Shepard Quest Mk VI, Technological Revolution
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The Treaty of Farixen makes it clear that
Associate members can not be stronger than core members by limiting military strength through dreadnought allotment.
Associate members can not get more dreadnoughts than core members
But as discuss previously the treaty is becoming irrelevant
Thus disrupting the balance power
We just need to make sure that when is stabilizes
The System alliance comes on top
It should be noted that the Treaty of Farixen didn't have much to do with controlling galactic threats, or else it was obsolete when it was written. I mean, the Rachni didn't have dreadnoughts; the Krogan didn't have dreadnoughts; the Geth didn't start with dreadnoughts; and the Batarians' threat level* has nothing to do with their dreadnoughts. The Treaty really just kept the Council races from having expensive arms races with each other, and had little to do with limiting existential threats to the galaxy.
*-OOC we know this is the Alpha Relay, but IC, depending on the results of the investigation, the SA and the Council will either find out that the Batarians have been experimenting with Relays or they've managed to find a way to spoof navigation logs, both of which are existential threats in their own right.
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Sadly, making the SA a 'top dog' through renegotiating the Treaty of Farixen, isn't going to happen. What we can do though, is help ensure that the new treaty is at least more even overall rather than being heavily weighted towards the Council species.
When I said top dog
I meant that we should insure that we should get as many advantages as possible
Like gaining a council seat while giving up as little as possible military tech and influence
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Why would we or the SA listen to the council if they try to control what type of weapons we can have? I see no way the council can justify making a new treaty to limit weapons and how would they make humanity sign it in the first place. It's not like they can use the same reasoning for their dreadnought limiting treaty when it would only effect the SA which will make it look like they are intimidated. What are they going to try and place an embargo on us? All that would do is make it harder for them to gain our tech and create outrage against them from their own people.
Also it's kind of hard to try to bully a foreign power even if allied into limiting their military when they have a stronger military then you which will probably be true after we finish the war.
Also it's kind of hard to try to bully a foreign power even if allied into limiting their military when they have a stronger military then you which will probably be true after we finish the war.
Deny the Alliance access to the Citadel market. From what @Hoyr has previously said that is main reason why anyone agrees to obey laws laid down by a governing body they have no vote in. There are other less obvious incentives as well but that is the main one. It's a big one too. Losing access to the Citadel markets would probably be crippling for a massive number of corporations in the Alliance and thus by extension the Alliance economy as a whole.
Look at PI for example: well over half our income comes from items we sell on the Citadel market. If we suddenly lost that our profit would likely be back in the low hundreds, if not high tens, of billions.
Why are you so hostile towards the Citadel? We should be doing our utmost to make them stronger as we have only a decade or so before the galaxy gets swarmed by giant omnicidal cuttlefishes. We should spread our technology, not hoard it.
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I'm not hostile against the council I'm just saying they wouldn't be able to force a treaty like that it's just not how politics work. Plus they can't really cut the Alliance from their economy with out crippleing them selves and causing outrage.
Treaties like the one your describing requires either that both sides compromise and get something out of it or one side is being sufficiently bullied into it and merely mutually crippling everyone's economy isn't really a threat when it's the economic equivlent of MAD. So what would the Alliance get in return that they couldn't get else where.
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It really is I wouldn't be suprised if some of the anti council sentiment people have in universe is caused by how the council is set up of not if not merely hating the principal of a council controlling that much..
Once we have the mind guard tech it should be given to every high ranking official there is no matter the race, as well as to every spectre operative.
Also I don't think we know about the Ardat-Yakshi IC but if and when we do we should look into them and see what we can do to help, hell Morinth (I think that's her name) may come to us in the near future when she hears about the high level genetic stuff we are doing.
Also I don't think we know about the Ardat-Yakshi IC but if and when we do we should look into them and see what we can do to help, hell Morinth (I think that's her name) may come to us in the near future when she hears about the high level genetic stuff we are doing.
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Is Cerberus still in the early mid or late mid stages of Development?
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Once an official declaration of war is issued, I don't think the Treaty is going to matter so much. What are they going to do? Demand that we stop building dreadnoughts? We're at war. Once we're done crushing some fools, then we can talk, but until then, they kindly screw off.
I believe that Cerberus is active but in the shadows
Although the rise of PI seen to have changed their plans somewhat, since Revy is advancing human technology by centuries.
An example of this is how they used PI tech in Jack.
They will likely not bother Revy, since she is just too important right now to humanity.
Speaking of Cerberus, what do you think are the chances of them trying to recruit Revy? She's a filthy rich industrialist and scientist, which makes her prime candidate for Cerberus membership.
Well at least until they make TIMmy go completely off his head with his implants.
We are the Goose that lay the pure ezzo and platinum eggs. I will be suprised if Ceberus dont have at least a small army to guard us at every moment.
They don't need to. The SA is stationing an entire fleet around our home planet.
They are already trying to befriend her
I mean look at Revy interactions with Lawson.
Personally, I think Revy may be even envious of Lawson
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Revy comes off as being somewhat socially awkward, meaning she'd be envious of Miranda's ability to come off as perfectly composed and confident at all times.
Also no, Cerberus wouldn't try to recruit Revy. Not only are there too many eyes on her for any such pitch to remain quiet (meaning the SA will start actively hunting them down), but she's already doing everything that Cerberus wants her to do - make Humanity Great. Cerberus-Revy connections will only hurt her in the grand scheme of things.
Also no, Cerberus wouldn't try to recruit Revy. Not only are there too many eyes on her for any such pitch to remain quiet (meaning the SA will start actively hunting them down), but she's already doing everything that Cerberus wants her to do - make Humanity Great. Cerberus-Revy connections will only hurt her in the grand scheme of things.
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Not to mention we're starting to build up our own fleet now, yes?
Another reason to become a corporate colony and/or member nation of SA, all the other governments have their own standing army and small fleet of ships all of could be the same size as the fleet the SA has because the SA is the representative government body of all of Earths nations and all of humanities independent colonies.
Why should revy create her own country?
Mindoir is her home.
I doubt that revy would want to leave.
She wants to strengthen her home not leave it.
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