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Shepard Quest Mk VII, Age of Revy (ME/MCU)

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@tri2 can we spend money on setting up on bounties on Batarian Pirate ships? And on perhaps a media campaign so people might join?

We also need to expand ParSec if at all possible. Perhaps relax the standards a little but still emphasize military discipline.

And this argument whether or not to sell... Why do we need to? It's not like SA is flushed with cash for new suits when they can't even afford to outfit everyone with the old one. An old one that has yet to be matched. That being said, I'm not against selling it. Just not yet. It's barely been a few years since the MK1 has been out in the market anyway. We don't need a Apple upgrade cycle. If people can't contain the urge not to sell it, we should at least keep it for ParSec and N7.
 
@Red Bovine if the army was going to buy new suits to give to the best man why didn't that logic carry over to the mecha suits. They wanted to buy it but didn't have the budget to. What makes you think the MK 2 will be any different?

Plus your acting like we have both the economic and production base to sell and produce enough suits to make a difference if the Reapers stop playing soft ball. Your analysis is contingent on Shepard being able to sell to everyone to even out the numbers and having enough production to have it widely adopted.

The four eyes cannot match us in ground troops. The only reason they match ship based combat is ships even with their bump in tech.

Edit: Do we need vets? We have skill share to train up people in less time.
 
Dark as Silver said:
Erm, how about we question if cops even need state of the art military technology?
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We're in the middle of war. If the Batarians land then the police will be a line of defense.
Could also make a SWAT overcoat to go with it
w34v3r said:
We got skillshare, we don't need to drop standards on anything important anymore.
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That's what we should sell the (chips? Data sticks? USB? Programs? Floppy disks? Let's call them floppy disks as a throw back to the time when to save/doom the world you just needed a floppy disk!) as! The Skill Share Initiative! We can speed up training via the Skill Share Initiative's Floppy Disks!
@tri2 I looked, I didn't see anything that'd be any bit as a significant risk as it was then. Does the suit have physical Omni and Prothean blades in it?
If the Legionary has ANI then shouldn't this Mk II have ANI?
 
Darkcore41 said:
@Red Bovine if the army was going to buy new suits to give to the best man why didn't that logic carry over to the mecha suits. They wanted to buy it but didn't have the budget to. What makes you think the MK 2 will be any different?

Plus your acting like we have both the economic and production base to sell and produce enough suits to make a difference if the Reapers stop playing soft ball. Your analysis is contingent on Shepard being able to sell to everyone to even out the numbers and having enough production to have it widely adopted.

The four eyes cannot match us in ground troops. The only reason they match ship based combat is ships even with their bump in tech.

Edit: Do we need vets? We have skill share to train up people in less time.
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Regarding the Vets, I think at the time we were going for less the skills but more of the mindset and discipline. Now we can deal with the former, so we need to focus more on the latter.
 
Darkcore41 said:
Then maybe we should build an academy. With Skill share we only have discipline as a point of issue. Maybe build a bunch of academies to both help SA recruit and our own PMC.
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we already have an army academy l think. we made it when we started recruiting it is the location we train our men at

edit- we needed to train the vets in power armour after all they where brand new at the time
 
Doccer said:
We're in the middle of war. If the Batarians land then the police will be a line of defense.
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... Okay so this is weird because I don't think we've seen any sign that the SA are buying fewer suits than we can make. Why not equip the first line of defense rather than the last? You know, the professional soldiers.
Also, I don't think police are typically a line of defense, maybe that goes out the window when the invaders are also possibly slavers however generally they cooperate with invaders to maintain order. If the armies beaten the police aren't going to do shit, so its a harm reduction thing at that point
 
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Doccer said:
@tri2 I looked, I didn't see anything that'd be any bit as a significant risk as it was then. Does the suit have physical Omni and Prothean blades in it?
If the Legionary has ANI then shouldn't this Mk II have ANI?
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just slap a pair of oversized omnitools onto your arms and you have two blades easy, no need to be part of the suit
 
[X] Yes, donate the planetary defenses
[X] Yes, sell UV lasers to customers
[X] Keep Cortana name
[X] Default Halo Cortana

Did we just accidentally an AI into existence... oops. I guess we better get that license.
 
cageorks said:
we already have an army academy l think. we made it when we started recruiting it is the location we train our men at

edit- we needed to train the vets in power armour after all they where brand new at the time
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It'd be a good test run to show off the Skill Share program. Still take training. It's not an instant thing to gain the muscle memory.
Dark as Silver said:
... Okay so this is weird because I don't think we've seen any sign that the SA are buying fewer suits than we can make. Why not equip the first line of defense rather than the last? You know, the professional soldiers.
Also, I don't think police are typically a line of defense, maybe that goes out the window when the invaders are also possibly slavers however generally they cooperate with invaders to maintain order. If the armies beaten the police aren't going to do shit, so its a harm reduction thing at that point
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Reread what you said there. If this was supposed be a conquering war maybe. But these are Batarians. And pirates. They ain't taken over they are gonna enslave every man woman and child. Slavery is their main source of business. Is that the kind of order you wish to maintain? Is that what our human police officers are supposed to enforce upon the populace? Protect slaver interests and Serve up sentient cattle for the slaughter and de-personhooding? When Batarians attacked Mindoir that very first time I suspect EVERYONE could have used that armor. If the Batarians defeat a colony the only ones left behind will be the dead.
And here's an solution to your only supply one or the other problem: how about we don't? We have a very large company that can do ALOT at once. So let's supply the military AND the police! I know it's a scary and novel thought but I assure you PI can handle it.
tri2 said:
just slap a pair of oversized omnitools onto your arms and you have two blades easy, no need to be part of the suit
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Sure.
I was thinking options and how different stuff might react to different shields/armor.
Can we make Tech Armor apart if the armor? Do we need research for that? Can't really recall if that was in ME1.
 
Doccer said:
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Reread what you said there. If this was supposed be a conquering war maybe. But these are Batarians. And pirates. They ain't taken over they are gonna enslave every man woman and child. Slavery is their main source of business. Is that the kind of order you wish to maintain? Is that what our human police officers are supposed to enforce upon the populace? Protect slaver interests and Serve up sentient cattle for the slaughter and de-personhooding? When Batarians attacked Mindoir that very first time I suspect EVERYONE could have used that armor. If the Batarians defeat a colony the only ones left behind will be the dead.
And here's an solution to your only supply one or the other problem: how about we don't? We have a very large company that can do ALOT at once. So let's supply the military AND the police! I know it's a scary and novel thought but I assure you PI can handle it.
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One thing I hate about internet arguments its when I say "Oh also," as in, this isn't my main argument but its interesting. People seem to fixate on it.

Despite your apparent beliefs, we do not have infinite production to supply every possible use of the suit in Systems alliance space and if we tried to we'd probably actually annoy the military as I assume their priorities for PA's production go Spaceships for SA-> Legionaries/Tigers/Hammerheads for SA-> Spaceships for Paragon Security -> Legionaries/Tigers/Hammerheads for national armies -> Legionaries/Tigers/Hammerheads for Paragon Security -> Selling to literally any other human PMC fighting the Batarians -> Hyper arming planetary forces that don't even operate on a country sized area and aren't trained to use this.

We do have a very large company however you're underestimating how large the economy of a state that spans multiple star systems is. Did you see all of those factories we started building this turn? We're about just about tripling our production because everything we make is in such high demand and those aren't coming online for another 6 months. Maybe then we can start talking about expanding the legionary to non military product lines, but honestly I think we're still not going to have a problem selling our maximum production capacity.
 
Dark as Silver said:
In a world where hover cars exist, I'm not convinced speed of response is the biggest issue people face regarding police.
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Right so its normal for cops to jump out of their car to stop a speeding one at high speeds over a thousand feet in the sky. Since the suits can fly its logical that they can fly fast, are pretty much quick on maneuvers and is something a patrolling cop would be wearing when they get a call in of a on going pursuit, without the pit maneuver (something for cars on n the ground) being unavailable in the sky as a uncontrolled fast moving and flying car is not something you want to happen while in the sky. So the police suit comes in handy on taking down the perp quickly and gain control of the flying car. Without causing it to go haywire and start crashing into buildings and raining rubble down to the people below. Since whatever guns the criminal would have would bounce off the suits own shields and even without said shields armor.
 
could we make a tech that would allow any race to have children together. with the effect that the baby will always be the mothers race due to her carrying the baby?
 
cageorks said:
could we make a tech that would allow any race to have children together. with the effect that the baby will always be the mothers race due to her carrying the baby?
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think that is called nanotech
zac1 said:
Right so its normal for cops to jump out of their car to stop a speeding one at high speeds over a thousand feet in the sky. Since the suits can fly its logical that they can fly fast, are pretty much quick on maneuvers and is something a patrolling cop would be wearing when they get a call in of a on going pursuit, without the pit maneuver (something for cars on n the ground) being unavailable in the sky as a uncontrolled fast moving and flying car is not something you want to happen while in the sky. So the police suit comes in handy on taking down the perp quickly and gain control of the flying car. Without causing it to go haywire and start crashing into buildings and raining rubble down to the people below. Since whatever guns the criminal would have would bounce off the suits own shields and even without said shields armor.
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so you want to just build transformers? Police car chases you down, you land, police car proceeds to turn into a 15 ft tall giant robot and lands in front of you staring you down before issuing you a ticket for speeding, public indecency, and littering the street with bodily wastes. :V
 
tri2 said:
think that is called nanotech

so you want to just build transformers? Police car chases you down, you land, police car proceeds to turn into a 15 ft tall giant robot and lands in front of you staring you down before issuing you a ticket for speeding, public indecency, and littering the street with bodily wastes. :V
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That is a cool idea, but nah I think we just stick to flying power armor suits.
 
tri2 said:
think that is called nanotech
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oh l was under the impression that nanotech was more medical regeneration focused not reproductive. my mind was going the way of the asari here with how they can take DNA of other species due to them being a parasite race and incorparate that into others that wish.....oh oh l see yea most likely would be nanotech just a small bit more focused
 
tri2 said:
As it stands right now? Revy still at high risk of dying in a one on one fight with this suit. Why? Please reread the beginning of the fight for why.
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Thank you! Really, feels like people forget way too often that we are going up against a race that is over a billion years old. Have no idea why people keep acting like Revy automatically surpasses a hyper advanced billion year old race at the start of the game. Don't get me wrong, Revy being able to near single handedly approach such a races tech level within a few decade is pretty damn insane. Still again we are at the start of said game and even Tony Stark needed time to build up and improve his own tech.

Imperial Lord said:
Is everyone forgetting what was already said in the quest? Power armor is still years away from being commonplace in every conflict and the Legionary is still advanced enough that everyone else is still playing catchup. From what I'm seeing there is no reason to roll out the Mk.2 for mass production when the 1.5 is still dominating things, keep for personal use yes, but it requires to many things that Revy has personal access too and is not willing to share anyway(GenIII arc reactor) and stripping it down without all that stuff defeats all it advantages.
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And around 2 turns ago people thought that the Batarian's couldn't beat us due to having lower tech only to show up in space with way better tech. I have no idea why people are acting like them getting better ground tech is impossible considering that we have precedence that isn't going to always be the case. Especially since Sovereign is backing them up.

Like really, as I pointed out the Batarian's seem like they would be working on or have their own power armor to keep up parity with the SA who was making hundreds of thousands a year before the war. Considering that it's noted that the tanks and IFV's are the things giving them real trouble assumed that they already had at least a primitive form of power armor that they rolled up for a chunk of their army.
Darkcore41 said:
@Red Bovine if the army was going to buy new suits to give to the best man why didn't that logic carry over to the mecha suits. They wanted to buy it but didn't have the budget to. What makes you think the MK 2 will be any different?

Plus your acting like we have both the economic and production base to sell and produce enough suits to make a difference if the Reapers stop playing soft ball. Your analysis is contingent on Shepard being able to sell to everyone to even out the numbers and having enough production to have it widely adopted.
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I literally went over this, while likely more expensive than the MK1 they'd likely still be less expensive than say a full on mech. So I'd say they'd probably want them for their most elite people which would make it practical since they'd only need to supply a very small number of super elite soldiers with them then say entire armies.
 
zac1 said:
Right so its normal for cops to jump out of their car to stop a speeding one at high speeds over a thousand feet in the sky. Since the suits can fly its logical that they can fly fast, are pretty much quick on maneuvers and is something a patrolling cop would be wearing when they get a call in of a on going pursuit, without the pit maneuver (something for cars on n the ground) being unavailable in the sky as a uncontrolled fast moving and flying car is not something you want to happen while in the sky. So the police suit comes in handy on taking down the perp quickly and gain control of the flying car. Without causing it to go haywire and start crashing into buildings and raining rubble down to the people below. Since whatever guns the criminal would have would bounce off the suits own shields and even without said shields armor.
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I don't think its normal in any setting for cops to need to perform high speed aerial boarding manoeuvres, however I will observe that they must be able to manage it somehow in canon.
Even given they have Iron Man suits I have a hard time imagining that occurs without a fatal crash for the people being pulled over and nearby bystanders. And possibly the cop anyway, genuinely unsure if Legionaries are rated for that.
Frankly if they're willing to endanger the lives of the suspect like that there are probably better ways of doing it.

And even more realistically: The police will have some kind of backdoor to the suspects cars computer that can force it to land....

As for armed perps and stuff, regular shields are perfectly capable of soaking up a quite significant amount of firepower before they need to recharge, you aren't demonstrating that their current equipment is insufficient.
 
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