Shepard Quest Mk VI, Technological Revolution

....We could leverage 'aggressive anti-piracy action that has caused an evident drop in piracy' as SAs reason for getting on the Council.

After all, if the SA is going to Batarian space, it's likely that pirates and warlords who are willing to get hired will be hired and any pirate ship attempting to cut SAs supply line will be dealt with via Mass Driver.

Or 'accidently stumbling' across said pirate bases and warlords and failing at diplomancy.
 
....We could leverage 'aggressive anti-piracy action that has caused an evident drop in piracy' as SAs reason for getting on the Council.

After all, if the SA is going to Batarian space, it's likely that pirates and warlords who are willing to get hired will be hired and any pirate ship attempting to cut SAs supply line will be dealt with via Mass Driver.

Or 'accidently stumbling' across said pirate bases and warlords and failing at diplomancy.
What do we need to do to get humanity on the council?
With the rate of humanity technological advancement, it only a matter of time that the council invites us to become a member.
They can not afford not to
 
They can not afford not to

They can actually. And they won't invite humanity on board either.

However, if humanity ends up with a fleet more powerful than the Turian Hierarchy's (if only because our Pyndae eat enemy ships by the truckload) we can fairly easily make the argument that we should be on the Council, and that if we are we might just shove some interesting theories/products to our fellow Council members as a matter of good faith.
 
Partially agreed, but Asari, whose "Leaders" tried to maintain dominance through subterfuge, might be displeased (in the least)...

..and they might argue that such "violent tendencies" Batarians did was only because SA forced then and upset the 'status quo'.
 
And I'm worried that some of them might be willing to employ ..... questionable methods (like siding with Collectors or attempting to study Reaper corps "Leviathan of Dis")
 
What do we need to do to get humanity on the council?
With the rate of humanity technological advancement, it only a matter of time that the council invites us to become a member.
They can not afford not to

You have to pull off something, technically anything, that benefits Council Space heavily as a whole.

The Volus are mad in ME1 cause they have been running the economic system of the Turians, the Council as well as their own for a good couple hundred years or more and their contribution is seemingly ignored in favor of getting the SA, who has only been part of the Council Space for less than 20 years.

Some fans reackon it might be the fact that the Volus rely on the Turians for peacekeeping and heavy hitters, preffering to go with frigate class bombers for anti fort/bunker tactics rather than straight up warships that slug it out in space.

Part of being a Council Seat Member is 'possessing the ability to defend both their own space as well as Council Space'.

It's why if you decide to save the Council they let Anderson/Udina stand next them in ME2 and ME3, the Council had no choice but to let the SA have a Council Seat after the SA was willing to sacrifice a third/quarter of three fleets in defense of the Citadel and the Council.

If you go Renegrade, SA gets a seat via heavy handed means and gunboat diplomancy in ME2, while replacing the other Council members with 'voted in' humans, who get replaced in ME3.
 
There only so much they can be displeased with when mankind takes their place as the most technologically advanced race
And one problem for this might be Revy's "flawless black-boxing".
— Council species don't want to be dependant on humanity (particularly Miss Rebecca 'Revy' Shepard) and this "security device" prevents them from reliably reverse-engineering all that tech in order to "trump humanity". +
Part of being a Council Seat Member is 'possessing the ability to defend both their own space as well as Council Space'.
SA with correct upgrades more than qualifies, which terrifies other species (especially when only 3% humanity volunteers, imagine if Humans are pissed enough to "force recruits" ... "sleeping, angry dragon" is apt metaphor in their eyes)
 
And one problem for this might be Revy's "flawless black-boxing".
— Council species don't want to be dependant on humanity (particularly Miss Rebecca 'Revy' Shepard) and this "security device" prevents them from reliably reverse-engineering all that tech in order to "trump humanity". +

SA with correct upgrades more than qualifies, which terrifies other species (especially when only 3% humanity volunteers, imagine if Humans are pissed enough to "force recruits" ... "sleeping, angry dragon" is apt metaphor in their eyes)

SA -already- qualifies in ME1, it's pulling off something suitably beneficial to Council Space that they need.

If you only fulfil 1 out of the 2, you don't get a Seat.
 
Partially agreed, but Asari, whose "Leaders" tried to maintain dominance through subterfuge, might be displeased (in the least)...

..and they might argue that such "violent tendencies" Batarians did was only because SA forced then and upset the 'status quo'.
The Asari would definitely not do this.

For all my posturing about "pro-Batarian biases", keep in mind that the Batarians have been the poster children for violent psychopathic outsiders for almost 2,000 years by the point that humanity enters the galactic community. Their slave-owning religion and social structure, their insistence that every other race is inferior to them because only they possess four eyes, their continued state sponsorship of terrorists and pirates, and their extremely insular society with state-controlled media to prevent them from ever changing internally make them the sort of petty evil empire that everyone loves to hate, but isn't quite ready to commit to a massive war to wipe off the map, compared to say the Krogan or the Geth. There's a reason I constantly compare them to RL North Korea.

The point is that all of this history is going to be personally relevant to every member of the Asari voting public. The Salarians might be so short-sighted as to think the SA was the cause of the Batarians' evil ways (probably not; they're not idiots), but the Asari Matriarchs, the ones really in charge of the Asari Republics, have all been around for hundreds of years; some are even old enough to remember the Krogan Rebellions in the eighth century CE. Every one of them is going to remember a personal deal they've had with the Batarians, seen the four-eyed aliens staring at them with contempt mixed with desire. Many of them will have family, mothers, sisters, daughters, grandchildren, who are currently enslaved behind the void curtain of the Batarian Hegemony, doomed to serve Batarian masters for hundreds of years, possibly be bred to serve for generations.

The point of an accusation of "pro-Batarian bias" is that literally everyone will know it's bullshit, just like the Batarians' claim of using secondary Relays to make an end-run around Arcturus. It will, however, open most of the current leadership to charges of being bribed or otherwise coerced into silence, as that's really the only reason to ignore the Batarian Hegemony this time, when they have finally gone way, way too far, and are openly invading other species' homeworlds in order to enslave billions using blatantly illegal and highly dangerous means.
 
The Asari would definitely not do this.

For all my posturing about "pro-Batarian biases", keep in mind that the Batarians have been the poster children for violent psychopathic outsiders for almost 2,000 years by the point that humanity enters the galactic community. Their slave-owning religion and social structure, their insistence that every other race is inferior to them because only they possess four eyes, their continued state sponsorship of terrorists and pirates, and their extremely insular society with state-controlled media to prevent them from ever changing internally make them the sort of petty evil empire that everyone loves to hate, but isn't quite ready to commit to a massive war to wipe off the map, compared to say the Krogan or the Geth. There's a reason I constantly compare them to RL North Korea.

The point is that all of this history is going to be personally relevant to every member of the Asari voting public. The Salarians might be so short-sighted as to think the SA was the cause of the Batarians' evil ways (probably not; they're not idiots), but the Asari Matriarchs, the ones really in charge of the Asari Republics, have all been around for hundreds of years; some are even old enough to remember the Krogan Rebellions in the eighth century CE. Every one of them is going to remember a personal deal they've had with the Batarians, seen the four-eyed aliens staring at them with contempt mixed with desire. Many of them will have family, mothers, sisters, daughters, grandchildren, who are currently enslaved behind the void curtain of the Batarian Hegemony, doomed to serve Batarian masters for hundreds of years, possibly be bred to serve for generations.

The point of an accusation of "pro-Batarian bias" is that literally everyone will know it's bullshit, just like the Batarians' claim of using secondary Relays to make an end-run around Arcturus. It will, however, open most of the current leadership to charges of being bribed or otherwise coerced into silence, as that's really the only reason to ignore the Batarian Hegemony this time, when they have finally gone way, way too far, and are openly invading other species' homeworlds in order to enslave billions using blatantly illegal and highly dangerous means.
Should we expect more open support from the Asari because of this?
Because, although I believe that you are right, I still do not think that the Asari will go to war in support of the System alliance.
The Asari might offer moral support and some military aid but little else
Although they hate batarians, the system alliance is becoming a threat to the asari's political power and especially their technological power.
Mankind at our current rate of technological advancement will surpass the Asari at some point
It is just a matter of time and some Asari must realize this
And thus they might try to take actions that will limit the system alliance influence while leaving the batarians to rot and die
 
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Should we expect more open support from the Asari because of this?
Because, although I believe that you are right, I still do not think that the Asari will go to war in support of the System alliance.
The Asari might offer moral support and some military aid but little else
Although they hate batarians, the system alliance is becoming a threat to the asari's political power and especially their technological power.
Mankind at our current rate of technological advancement will surpass the Asari at some point
It is just a matter of time and some Asari must realize this
And thus they might try to take actions that will limit the system alliance influence while leaving the batarians to rot and die
It really depends on a lot of factors that we're not privy to.

Right now the Batarians are basically Nazi Germany in the late 1930s. They've spent the last few years ignoring or openly defying arms treaties, whipping their populace into a jingoistic furor over perceived slights against them, and forging alliances with other outsiders (members of the Terminus, the Leviathan of Dis, maybe Sovereign). Now they've invaded a sovereign power that is supposed to be allied with a number of other advanced nations, using means outrageous, illegal, and immoral. But, as with Germany in the 1930s, it remains to be seen whether or not the Systems Alliance is Czechoslovakia, whom the rest of the world seemed happy to leave to its own fate in order to avoid a larger war, or Poland, whom everyone recognized was the first domino in an endless cascade of conquest by an insatiable power.

My thoughts are that it's going to break more towards the later view, not least because of Revy's own work towards changing humanity's image from strange and aggressive pink apes, who bloodied the Council's enforcers the very year they were introduced to the galactic community, to a race of trodden-upon underdogs who have a tragic history of being aggressively attacked all the time, first by the Turians by mistake, then by the "pirates" opportunistically as the poor guys were trying to carve out a place in the galaxy, and now by the Batarians in a bid to start a Galactic War. At this point humanity are basically Space Jews, and I for one intend to milk that opinion as hard as possible from now on. :)

It helps that the galaxy hasn't had a new major war in nearly 300 years, so many people are itching for a conflict to sink their teeth into. Military spending is up galaxy-wide, technology is being revolutionized, people are tense, and in the face of all that the Batarians decided to kick over a beehive.

My predictions:
  • The Turian Hierarchy, who have always hated the Batarians and their lawbreaking ways, will declare war immediately, looking to save face with the humans, and try to count this as making up for the First Contact War (which it might very well do if they strike hard enough).
  • The Salarian Union will clam up and say nothing substantive for 3-6 months, and then do a massive alpha strike that cripples the Hegemony as best as they can before declaring war, as that's how they apparently like to fight all their wars according to the wiki.
  • The Asari are the least likely to act as a single bloc, and we'll probably see a range of responses from them, likely divided by age cohort. The younger Maiden-led mercenary groups will probably ally with the humans immediately, while the Matriarchs and older politicians will sit back and try to use the confusion to consolidate more power, all the while acting like they are supporting the war effort the whole time, with the Matrons splitting between the two depending on how many family members they have locked away behind the Hegemony's void curtain.
 
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it remains to be seen whether or not the Systems Alliance is Czechoslovakia, whom the rest of the world seemed happy to leave to its own fate in order to avoid a larger war, or Poland, whom everyone recognized was the first domino in an endless cascade of conquest by an insatiable power.
Theres just two problems in your argument. This 1930s Czechoslovakia or Poland is developing 21st century weapons and is a comparable military power even before those. And Germany has nukes.
We're probably favoured to win this war as far as observers are concerned just the question is what can those observers do to ensure that both sides aren't reduced to a radioactive wasteland in the process.
 
The Turian Hierarchy, who have always hated the Batarians and their lawbreaking ways, will declare war immediately, looking to save face with the humans, and try to count this as making up for the First Contact War (which it might very well do if they strike hard enough).

Unlikely. I'd sooner expect that the Turian Hierarchy/Councillor talks with the System's Alliance representatives and offers a deal that basically boils down to 'we'll let you operate and field your forces out of Hierarchy space and will have priority over purely civilian slipways for repairs, but not for free. If you can give the impression of being hard pressed by the Batarian Hegemony for three months or so we can convince our public that we really need to do something about this bout of aggression from the batarians.'

The Salarian Union will clam up and say nothing substantive for 3-6 months, and then do a massive alpha strike that cripples the Hegemony as best as they can before declaring war, as that's how they apparently like to fight all their wars according to the wiki.

The Salarian Union is going to try and play every side against eachother with shitloads of black operations in the alleyways of every world they can reach to bleed both the Batarians Hegemony and the Systems Alliance while running off with as much tech as they can. If one side or another starts clearly winning despite interference by the STG they'll 'hand over' reports that say they've been supporting the winning side all along.
 
I'm not sure the Turians really need to convince the public of anything.
If I recall correctly, they just need to get enough primarchs to agree to it...
Well, ok, they have to convince the "public" to the point that their nuttier commanders don't decide that disobeying orders is worth it to blow up humans instead of Batarians, but that's about it.
Do remember, even the 'civilian' Turians are basically still military (well, reservists or children). Their government is the military. Their civil administration is the military, their emergency services are the military, and so on, and so forth, etc. They consider obeying orders to be a really big deal, to be done only when the superior is clearly screwing up horribly in a way that's going to screw over more than just the ones he's giving the orders to, or something to that effect.

In other words, it wouldn't take three months. In fact, unless the turians are basically all Saren, it wouldn't even need doing, exactly.
 
The Primarchs still need to be able to convince the not-immediately-serving public as well as their actually serving soldiers that interfering in this war is a good idea or necessary, especially since the Systems Alliance is liable to give a good showing. Otherwise you get crap for morale, a lack of forethought and initiative and a home front actively opposing the government's actions.

That the Hierarchy is effectively a military dictatorship doesn't mean that they don't have to take the homefront in mind. Quite the opposite, given the intensely meritocratic underlying principles of the Hierarchy. If the Primarchs give the impression of being incompetent by jumping into a foreign war with no preparation and without wondering if it was necessary they'd be lucky to only be removed from their positions.

Of course, that doesn't mean that the Hierarchy can't pick sides by telling off the Hegemony when it comes too close to human ships in Hierarchy territory, letting foreign military ships of one side resupply and repair within their borders while denying another's and generally just maliciously complying with paperwork and protocol requirements whenever the Hegemony wants anything done by the Hierarchy while the Systems Alliance just gets told 'we'll handle the paperwork on the go.'

Of course, this changes the moment one turian ship or world gets attacked by the Hegemony, or the Primarchs have had some time to shape the opinion of the general public.
 
The Batarians, a long term source of pirates, slavers and outlaws, just declared a war of aggression on a major power by possibly violating galactic law. This is quite possibly the best time for the Turian Hierarchy to declare war on them and remove a long-time thorn from their side. Besides, fighting alongside the System Alliance can also help repair their damaged relationship with humanity and public image hit from the First Contact War as well as provide valuable intel on the capabilities of the upgraded SA military.
 
They consider obeying orders to be a really big deal, to be done only when the superior is clearly screwing up horribly in a way that's going to screw over more than just the ones he's giving the orders to, or something to that effect.
There was a fanfic that said it somewhere.

For the turians, "I was only following orders" isn't an excuse, it's a creed and the very cornerstone of the foundation of their way of life. Disobeying any order at all is infinitely worse than obeying a bad one.

If your commander orders you to waste those civilian protesters, you will gun the motherfuckers down or you will be shunned for the rest of your life.
 
The Batarians, a long term source of pirates, slavers and outlaws, just declared a war of aggression on a major power by possibly violating galactic law. This is quite possibly the best time for the Turian Hierarchy to declare war on them and remove a long-time thorn from their side. Besides, fighting alongside the System Alliance can also help repair their damaged relationship with humanity and public image hit from the First Contact War as well as provide valuable intel on the capabilities of the upgraded SA military.

Yes.

However, the average member of the Turian Hierarchy isn't all that fond of humanity and has other things on their mind. And there's also the fact that this assault took everyone by surprise, the Hierarchy will be able to more effectively support the Systems Alliance if it can shuffle its forces around first. The delay is as much logistical as it's political.
 
I think you guys might be missing just how disruptive and generally disliked the Batarians are. From Batarian History

Despite being welcomed into the galactic community, batarian aggression provoked several crises in galactic relations over the years. Sometime around 1785 CE, a batarian fleet bombarded the salarian colony world of Mannovai; in 1913, the Batarian Hegemony annexed the independent asari colony of Esan; and in 2115, Citadel forces skirmished with batarian forces on the planet Enael.

Everyone hates the Hegemony, and everyone has a "The Batarians killed my X" story. The galactic community has been wanting to put the hammer down on the Hegemony for centuries; the factors staying its hand are the threat of the Terminus coming down on the Batarians' side and the cost of the war itself.

With this move, however, the Batarians have negated both of those reasons. On one hand, the Terminus are not going to be any happier about the Batarians deploying WMDs offensively then the Citadel is, meaning that the Hegemony just lost a great deal of support from that side. In the other, humanity is going to be the tip of the spear for this campaign, using cheap drones and laser frigates on the front lines, so cost won't be nearly so much of a problem.

What the Citadel doesn't want is for this war to take a significant amount of time. The longer things play out, the higher the chance that the Hegemony will do something like deploy another WMD, or convince the Terminus that the Citadel races refusing to come to a member state's aid means they are weak and ripe for conquest. The best interests of the Citadel lie in ensuring this war is over fast, and in an overwhelming defeat of the Batarians, to keep this kind of thing from even being contemplated by another species.
 
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The Varren Pit
Part 2​

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Given the amount of very smart people Revy employed and her insane work schedule, it was understandable that the Varren Pit could be kept hidden from her for years. Given how much smarter Revy was than anyone else, combined with the peak human treatments, personalised VI and her advanced neural interface that let her monitor the entire P.I. complex in Landing, it was inevitable that she would find it.

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It was during one of those treatments, ghosting through the security cameras and systems (being recognised all the time as the Revy Shepard was great of course, but sometimes you needed to lurk *bzzt* er, people-watch - thank you CASIE) that she spotted Conrad angrily whispering into his omnitool. Oddity number one. He was never angry. Disappointed, sure, especially when she had to move on to drop her science upon the next group, but not like this. Curiosity overtook her and she switched on the camera's microphone.

"...repeatedly told you that bipedal AI mechs are a recipe for disaster - Com: Attach ShepardYMIRBoom1.vid, GethFullHistory.db, Com: End - and I will keep posting this until you get it!" *sigh* "Com: Post Varrenpit." Oddity number two: The message was encrypted (open-source, not the in-house solution, weird) and being sent along a hidden port, until she almost lost track of it in the research cluster. Telling Cortana to listen for omnitool message alerts in the labs in the next minute and take pictures of anyone checking them, she focused until responses with the same encryption came flooding back out hundreds of times over. It was a little disappointing that they weren't trusting her clearly superior implementation. If her employees thought that she was such a poor engineer that she'd leave an exploitable backdoor in any of her products, she'd send the Arc Reactor plans to the Batarians.

Oddity three: They weren't just going to the labs, but all over the campus. Some to the security complex, some to the Factories, some even to the extranet. Cortana chose that moment to drop 341 matches in her inbox. Looking over it revealed a comprehensive spread of all of P.I.'s employees, with numbers of past accesses using the same port highest around a few of the laboratories. What the- Gaver Dor was part of this!

She was pretty sure she knew what was going on - scuttlebutt and gossip grew like a fungus anywhere you had humans and a network - and yet could not help feeling a little stir of indignation. They were talking science, and they hadn't invited her! Was she really so unapproachable as a boss? Well... given her unbelievable fame, wealth and smarts, quite probably. (She should implement an internal bulletin board sometime.)

It was time for some advanced lurking.

*bzzt*
Dammit, let me have that one. 'CASIE, off.'

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ZenithaRed [metamaterials] Post count: 1

Hiya, Conrad introduced me. New hire, so you wouldn't have seen me round, but I have some experience in metamaterials and PI superalloys, and I think can weigh in on the whole mecha thing. I've even flown in a Legionary!

ScienceEnergy [mass effect fields] Post count: 7191

It's like watching a baby toddle across a firing range. *grabs popcorn*

VernierVerner [particle physics] Post count: 12006

Welcome to the thread, Zenitha!

TruthMatters [xenobiology] Post count: 2095

Greetings. Hopeful of raising standard of discussion. Really need economist or military strategist though.

Erin P. Kol [biotics][Revy fanclub][star poster] Post count: 170069

Allah, protect her.

Ymir [software][star poster] Post count: 189033

*sigh* I'm going to need citations before I even listen to you.

Miya2 [arc reactors] Post count: 1032

Yeah, you almost have to be a 99.9th percentile genius to post here. Sometimes it's difficult to keep up, but it's so interesting.

Hurtmann [ParSec] Post count: 442

We've gone over this how many times? It's self-evident humans aren't going to be entirely replaced in the battlefield paradigm anytime soon, not least for 'sapient-in-the-middle' reasons.

DaBiggest [terraforming] Post count: 54

With irritation: did you forget I was here, as well as the drone swarm that has been doing so well for ParSec? You should know better. Polite greeting: Welcome.

SalmonChanted [H.R.][moderator] Post count: 952

I don't recall any new hires. And why would someone off the superalloys team ever have the chance to fly in a Legionary?

Oops. That was the problem with being a naturally honest person - terrible at lying. Her inappropriately-skilled persona blundering in to troll in just the right way was being countered by the smart (and cautious) people she'd hired. Curse her genius!

They were still waiting for an answer and they were suspicious. The introduction was genuine enough (note: Conrad needed a refresher on social engineering and network security), but it might kill the community if she unmasked. Should she? Shouldn't she?

She really wanted to get in on this, though. Browsing through was like peeking under a rock and finding an anthill where every PI product and service was ripped apart, recombined and repurposed to make the company stronger. It was actually a little creepy how well they could predict her whims, even ones she hadn't thought of yet. Imagine how well they could do when a true expert in everything joined in.

When she put it like that, it was no choice at all. She sent a command to Cortana to change one small thing in her settings.

ZenithaRed [P.I. founder] Post count: 2

You caught me. Interesting place you've got here.

Erin P. Kol [biotics][Revy fanclub][star poster] Post count: 170070

No. Way.

Ymir [software][star poster] Post count: 189034

I don't believe you. The real Revy would never cave after just a bit of pressure.

ZenithaRed [P.I. founder] Post count: 3

Maybe I wanted to be nice and honest. But by all means, keep digging.

Miya2 [arc reactors] Post count: 1033

If a girl has the brass to claim to be Revy herself in Pedant Central, she'd better provide proof. Just saying.:wink:

Bundamin [organic chemistry] Post count: 233

It's obvious it isn't her, she's currently in her little pod having her Sirtis treatment.

ZenithaRed [P.I. founder] Post count: 4

Hello Bundamin. Since you seem to know a lot, remind me what an Advanced Neural Interface can do. Oh and the difference between Sirtis disease genemodding and P.I. Peak Human treatments. P.S. I like your "Shepard is a bitch" thread. Having only 7 replies in a year? Independent verification that I am either the sweetest boss in the history of humankind or the scariest. Which one would you like me to be today?

VernierVerner [particle physics] Post count: 12007

Yeah, it's her. I kinda knew already. Brought her in because I thought this thread needed killing and, well, who better?

ZenithaRed [P.I. founder] Post count: 5

Wait, what? HOOOWWW!

Miya2 [arc reactors] Post count: 1034

Conrad! Er. Hi, Shepard.:redface:

ScienceEnergy [mass effect fields] Post count: 7192

*munching popcorn intensifies*

VernierVerner [particle physics] Post count: 12008

I deliberately used voice to have that argument in the nearest lab to your office. (I usually use haptic.) I knew you were doing your machine ghost thing, we're in a bit of a lull, you have a habit of using representative names and we haven't had any new posters in this thread for months - the barrier to entry is too high. I then fed your previous posting habits the few times we tested the ANI game interface into my VI's statistics package, which gave 41% probability that you would post in the largest thread and weigh in, with increasing odds over time you'd reveal yourself. I didn't think you'd give yourself away on the second post, though.

Pretty cool, huh? I had the idea from that network security seminar you made us take. That social engineering stuff was fascinating.


TruthMatters [xenobiology] Post count: 2096

Incredible. Social incompetent trumped the genius. Must check if gravity still works. ... Does. Is real.

ZenithaRed [P.I. founder] Post count: 6

...

...:eek:

Conrad, I am both amazed and alarmed. We'll take this to PM.


ZenithaRed [P.I. founder] Post count: 7

Everyone else, you can relax. This place isn't going to be shut down - not even the bitch thread. I'll respond when summoned to science the shit out of something, but use the Revy genius sparingly, OK? I'm still busy as hell.

I will suggest that everyone read the thread I'm going to post on bias of expertise, domain-specific knowledge, ettiquette and limitations of text-based mediums.

In the meantime, I think you should move this over to a dedicated server and the in-house encryption. You know, from the same people who made the black-boxing i.e. me? I can guarantee that there are no backdoors whatsoever. That'd just be bad science, and I HATE bad science. Hint hint.:V

Dr. Revy Shepard, signing out... for now.
 
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ZenithaRed [metamaterials] Post count: 1

Hiya, Conrad introduced me. New hire, so you wouldn't have seen me round, but I have some experience in metamaterials and PI superalloys, and I think can weigh in on the whole mecha thing. I've even flown in a Legionary!

...is that Revy trying to be covert? Because the "I've even flown in a Legionary!" makes me think so.
 
I want to see revy wander into some poor sap's mech thread only to make a toss up a simple hypothesis about simulating biotics using humanoid structures.
 
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