Should the world be a Low Fantasy setting?

  • Yes

    Votes: 63 70.0%
  • No

    Votes: 27 30.0%

  • Total voters
    90
  • Poll closed .
It wouldn't be enough to supply all of the Arthwyd Empire, but it would hopefully starve off the demand until a stable internal supply could be set up.
Stave off

Aboard things were mixed news.
Abroad

which basically the Arthwyd legal code adapted for Forester purposes.
Which was

the Forluc turned out to be capable doing those things on their own
Capable of

The northerners were very much in abolishing slavery
In favor of
 
Oshha said that their actions will be insufficient, and he also said that the mid-turn was us doing three Main Cash Crops despite the council and our colonies also doing cash crops. He has clearly said multiple times that we need a lot more Cash Crops and we should heed that, not hope that we can have our cake and eat it too. We need to make sacrifices to get through this.

Too many actions.

[X] [MAIN] War Mission = (Slaver Forluc)
[X] [SEC] Diplomatic Expedition (Urthdysh)
[X] [SEC] Diplomatic Expedition (Forluc)
[X] [SEC] Switch Province Policy = (Economy)

Let's officially get that triple alliance up (and with a big statement) and let the providences handle planting cash crops for now.

We can handle Studying Magic and discovering the concept of Golems later.

I also have a plan for that next turn.
 
We can handle Studying Magic and discovering the concept of Golems later.

I also have a plan for that next turn.
Keep in mind that people are gonna want to build a theatre while our culture hero is still alive. You'll have to build your plan around that. Not saying we should build a theatre next turn (nor that we shouldn't), just that that's how it's gonna go.
 

Point. Still I think this is a good opportunity to get that triple alliance and not just have the Urthdysh join later.

Anyways, I'm changing the plan then.

[X] [MAIN] War Mission = (Slaver Forluc)
[X] [SEC] Diplomatic Expedition (Forluc)
[X] [SEC] Diplomatic Expedition (Urthdysh)
[X] [Sec] Study Magic
[X] [SEC] Switch Province Policy = (Economy)

I think comboing a Diplomatic Expedition to the Urthdysh to a Study Magic action works for a variety of reasons.

First, a Diplo action to the Urthdysh and the Furloc at the same time allows us to get that triple alliance up and running.

Second, and this was the idea I had for next turn, but given that the Urthdysh specialize in magic and the undead, and even have a Mystic hero!, it'd be child's play for them to slap on some stone on the skeletons or learn the divine version of undead thralldom with Golem crafting.

And if we do develop Golems and form a alliance that gets the Urthdysh and Furloc (plus if we get Nalniryn and Zaranna on our side) that'll really take the wind out of the southerner's sails.

If they still want to fight even after that it'd just be do to sheer stubbornness and the fact that they're already lawbreakers.
 
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[X] [MAIN] Plant Cash Crops
[X] [SEC] Plant Cash Crops
[X] [MAIN] War Mission = (Slaver Forluc)
[X] [SEC] Switch Province Policy = (Economy)
 
[X] [MAIN] Plant Cash Crops
[X] [SEC] Build Arthrynite Temples = Greenbay
[X] [MAIN] War Mission = (Slaver Forluc)
[X] [SEC] Switch Province Policy = (Economy)
 
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It's likely they don't know we've seeking out alliances.
Sure, but why don't they seek out an alliance? I mean, they're not a designated receiver in our relationship, they themselves can put in the effort to go out and make an ally of us, so why don't they?

[X] [SEC/MAIN] Build Arthrynite Temples = Greenbay
A diplomatic expedition is more worth our time at the moment than a temple, and it's also something that gets us a temple by completing a quest. This action of yours is objectively bad. Also it's invalid - you need to choose whether it's a secondary or a main.
 
[X] [MAIN] War Mission = (Slaver Forluc)
[X] [MAIN] Plant Cash Crops
[X] [SEC] Diplomatic Expedition (Forluc)
[X] [SEC] Switch Province Policy = (Economy)
 
...Uh, there zero Temp Wealth and ten Permanent Wealth.
What are you talking about? We have 13 permanent wealth and 6 temp wealth.


By the way, @Oshha obviously going into negative Econ crashes the Economy, but what of negative Wealth? The nobles just lose their riches?
When someone was voting to get us to -4 Wealth, Oshha said that it would result in the total collapse of the world economy, so it's probably more than that.
 
[X] [MAIN] Plant Cash Crops
[X][SEC] Diplomatic Expedition (Forluc)
[X] [MAIN] War Mission = (Slaver Forluc)
[X] [SEC] Switch Province Policy = (Economy)
 
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[X] [MAIN] Plant Cash Crops
[X] [SEC] Plant Cash Crops
[X] [MAIN] War Mission = (Slaver Forluc)
[X] [SEC] Switch Province Policy = (Economy)
 
Vote is still open.
Vote Tally : Chronicles of Nations - Civ Quest - Original | Page 512 | Sufficient Velocity [Posts: 12791-12838]
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Task: MAIN
[X][MAIN] War Mission = (Slaver Forluc)
No. of Votes: 18
[X][MAIN] Plant Cash Crops
No. of Votes: 17
[X][MAIN] Build Roads = (Greenbay)
No. of Votes: 1
[X][MAIN] Build Roads = (North Coast Plains)
No. of Votes: 1
[X][MAIN] Build Roads = (Upriver Plains)
No. of Votes: 1
[X][MAIN] Build Roads = (Northern Green River)
No. of Votes: 1
[X][MAIN] Build Roads = (Southern Green River)
No. of Votes: 1

——————————————————————————————————————————————Task: SEC
[X][SEC] Switch Province Policy = (Economy)
No. of Votes: 15
[X][SEC] Diplomatic Expedition (Forluc)
No. of Votes: 9
[X][SEC] Plant Cash Crops
No. of Votes: 5
[X][SEC] Plant Sacred Forests
No. of Votes: 2
[X][SEC] Diplomatic Expedition (Urthdysh)
No. of Votes: 1
[X][Sec] Study Magic
No. of Votes: 1
[X][SEC] Build Arthrynite Temples = Greenbay
No. of Votes: 1
Total No. of Voters: 20
 
[X][MAIN] War Mission = (Slaver Forluc)
[X][MAIN] Plant Cash Crops
[X][SEC] Switch Province Policy = (Economy)
[X][SEC] Diplomatic Expedition (Forluc)
 
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Where are you getting your numbers?

We have 13 permanent wealth and six temp wealth.

Hmm. I read the Civ page on the bottom of the threadmark, but must have accidentally checked a earlier one. My bad.

When someone was voting to get us to -4 Wealth, Oshha said that it would result in the total collapse of the world economy, so it's probably more than that.

He did? Can you link?
 
@Oshha Would we get an alliance with the Free Forluc from a war mission or does it have to be from a diplomatic expedition?

Right now, you have a temporary alliance with the Free Forluc for the duration of the war. You will most likely have the chance to make it more long-lasting if you win the war.

Heh, did you intentionally set this up to become the American Civil War if we failed or did the dice just fall exactly right these last updates and you rolled with it?

It was not intentionally set. Things just happened to turn out to be similar to the American Civil War.

Stave off


Abroad


Which was


Capable of


In favor of

Fixed now. Thanks for pointing those out.

@Oshha, do we have any idea why the Urthdysh haven't sent their own diplomatic expedition to ally with us?

They are working on the Forluc to order to aim for a triple alliance between the Urthdysh Federation, the Forluc Kingdom and the Arthwyd Empire. Once they got things to that point, they will attempt to get the triple alliance in place.

By the way, @Oshha obviously going into negative Econ crashes the Economy, but what of negative Wealth? The nobles just lose their riches?

The specifics varies from case to case, but in general, it means that you have overextended yourself by attempting to do things that your economy is unable to support.

@Oshha, does the change policy vote require a certain proportion of voters to pass?

50% or higher.
 
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