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No the Aquarians are the Hanar, they're jelly fish people.
We're talking about Quarians, who are photoshopped humans who in canon refused to pick another world other than their homeworld because their immune systems were so bad.
Shepard Quest Mk VII, Age of Revy (ME/MCU)
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We're talking about Quarians, who are photoshopped humans who in canon refused to pick another world other than their homeworld because their immune systems were so bad.
As far as I can tell that is in fact what happened. There's this whole bit where they tried to settle an unclaimed world, and got kicked off after people found out.
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Well they did try to settle a new world, but the turians said no and kicked them off, something about them being more important and need that world because like the Quarians the Turians are dextro oh and the Turians are the galaxies protectors.
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As far as I can see. No they never found one or one suitable. And only a minority seem to have considered somewhere else:
Article: Ever since, the quarians have drifted from system to system, searching for resources to sustain the Migrant Fleet and also for a new world to colonize. They even retain hopes of someday reclaiming Rannoch from the geth.
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Nedas Movement
Most quarians are united in the dream of someday retaking Rannoch from the geth. A clandestine few believe otherwise, coalesced into the Nedas Movement, and advocated simply starting over on another world.
Did you have a source I could see?
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Ah, good, where did this happen?
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Ah shoot I think that was fanon my bad. Tho I wouldnt put it past the council and other associates on doing that however.
Not to mention, if they settle in a new world, none of the Quarians would be able to remove their suits in their lifetime. On Rannach, they would be able to breathe fresh air and feel the ground between their toes within their lifespans.
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We've all been there, and I was genuinely asking.
Helpful thanks a lot.
Two diplomatic incidents in multiple centuries really shows how half hearted quarian settlement attempts are... Unless ME writers weren't using Uber's estimate and infact habitable candidates for the quarians were very few and far between because they existed as a genre conceit.
Well that's two that are notable. That's probably not including all the early attempts they made to just go through the normal process, or the ones that failed before they went anywhere due to being too close to someone nasty who wasn't part of the citadel, or because they couldn't get their immune systems to work despite promising initial results.
Mass Effect has (sadly) often been more of a tell then show game in a lot of ways. Like we are told that there are trillions of lives which implies thousands of planets but we are never really shown the signs of trillions of people and thousands of planets and shown many things (like the Earth Alliance mattering in the slightest with a population in the low billions) that contradict it. Then we are told stuff like less then 1% of the galaxy being explored which sounds tiny until you realize there are 400 billion stars in the Milky Way so 1% is still four billion stars which even if one in a million is habitable also implies thousands of habitable worlds. So there are multiple sources saying one thing and multiple sources showing another and there isn't really a clear answer either way.
In this case however while the feasibility of the idea is kinda stupid what we are told and what we are shown does match up in the case of the Quarians. They are space gypsies hated and discriminated against by everyone and forced to stay perpetually on the move because everyone hates them. The only known example of the Quarians trying to colonize a planet results in their rapid expulsion under threat of military force. We know that in at least one case the Volus tried to get the Citadel Council to force the Quarians to hurry up and leave one of their systems and only failed due to them needing to recover from the Battle of the Citadel.
If I was to try and explain things I'd say that the Quarians in the early days wanted to reclaim their homeland and weren't interested in settling down. Then as the generations who were born on starships started replacing those born on planets they started searching for a new homeland, having recognized the impossibility of dislodging the Geth by now. Except Quarians already are very limited on where they can colonize (dextro-protins and weak immune systems) and the century or so of life on clean starships has made that even worse (crippled immune systems). This compounds with having limited resources, their ships are a century old at this point so much of the fleets resources are already going into maintenance, so their ability to search for new planets is highly limited, ships venturing off alone risk destruction and the fleet needs to stay in civilized space for ready access to supplies. So the Quarians are restricted to worlds discovered by other races but not yet claimed which limits their viable choices to just a handful even across centuries of searching; a small enough number that it was practical for the discriminatory elements of the Citadel races to disrupt any attempt at colonization.
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This gives me an idea, we know that the Migrant fleet transports 17 million people all the time. How do people feel about the idea of giving the Quarians a planet, along with an improved Arcology and other resources, in exchange for their fleet or at least most of it? Being able to move 10 million people a trip would be huge for us and would be enough to fill up an improved arcology. And while we could technically build our own ships for that that would take a lot more time and resources and it seems like it would be faster to refit some of the Quarians ships.
Think this could be something we get started on right away. Especially if we give them the peak treatments and fix their immune system.
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doubt they would trade their ship, those are their Home not just a ship or house. Even if they got Rannoch back they still probably would not want to part with their homeships.
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How about renting their ships then? Even if not all of them are willing to do so even half or even a third would be great for our uses.
Quarian ships, while numerous, are outdated and mostly fixed with patchwork repairs. I would imagine that what the Quarians can offer isn't ships but knowledge and skills. They have been spacefaring for centuries. Their engineering knowledge, spacefaring skills, and exploration of space (Quarians hold the record for the most mass relays discovered) would be very valuable.
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Again, as I pointed out seems like it would take a long time to even be able to build transport capability to even a tenth of the Quarians a long time. Even if the ships are outdated they are already built and any proper repairs seem like it would drastically be shorter than building up from scratch. Even if we do something like renting for a bit it would seem like it would be a big boost until we can design and build better transport ships.
Going to have to deny this bit here. Speaking from real world experience, it is FAR cheaper and easier to make a brand new ship than it is to update and fix an old ship to its' original spec, even more so if you try to update it to modern spec. Even if you took an 80+ year old ship and just repaired it to its' old spec when it launched. It would cost upward of 8 times the cost of just making a new one. That isn't taking into account that a good part of the Quarian fleets are the same ships they left Rannoch with, which are almost 300 years old. Which even in the best case scenario? Would almost certainly take at least twenty times more money to repair them than to just buy a brand new, more modern ship.
Even their Engineering prowess works against them here. All of their ships have custom repair work that they have to do continuously just to keep them going. Which then needs repairs for THOSE repairs down the line. By this point almost 300 years later, those original ships have practically nothing of their original parts left and most certainly are not up to original spec. Let alone modern spec. It even tells us this in canon, with the fact that the entire time that Shepard was desk bound on Earth [half a year], the Quarian Fleet spent that entire time plus at least another 4 months in game, just to update their Fleets as much as they could to make war on the Geth. [By the time we get back to Earth at the end of the game, it is mentioned that over half a year has passed. Considering the Quarian/Geth war is the conflict just before we go after Cerberus, that places it at least around 4-5 months into the conflict/game.]
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Just to add on to my post above, when you are repairing an older ship back to its' original spec you run into the problem of finding parts for it. The people who made the original ships that the Quarians had are themselves. Which presents an interesting problem for them. They have not the facilities to make said parts, or people/races willing to make them for them. They became pariahs on an intergalactic level practically overnight with functionally no currency, no materials/minerals to barter with, and no actual government to negotiate with other polities with. They in fact, have no government after the Morning War and all that is left to represent their race off Rannoch is a pseudo-military Junta that is formed from what Admirals remain of their fleets.
Thusly, they have no ability to manufacture parts for those old ships from the get go. So they expand their fleet with whatever ships they can scavenge or elsewise barter for with their services/whatever materials they mine from asteroids. This continues for almost 300 years. Even if they dedicated a full half of whatever resources they had to fixing and upgrading the ships they had in their possession. I firmly doubt that even 2/3rds of their fleet [including the 'new' vessels they have] meets modern standards by the time of the Second Geth War.
Thusly, they have no ability to manufacture parts for those old ships from the get go. So they expand their fleet with whatever ships they can scavenge or elsewise barter for with their services/whatever materials they mine from asteroids. This continues for almost 300 years. Even if they dedicated a full half of whatever resources they had to fixing and upgrading the ships they had in their possession. I firmly doubt that even 2/3rds of their fleet [including the 'new' vessels they have] meets modern standards by the time of the Second Geth War.
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Why stop there? If this is for Tali's pilgrimage, we have to go over the top for our friend. Tali's gift has to outshine every other pilgrimage gift before and ever. Not just a new planet, but also a cure to the Quarian immune system and a facility to build new ships that can work on replacing some of the ships that the Migrant fleet uses. To the point that when Tali returns bearing the gift, the Admiralty resigns out of shame and grants her a title of Admiral God queen.
I hope so. If I was infected with AIDS, I wouldn't want a doctor to use a manual detailing the maintenance of a battleship to research how to cure me.
I'm interested in building Kuat Drive Yards; I imagine that having streamlined construction lines (ie 'this makes toasters') instead of the highly modular stuff ('this could build toasters, or pharmaceuticals, or FTL cores, or anything in between') would give some sort of BP discount or speed boost, and unless I miss my guess we'll be building LLPs for a while (and likely those automated exploration drones). Also we'll likely want to build up some Cruiser-sized passenger or cargo ships in time, while still leaving megaprojects like Citadel-esque habitats or Relays.
...plus it's an excuse to build an Orbital Ring, and who doesn't like that? (Do such already exist in-setting?)
"It seems your hull plating was poorly maintained."
"You mean my skin?"
"Look, this is a learning experience for both of us, don't rush me."
...plus it's an excuse to build an Orbital Ring, and who doesn't like that? (Do such already exist in-setting?)
"It seems your hull plating was poorly maintained."
"You mean my skin?"
"Look, this is a learning experience for both of us, don't rush me."
Add shipgirls to the pile of "things to invent".