It could go either way. Legion says: "...each Geth unit would be a true intelligence, we would be alive..." and "Geth unit" could refer to each program or each platform, I remember "unit" generally referring to the platform over the individual Geth programs running on the platform.
Shepard Quest Mk VI, Technological Revolution
- Thread starter Hoyr
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It could go either way. Legion says: "...each Geth unit would be a true intelligence, we would be alive..." and "Geth unit" could refer to each program or each platform, I remember "unit" generally referring to the platform over the individual Geth programs running on the platform.
Question, is voting still open?
I also want to posit two new new research projects.
The first one is relatively simple, it's essentially a small cheep(ish) unmanned VI controlled scouting drone ship capable of getting to any other system in range, mining resources, building a bunch of different drones (which will be mostly left behind when/if it moves on so they can be used for other things) and surveying on its own.
The major prerequisites for this are swarm networking, the com douy stuff and/or the quantum communications systems.
The other project is essentially building the equivalent of a (later generation) BOLO.
The three largest scientific and political hurdles to this are the main gun (a multi ton hunk of stuff propelled to ludicrous speed via a nuke), the AI (will be needed because organics, baring specially altered salarians, won't be capable of reacting fast enough, and those that can won't be able to 'see' everything) and large/mega scale mobile ground construction.
There's also the swarm networking, shield and other weapons tech.
I also want to posit two new new research projects.
The first one is relatively simple, it's essentially a small cheep(ish) unmanned VI controlled scouting drone ship capable of getting to any other system in range, mining resources, building a bunch of different drones (which will be mostly left behind when/if it moves on so they can be used for other things) and surveying on its own.
The major prerequisites for this are swarm networking, the com douy stuff and/or the quantum communications systems.
The other project is essentially building the equivalent of a (later generation) BOLO.
The three largest scientific and political hurdles to this are the main gun (a multi ton hunk of stuff propelled to ludicrous speed via a nuke), the AI (will be needed because organics, baring specially altered salarians, won't be capable of reacting fast enough, and those that can won't be able to 'see' everything) and large/mega scale mobile ground construction.
There's also the swarm networking, shield and other weapons tech.
Pretty sure; can someone on Windows do a tally so us clods on non-MS operating systems know what the current options are?
The other prerequisites are that we create an AI and we either discard or change Council laws restricting AIs and self-replicating machine swarms (right now they're in the same arms control treaty that makes the nuke swarm the Batarians hit us with illegal).
The biggest problem with a fully-automated self-replicating swarm like the one you describe is what happens if and when it discovers something that's alive, especially something sentient/sapient. If your automated system is not intelligent enough you run the risk of this new type (or maybe already known type!) of lifeform being thrown into the mining hopper with the surrounding soil; congratulations, you've just become a genocidal monster.
The second-biggest problem with a fully-automated self-replicating swarm is dealing with odd maintenance issues. One of the reasons that sapients are stationed on mining ships (other than to check to make sure nothing living is accidentally tossed into the vats) is to handle any odd maintenance issues that the onboard VIs aren't equipped to handle.
The third biggest problem with a fully-automated self-replicating swarm is telling the thing to stop, because by the time you've gotten to the "enough I'm done" side of your exponentially-increasing von Neuman swarm you're probably outnumbered a trillion to one by AI drone swarms. How can you be certain they're all still loyal to you, and will stop when you tell them to?
Here you go:
Vote Tally : Shepard Quest Mk VI, Technological Revolution | Page 487 | Sufficient Velocity
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[X] STG-SPECTRE Joint Report concerning Rebecca Shepard
No. of Votes: 16
-[X] All enemy tech to be placed in an isolated sealed vault with full radiological, EM shielding and whatever else we can think of until it can be verified as safe.
-[X] Our drones are to put towards search and rescue while our forces conduct a sweep of our facility, Afterwards any spare staff are asked to aid the planetary government.
-[X] Any serviceable building will be used for humanitarian aid unless it's a critical security risk.
-[X] Personally provide remote assistance to the recovery efforts however possible.
-[X] Once security and S&R efforts are complete, secure salvage rights and concentrate on salvage of eezo cores. We're going to need a lot of eezo soon, and most of the battlefield salvage is ours by right of conquest.
-[X] Divert our VI development company to hack what remains of the Sol invasion fleet's computers, and whatever other resources it takes (even RP from next quarter if necessary) to find out how the hell the Batarians managed to bypass Arcturus and invade Sol. This is a huge priority!
No. of Votes: 11
-[X] All enemy tech to be placed in an isolated sealed vault with full radiological, EM shielding and whatever else we can think of until it can be verified as safe.
-[X] Our drones are to put towards search and resuce while our forces conduct a sweep of our facility, Afterwards any spare staff are asked to aid the planetary government.
-[X] Any serviceable building will be used for humanitarian aid unless it's a critical security risk.
-[X] Personally provide remote assistance to the recovery efforts however possible.
No. of Votes: 8
[X] Interlude for who?
-[X] The Illusive Man
-[X] The Shadow Broker
-[X] The Citadel Council
No. of Votes: 5
[X] Interlude for who?
-[X] STG-SPECTRE Joint Report concerning Rebecca Shepard
-[X] A member of the Illuminated Primacy (Hanar government)
-[X] Aria T'Loak
-[X] The Illusive Man
-[X] The Shadow Broker
-[X] Sovereign/Nazara
-[X] Harbinger
No. of Votes: 2
[X] Interlude for who?
-[X] STG-SPECTRE Joint Report concerning Rebecca Shepard
-[X] A member of the Illuminated Primacy (Hanar government)
-[X] Aria T'Loak
No. of Votes: 2
[X] As of yet unnamed Turian Patriarch
No. of Votes: 1
[X] The Illusive Man
No. of Votes: 1
[X] Human ambassador to the council.
No. of Votes: 1
[x] Liara
No. of Votes: 1
[X] Interlude for who?
-[X] STG-SPECTRE Joint Report concerning Rebecca Shepard
-[X] A member of the Illuminated Primacy (Hanar government)
-[X] Aria T'Loak
-[X] The Illusive Man
-[X] The Shadow Broker
-[X] Sovereign/Nazara
-[X] The Citadel Council
-[X] high ranking systems alliance officer (maybe one who wasn't our/our tech's biggest fan for some reason?)
No. of Votes: 1
[x]TheEyes
No. of Votes: 1
[X] Minor details
-[X] All enemy tech to be placed in an isolated sealed vault with full radiological, EM shielding and whatever else we can think of until it can be verified as safe.
-[X] Our drones are to put towards search and rescue while our forces conduct a sweep of our facility, Afterwards any spare staff are asked to aid the planetary government.
-[X] Any serviceable building will be used for humanitarian aid unless it's a critical security risk.
-[X] Personally provide remote assistance to the recovery efforts however possible.
No. of Votes: 1
[X] Minor details
-[X] All enemy tech to be placed in an isolated sealed vault with full radiological, EM shielding and whatever else we can think of, like randomly ascillating gravitational fields around it, until it can be verified as safe.
-[X] Our drones are to put towards search and rescue while our forces conduct a sweep of our facility, Afterwards any spare staff are asked to aid the planetary government.
-[X] Any serviceable building will be used for humanitarian aid unless it's a critical security risk.
-[X] Personally provide remote assistance to the recovery efforts however possible.
-[X] Check on your parents and friends
No. of Votes: 1
[X] Highest echelons of turian government
No. of Votes: 1
-[X] All enemy tech to be placed in an isolated sealed vault with full radiological, EM shielding and whatever else we can think of until it can be verified as safe.
-[X] Our drones are to put towards search and resuce while our forces conduct a sweep of our facility, Afterwards any spare staff are asked to aid the planetary government.
-[X] Any serviceable building will be used for humanitarian aid unless it's a critical security risk.
-[X] Personally provide remote assistance to the recovery efforts however possible.
No. of Votes: 1
[x] Interlude: Various news reports about the batarian attack. (Asari, Turian, etc.)
No. of Votes: 1
[X] Minor details
-[X] All enemy tech to be placed in an isolated sealed vault with full radiological, EM shielding and whatever else we can think of until it can be verified as safe.
-[X] Our drones are to put towards search and rescue while our forces conduct a sweep of our facility, Afterwards any spare staff are asked to aid the planetary government.
-[X] Any serviceable building will be used for humanitarian aid unless it's a critical security risk.
-[X] Personally provide remote assistance to the recovery efforts however possible.
-[X] Once security and S&R efforts are complete, secure salvage rights and concentrate on salvage of eezo cores. We're going to need a lot of eezo soon, and most of the battlefield salvage is ours by right of conquest.
-[X] Divert our VI development company to hack what remains of the Sol invasion fleet's computers, and whatever other resources it takes (even RP from next quarter if necessary) to find out how the hell the Batarians managed to bypass Arcturus and invade Sol.
No. of Votes: 1
[X] Interlude for who?
-[X] STG-SPECTRE Joint Report concerning Rebecca Shepard and Paragon.
-[X] Sovereign/Nazara
No. of Votes: 1
[X] Interlude for who?
-[X] STG-SPECTRE Joint Report concerning Rebecca Shepard and Paragon.
-[x] Various news reports about the batarian attack. (Asari, Turian, etc.)
No. of Votes: 1
[X] Interlude for who?
-[X] STG-SPECTRE Joint Report concerning Rebecca Shepard
No. of Votes: 1
[X]Interlude: Ariana T'Loak
No. of Votes: 1
[X]Interlude: Leviathans
No. of Votes: 1
[X]Interlude: The Thorian
No. of Votes: 1
[X] Interlude for who?
-[X] Batarian High Command
No. of Votes: 1
[X] STG-SPECTRE Joint Report concerning Rebecca Shepard - 25
No. of Votes: 1
[X] The Illusive Man -11
No. of Votes: 1
[X] The Shadow Broker -10
No. of Votes: 1
[X] The Citadel Council -7
No. of Votes: 1
[X] Aria T'Loak -7
No. of Votes: 1
[X] A member of the Illuminated Primacy (Hanar government) -6
No. of Votes: 1
[X] Sovereign/Nazara -5
No. of Votes: 1
[X] Harbinger -3
No. of Votes: 1
[X] Various news reports about the batarian attack. (Asari, Turian, etc.) -2
No. of Votes: 1
[X] As of yet unnamed Turian Patriarch -1
No. of Votes: 1
[X] Leviathans -1
No. of Votes: 1
[X] The Thorian -1
No. of Votes: 1
[X] Human ambassador to the council -1
No. of Votes: 1
[X] Liara -1
No. of Votes: 1
[X] high ranking systems alliance officer (maybe one who wasn't our/our tech's biggest fan for some reason?) -1
No. of Votes: 1
[X] Highest echelons of turian government -1
No. of Votes: 1
[X] Batarian High Command -1
No. of Votes: 1
Total No. of Voters: 41
prince84
In central Dogma flirting with Lilith.
- Location
- The Madness Place
"This is Rebecca Shepard to all PI personnel. We have been attacked by an unknown group with technology in advance of our own. I say this will NOT stand. No one and I mean NO ONE gets better toys than the boys and girls under my command. I.... WILL.... FIX..... THIS!"
"That is all. Have a good day and remember all crimes against the laws of physics must be performed in the assigned lab space so we can direct it to our fun and betterment."
"That is all. Have a good day and remember all crimes against the laws of physics must be performed in the assigned lab space so we can direct it to our fun and betterment."
[X] STG-SPECTRE Joint Report concerning Rebecca Shepard
[X] Minor details
-[X] All enemy tech to be placed in an isolated sealed vault with full radiological, EM shielding and whatever else we can think of until it can be verified as safe.
-[X] Our drones are to put towards search and rescue while our forces conduct a sweep of our facility, Afterwards any spare staff are asked to aid the planetary government.
-[X] Any serviceable building will be used for humanitarian aid unless it's a critical security risk.
-[X] Personally provide remote assistance to the recovery efforts however possible.
-[X] Once security and S&R efforts are complete, secure salvage rights and concentrate on salvage of eezo cores. We're going to need a lot of eezo soon, and most of the battlefield salvage is ours by right of conquest.
-[X] Divert our VI development company to hack what remains of the Sol invasion fleet's computers, and whatever other resources it takes (even RP from next quarter if necessary) to find out how the hell the Batarians managed to bypass Arcturus and invade Sol. This is a huge priority!
[X] Minor details
-[X] All enemy tech to be placed in an isolated sealed vault with full radiological, EM shielding and whatever else we can think of until it can be verified as safe.
-[X] Our drones are to put towards search and rescue while our forces conduct a sweep of our facility, Afterwards any spare staff are asked to aid the planetary government.
-[X] Any serviceable building will be used for humanitarian aid unless it's a critical security risk.
-[X] Personally provide remote assistance to the recovery efforts however possible.
-[X] Once security and S&R efforts are complete, secure salvage rights and concentrate on salvage of eezo cores. We're going to need a lot of eezo soon, and most of the battlefield salvage is ours by right of conquest.
-[X] Divert our VI development company to hack what remains of the Sol invasion fleet's computers, and whatever other resources it takes (even RP from next quarter if necessary) to find out how the hell the Batarians managed to bypass Arcturus and invade Sol. This is a huge priority!
[X] STG-SPECTRE Joint Report concerning Rebecca Shepard
[X] Minor details
-[X] All enemy tech to be placed in an isolated sealed vault with full radiological, EM shielding and whatever else we can think of until it can be verified as safe.
-[X] Our drones are to put towards search and rescue while our forces conduct a sweep of our facility, Afterwards any spare staff are asked to aid the planetary government.
-[X] Any serviceable building will be used for humanitarian aid unless it's a critical security risk.
-[X] Personally provide remote assistance to the recovery efforts however possible.
-[X] Once security and S&R efforts are complete, secure salvage rights and concentrate on salvage of eezo cores. We're going to need a lot of eezo soon, and most of the battlefield salvage is ours by right of conquest.
-[X] Divert our VI development company to hack what remains of the Sol invasion fleet's computers, and whatever other resources it takes (even RP from next quarter if necessary) to find out how the hell the Batarians managed to bypass Arcturus and invade Sol. This is a huge priority!
[X] Minor details
-[X] All enemy tech to be placed in an isolated sealed vault with full radiological, EM shielding and whatever else we can think of until it can be verified as safe.
-[X] Our drones are to put towards search and rescue while our forces conduct a sweep of our facility, Afterwards any spare staff are asked to aid the planetary government.
-[X] Any serviceable building will be used for humanitarian aid unless it's a critical security risk.
-[X] Personally provide remote assistance to the recovery efforts however possible.
-[X] Once security and S&R efforts are complete, secure salvage rights and concentrate on salvage of eezo cores. We're going to need a lot of eezo soon, and most of the battlefield salvage is ours by right of conquest.
-[X] Divert our VI development company to hack what remains of the Sol invasion fleet's computers, and whatever other resources it takes (even RP from next quarter if necessary) to find out how the hell the Batarians managed to bypass Arcturus and invade Sol. This is a huge priority!
Mandabar
Waifu of choice is Rem. Give that girl some hugs!
- Location
- Florida, USA [Yes. Florida *FacePalm*]
I never knew how much I needed this quest till I read it. Bravo for keeping it going as QM's fall in battle. Quite liking Hoyr's style as the third QM as well. Just binging thru it all tonight, really enjoyed Stark!Sheppard!
A question I had about the ISAR though.
Was it just a mechanics change/value change from earlier in the quest not covered in the story posts?
I guess it would make it easy to buy our stuff and have authorized fabricators make the equipment w/o releasing the actual details on HOW to make it (as well as the BlackBoxing inherent in the finished product to prevent backwards engineering). Though with the latest updates it seems everyone copied our stuff anyways.
That.... or collectors. I mean arc reactors I can understand with the released vague patent and Liara's helpful mistakes (Or prothean similarities?). But the laser/particle beams? Hmmm. That would mean Reapers already. I was thinking Virtual Aliens or Geth perhaps. Even had a moment of shock thinking the 'Dreadnought' was the Reaper hitting here instead of Elysium... which we need to up defense on actually thinking of.
Now to read more of the thread and see if there is a plan. Thanks for putting up that banner!
Edit: I guess I'll go with this, though the vote tally is... Huh weird.
[X] STG-SPECTRE Joint Report concerning Rebecca Shepard
[X] Minor details
-[X] All enemy tech to be placed in an isolated sealed vault with full radiological, EM shielding and whatever else we can think of until it can be verified as safe.
-[X] Our drones are to put towards search and rescue while our forces conduct a sweep of our facility, Afterwards any spare staff are asked to aid the planetary government.
-[X] Any serviceable building will be used for humanitarian aid unless it's a critical security risk.
-[X] Personally provide remote assistance to the recovery efforts however possible.
-[X] Once security and S&R efforts are complete, secure salvage rights and concentrate on salvage of eezo cores. We're going to need a lot of eezo soon, and most of the battlefield salvage is ours by right of conquest.
-[X] Divert our VI development company to hack what remains of the Sol invasion fleet's computers, and whatever other resources it takes (even RP from next quarter if necessary) to find out how the hell the Batarians managed to bypass Arcturus and invade Sol. This is a huge priority!
A question I had about the ISAR though.
Hmm... How odd, after all this time I would've thought we would be making the fullscale ISAR by now and not the slapdash prototype proof-of-concept one we made early on.
It's quite a difference between 150 Gigawatts and 40 Terrawatts (40,000 Gigawatts). Currently the ISAR is running at only 0.375% of its designed efficiency.
Was it just a mechanics change/value change from earlier in the quest not covered in the story posts?
And then this next story post seems to show we have the 40TW ISAR too... So did we decide to keep producing the inefficent (in size, same as the 40tw version) ISARs? Or do we just have the ability to do em variable? *Shrug*
Hah I love this. Another company jumping on our modular designed suit and making their own modules. Yay!
.... We need better investigators. Might require omniscience though.
What is FRM anyways? Fabrication Rights Management I guess? I thought it had something to do with blackboxing for awhile.
I guess it would make it easy to buy our stuff and have authorized fabricators make the equipment w/o releasing the actual details on HOW to make it (as well as the BlackBoxing inherent in the finished product to prevent backwards engineering). Though with the latest updates it seems everyone copied our stuff anyways.
That.... or collectors. I mean arc reactors I can understand with the released vague patent and Liara's helpful mistakes (Or prothean similarities?). But the laser/particle beams? Hmmm. That would mean Reapers already. I was thinking Virtual Aliens or Geth perhaps. Even had a moment of shock thinking the 'Dreadnought' was the Reaper hitting here instead of Elysium... which we need to up defense on actually thinking of.
Huh, so it seems a negative actually to have gone with alliance licensing for the PMC. It cost more than the Citadel license, and puts us at their mercy. And somehow involves the main company into being forced to provide equip too? Huh
Now to read more of the thread and see if there is a plan. Thanks for putting up that banner!
Edit: I guess I'll go with this, though the vote tally is... Huh weird.
[X] STG-SPECTRE Joint Report concerning Rebecca Shepard
[X] Minor details
-[X] All enemy tech to be placed in an isolated sealed vault with full radiological, EM shielding and whatever else we can think of until it can be verified as safe.
-[X] Our drones are to put towards search and rescue while our forces conduct a sweep of our facility, Afterwards any spare staff are asked to aid the planetary government.
-[X] Any serviceable building will be used for humanitarian aid unless it's a critical security risk.
-[X] Personally provide remote assistance to the recovery efforts however possible.
-[X] Once security and S&R efforts are complete, secure salvage rights and concentrate on salvage of eezo cores. We're going to need a lot of eezo soon, and most of the battlefield salvage is ours by right of conquest.
-[X] Divert our VI development company to hack what remains of the Sol invasion fleet's computers, and whatever other resources it takes (even RP from next quarter if necessary) to find out how the hell the Batarians managed to bypass Arcturus and invade Sol. This is a huge priority!
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So really just adding to the current winning vote.
It is not AI controlled but strictly VI controlled (why it needs swarm networking) add to that the fact that the primary ship is completely unable to self replicate, it can process material and build drones and com buoys, these things are not small and they can work like carriers, nor will they land on planets, those will just be scaned.
For mining it is locked into using asteroids, dwarf planets and things like that and maintenance is handled when the ships come back from surveying a system or two and most of the stuff is left behind as defensive equipment and markers for stuff the owner wants (in space) or other things of importance like garden worlds, terra-formable worlds, mass relays and gas giants, it also sends back a message when it finds any of those things especially any active yet unregistered as active relays which it will park itself 'near' and build up a good swarm of combat capable drones and if it's a new species coming through it will send a first contact package (it will also need a ship database in this case for any new species).
Hope that takes care of most of your concerns.
Also we are using standard level construction tech aren't we, lets develop something better like those things in PA, TA or SupCom that use nano-machines to build things fast, mostly so that retooling is a thing of the past (that would be like factory V/VI level though).
Another thing to look into is an energy to matter device, thanks to the AR we have access to nigh unlimited amounts of energy.
It is not AI controlled but strictly VI controlled (why it needs swarm networking) add to that the fact that the primary ship is completely unable to self replicate, it can process material and build drones and com buoys, these things are not small and they can work like carriers, nor will they land on planets, those will just be scaned.
For mining it is locked into using asteroids, dwarf planets and things like that and maintenance is handled when the ships come back from surveying a system or two and most of the stuff is left behind as defensive equipment and markers for stuff the owner wants (in space) or other things of importance like garden worlds, terra-formable worlds, mass relays and gas giants, it also sends back a message when it finds any of those things especially any active yet unregistered as active relays which it will park itself 'near' and build up a good swarm of combat capable drones and if it's a new species coming through it will send a first contact package (it will also need a ship database in this case for any new species).
Hope that takes care of most of your concerns.
Also we are using standard level construction tech aren't we, lets develop something better like those things in PA, TA or SupCom that use nano-machines to build things fast, mostly so that retooling is a thing of the past (that would be like factory V/VI level though).
Another thing to look into is an energy to matter device, thanks to the AR we have access to nigh unlimited amounts of energy.
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IIRC it's just that one particle ISAR that is space inefficient. All the others have the proper power density. As for why we kept building 150GW ISARs... well because 40TW is an absurd number. For example during 2010 the entirety of humanity used 16TW. Even if you assume the current trend (56% increase every 30 years) holds then by 2170 Earth's power usage is only at 171TW so a single 40TW reactor would supply 23.3% of that. Even the futuristic Space!Grid wouldn't be able to handle a quarter of Earths' power coming from one location. Not to mention how vulnerable that much power coming from one reactor would make the grid.
Eh. The STG has been doing this since at least 500BCE (~2,670 years). Creating flawless backstops is going to be a piece of cake for them. Especially since Mordin was never actually a part of the STG, just a consultant:
You've got it right. FRM Licenses means giving out the instructions needed for another company to fabricate copies of a product despite it having Blackboxing/FRM protection.
The last bit has nothing to do with the PMC license but instead the simple fact that PI is, among other things, a weapons company based out of Alliance space. Think of it like how back in WWII lots of factories, most notably car factories, were made to start producing military equipment for the government.
Incidentally I view being required to take Alliance contracts as a semi-good thing. It guarantees jobs for ParSec, is a good opportunity to make a load of cash, furthers our goals of defending the Alliance*, shows off ParSec's capable to potential post-war clients, and gives us more rep with the Alliance for future dealings.
*No way the Alliance parliament would allow a foreight (IE: Citadel registered) PMC to take on key military contracts.
Huh, maybe we should try developing the quantum energy/matter transmission from those games as well.
Keep in mind that PI doesn't even have miniaturized energy weapons yet; we went for the ship-scale gigawatt-range ones first. That mech was literally using tech that we haven't even developed yet, which is one of the reasons we can be reasonably assured that it's not Batarian, but something that's controlling the Hegemony somehow (OoC we know it has to be Indoctrination, but whether it's the Leviathan of Dis, Sovereign, Harbinger through the Collectors, or the actual Leviathans is yet to be seen).
Hell, even one of the medium-sized 150 GW reactors can supply enough power for 10-15 million people; that's pretty much as big as any city can reasonably get on a colony world.
Just this quarter we contacted the Hanar and inquired as to their interest in us selling them frigates as part of their fleet overhaul. They were quite interested:
As for Legionaries and Gladii, well they are both contracted such that it's unlikely we could sell them to foreign nation's militaries. Plus we have to consider the various restrictions on exporting military technology as well as the PR effects, for example selling advanced weapons to the Turians would not go over well with a lot of people.
- Location
- Leeds
Its mostly a supply bottleneck. We'd be happy to sell Pydnas to the Asari and Turians by the dozen however, we can't make them fast enough. As a human company we benefit most from having a strong human presence in the galaxy so we prioritise.
UberJJK mentioned the hanar deal, what he forgot to mention was that that offer was reliant on the Hanar providing the production to make the Pydnas.
Its an offer I think we'd consider again for other species however we chose to target the Hanar for a couple of reasons; their militarisation might just screw them over if not done right, we offer cheap powerful frigates which give them a security blanket against over or under mobilisation.
Additionally we are revered by the Hanar and they do not have an significant existing fleet, there would be chaos if the Asari, Turians or Salarians contracted a company from another nation to build them a new fleet, security concerns, economic impacts there is a long list of reasons that we'll see knockoff Pydnas from other nations rather than see them contacting us. The Hanar don't have those issues.
I didn't mention that because it's not true. The offer was based off our predicted excess production capacity. With the planned increases in production we'd easily be able to afford 180 Zama per year.
The Hanar offered us the use of their shipyards, something which came as a complete and utter surprise, so we can start production in the next quarter or two rather then rating. As it says in the segment I quoted.
I'm not even sure how well it would work anyway. Most of our more advanced tech uses scientific and manufacturing concepts that are completely foreign to the rest of the galaxy, right down to the basic materials science that our advanced ceramics and Superalloys techs use. Any factory that the Hanar would want to lend to us would have to be retooled on such a basic level that we may be better off demolishing the building and starting from scratch. This sort of gets back to the reason we have to pay a premium for our factories in comparison with every other manufacturers': we do it so our factories can be agile enough that we don't have to retool every time Revy turns the laws of physics on their head.
- Location
- Ontario
Thanks for clearing that up.
I find it funny that we just built a lot of factory's but we still don't have enough.
I find it funny that we just built a lot of factory's but we still don't have enough.
Which is part of my resoning for looking into making our factories better.
- Location
- Ontario
How would that cause backlash?
And wound it not help in the long run to have all the citadel members be using PI technology when the Reapers show up. Also if we sell to them we would have a bigger market and make more money, witch in turn would let us increase production to sell even more. The only reason I can see to not want to sell to the Turians, Asari and Salarians is because we want to have Humans to be the top military power in the galaxy. Witch would make no sense because Revy wants to improves everyone's life's not just the SA.
While most if this is true, right now we can't get legal permission to sell our best tech outside of the SA. There's a good reason for that too: it has only been 18 years since the First Contact War. Humanity is still in a fragile place in the galaxy: very small compared to the big players like the Batarians and the Council species, and the only real edges they have are the reparations the Council is paying, the eezo cache on Mars, and now PI's advanced technology. The SA won't give up one of the cornerstones of their foreign policy without expecting large concessions in return.
- Location
- Ontario
Is there anyway to get around that? And what can they do to us if we do sell to other powers? It just seems that the SA are more limiting then helpful.