OL by willing the ring to handle the fiddly bits. They would still need to concentrate hard, but the ring AI would be doing the forms.
That wouldn't just be the guardians being control-freaky. Programming like that means a greenie can never do anything by accident since they have to understand every bit of whatever construct they make.
 
He wants the thing, the ring does the fiddly stuff. Greenies are the ones who have to do it the hard way.

I remember reading a comic where Lantern Jordan creates a lawnmower construct to mow down some alien weeds. So you're saying he couldn't do that on E-16-ZOAT?

EDIT: I say weeds. They were sapient beings. I'm being a bit of a dick here.
 
A glowing green set of grid lights appears in the air above us, horns honking as the first set of lights shine a dull green. Jordan and I switch our attention to totally focusing on one another. Another horn blast and the second set of lights come on. Immediately I generate construct armour while Jordan flies backwards to maximise the distance between us. A third horn blast and I fly towards Jordan at high speed while he swings his right arm in a punching motion and generates a swarm of boxing glove constructs, grinning confidently as he sends them at me.

huh, you know thinking about it, the exact shape of a green construct probably doesn't matter all that much. A mass of will shaped like a sledgehammer may well hit with as much force as one shaped like a boxing glove if they both have the same amount of will behind them. That actually explains the boxing gloves, if the effectiveness of the construct relies more on how much will is pumped into it then its form then simple constructs might actually work better for green lanterns. If that's true then this is actually a fairly effective attack, oh sure it looks silly but strip away the shape and it's basically a bunch of homing energy blasts, Ol might have misjudged jordan.

Flak gun constructs appear on my shoulders and bolts of orange energy meet and disintegrate each one. A simple scan shows him generating a baseball bat construct while my vision is obscured… He's actually holding it in his hands. Numpty. I send thin filaments out from me in all directions, reaching out for any green light they might encounter.

or not. I mean unless holding it makes it easier for him to pump will into it or something, there is literally no reason for him to do that.

Guy gives me a respectful nod as he floats closer. "That wasn't.. actually the big snake though, right?"

"Of course not. Her head's narrower than that."

there is just something endearing about OL's reaction here, can't quite put my finger on it.


"Ye-ah." Guy looks more embarrassed than anything. "Haven't been sleepin' too good lately. Head's like it's fulla cotton wool. Dunno why. I'd blame Tora-"

"Please don't."

"-but it ain't that."

why mr chekhov, that is quite a fine firearm you have up on your mantel.



Sephtian was more than happy to work on the design for a magic battery. He was even willing to devise a version which took full advantage of orichalcum's greater enchantability, though I didn't ask him to make one. No sense implicating him. No sense implicating Io either, which is why Zatanna has spent some time on Themyscira watching her work.

"Dlog dna reppoc ot muclahciro."

I watch as the metal begins to transmute and our storage vessel begins to take shape. Not exactly energy efficient, doing it like this. But it does preserve the secret, and that's the more important thing.

is it a chekhov's gun if you know exactly what it's being aimed at?


so usual opening chapter of an episode, mostly working on setup for the plot of the episode, and possibly getting in some foreshadowing for later episodes. Should be interesting so what happens next.
 
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Guy had a villain called Evil Star, maybe that's why he's weird.
Evil Star was actually mentioned earlier in the story.

"Starro the Conqueror?" Lantern Stewart turns around. "That's the dumbest name I've ever heard. Why would the Green Lantern Corps have any information you don't on an Earth supervillian?"

"I dunno John, I've heard dumber names than that." Guy thinks for a moment. "Crazy Quilt. Doctor Spectro. Rainbow Archer."

"Evil Star."

He nods. "Evil S-. Hey! Evil Star was a legitimate threat."

"He makes super powered midget versions of himself."

"And energy blasts." He shrugs. "Hey, I never said he wasn't lame too."
 
John Stewart once nearly reconstructed a planet with his ring and sufficient Willpower. That suggests there's a threshold where ability to conceptualize exactly how it's supposed to happen falls by the wayside to raw willpower and focus.
 
Jordan's a bit of a cocky prick, ain't he? I mean yeah, Paul's a little arrogant, but I think that after everything he's been through it's been sufficiently proven that he knows a thing or two about how to use a power ring. Heck, he's probably the best expert on the Orange Light you'll find barring the Controllers.
 
"Nepo." The cardboard's
No. 'cardboard outer' is the object.
Wait, so making orichalcum is just that simple for Zatanna?
She needed to observe and study the process of making it first, but basically 'yes'.
With the staff powering her she could make tons of the stuff.
Only in the service of love.
I suspect the trouble greenies have with making complex constructs is partly due to guardian programming. Otherwise they could do like OL by willing the ring to handle the fiddly bits. They would still need to concentrate hard, but the ring AI would be doing the forms.
No, they can't. Guardians themselves can create complex constructs just fine. Regular Lanterns struggle to concentrate on all of the fiddily little bits, which they need to becuase construct strength is determined by mental focus.
I remember reading a comic where Lantern Jordan creates a lawnmower construct to mow down some alien weeds. So you're saying he couldn't do that on E-16-ZOAT?
What, a box with a rotating blade? No problem at all. He couldn't make a lawnmower construct that functioned mechanically, but how often is he going to need to?
Another question is what audience are they practicing in front of? Fellow league members? Friends and family? Bystanders?
It came up before that with a group of Lanterns regularly practicing in one place, a group of people have started turning up to watch.
John Stewart once nearly reconstructed a planet with his ring and sufficient Willpower. That suggests there's a threshold where ability to conceptualize exactly how it's supposed to happen falls by the wayside to raw willpower and focus.
In this setting, that would not be possible. If you've got enough willpower to break a ring then you're a Guardian.
 
Wait, so making orichalcum is just that simple for Zatanna? With the staff powering her she could make tons of the stuff.

I suspect the trouble greenies have with making complex constructs is partly due to guardian programming. Otherwise they could do like OL by willing the ring to handle the fiddly bits. They would still need to concentrate hard, but the ring AI would be doing the forms.
That wouldn't just be the guardians being control-freaky. Programming like that means a greenie can never do anything by accident since they have to understand every bit of whatever construct they make.

No, I believe that Zoat has said that Will just requires more visualization . If it were a guardian safety feature, it probably wouldn't be solely a green thing- The guardians designed the orange rings too, after all.

And while I don't know about here, in the comics Green lanterns could totally accidentally use their rings- Penelops accidentally changed his planet's orbit, Arisia supposedly didn't age herself up to date Hal Jordan on purpose, and I doubt Driq just woke up one day and said to himself, "Self, I think I'll use my ring to turn into a zombie if killed., because zombies are cool."
 
...I'm pretty sure the Controllers did the Orange stuff, not the Guardians.

No, the Controllers wanted to harness the orange light for their own corps, but the map that lead Agent Orange to the orange battery was made by Krona on Maltus, before the Guardians left for Oa, and hence before the Controllers left Oa to form their own society.

I suppose if you want to get technical, this would make the creation of the orange battery pre-Guardian as well, but the majority of Maltusians chose to become Guardians.

Now, since Krona kept all the embodiments as pets and made the prototype of the green lantern technology and made the map that led to the orange lantern, the rather natural assumption is that Krona is at least partially responsible for making the orange lantern.

And if the proto-Controllers had much to do with making the orange lantern and rings, one would assume that instead of going to Okaara and getting killed, they would have just start making their own rings and batteries.
 
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