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Revlid said:
More than waifu will ruin your laifu, you impure skank.

In point of fact, Tamamo is the only girl who will allow you to enjoy the benefits of a harem... without cheating.
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Isn't sure also the one that promised an epic Tamamo vs Tamamo war of such violence that even Attila would look on in awe if you accepted candy or chocolates from another Tamamo ?
 
Grue said:
All those foxgirls are Tamamo, a single Servant. What part of this is cheating?:V
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... Tamamo is jealous and will not share with other Tamamo. Put bluntly, either you need to be the most loving husbando in existence, or you need to seriously reconsider how long you wish to live for. I guarantee Tamamo won't settle for Tamamo-best. She is the waifu, not a waifu.
 
Tamamo murders Tamamo

This is a fact. You can't have two Tamamo in the room without them trying to kill each other eventually

Even Cat who lacks Tamamo Blue's usual Talk Shit and Yan Vibes still wants to kill Blue

Anyway Lancer Alter Arturia having a Horse as well a Lancer and Riding actually makes sense since she is 'King Arthur as the leader of the Wild Hunt' and at her time it was often pictured as a bunch of horse riders well hunting down a demonic boar or humans and she actually has the Wild Hunt NP so yeah its not so bullshit
 
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Revlid said:
If nothing else, Fate at least gives the nod to Pankration as the world's oldest known mixed martial arts style, which by the setting's rules should mean Chiron blows Shuwen's Bajiquan out of the water.
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Completely wrong and if anything means the opposite.
By the setting's rules, anything involving humanity's knowledge gets better over time.

Vanargand said:
He sorta is?

Nasu: Everyone from 19th Century suck balls and Edison is only as he is because in America he was the only Governamental Figure summoned and so all the presidents bet their odds on him and his allies defeating the Celts, outside of Grand Orders (the term for missions to saving mankind, not the game) he is a normal human with E-D stats everywhere

Mata Hari. Has one really good skill. If it fails she's dead period

Li Shuwen. One Hit Kill no matter what defense you put against, even just grazing is fucking fatal.

High Ranking Presence Concealment that never falls and you can only detect part of him if you have well detect skills or Instinct/Eye of Mind. Which means Li Shuwen will fight you and you can't HEAR/FEEL/SEE him at all

Oh and in case all that fails he can just Punch Good everything to death making the other two skills not Succeed or Die at all

Also B Rank STR and A Rank AGI. In a age of 'Humans suck balls, period.' At least his endurance is C which is not that bullshit and Mana/Luck are E which evens out somewhat

I mean yeah he loses HARD to AOE attacks but with presence concealment why would you shoot at him if you don't even have a single hint that he is around?
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No, you're wrong. You're so damn wrong. There is a clear trend that modern servants have weaker physical ability but stronger NPs and skills. This reflects with everything Nasu harps about with regards humanity's advancement.

Edison was chosen as the best candidate to oppose the Celts. Thus the presidents across history imbued him with additional power to stand up physically to them. Edison can literally shut down mystery in the area, and his interlude had him stealing (copying? not sure) Gae Bolg and Rule Breaker and combine them into a better NP. He failed, but the idea is there. Do you imagine that? Literally improving NPs? That's crazy as shit.
Hell, he did take the Babbagebots, turn'em into electrically-powered mechanized armor and mass-produced them.

Mata Hari is weak as a Servant, because she was never a combatant. However, look at her skills and NP. She's a superb infiltrator. Which is, you know, her actual role. She can charm entire crowds of anything ffs.

Helena's like a prodigy of magecraft, Babbage's steam RM, Tesla's everything, who else do I forget. Hell, even Emiya represents this to an extent, he can defeat other, physically superior servants through tactics and skill.

Throw me other modern servants and I'll tell you why they don't suck, and it will be because of their skills, inventions, NPs, etc.

You're not only conflating gameplay and lore, you're telling me modern servants suck because they can't lift as much as older people when the entire conceit of human advancement and modern technology is that skill, wisdom, intelligence and technique have trumped and replaced physical might. Jesus christ go read a goddamn shonen manga or something. They have the punchmans you want.
 
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Kay kay sorry Kyte jesus tone down the fucking salt already.

This is coming to what? Internet fights?

I don't like Li Super Kung Fu so I won't talk about him anymore there problem solved

Kyte said:
Completely wrong and if anything means the opposite.
By the setting's rules, anything involving humanity's knowledge gets better over time.
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Yeah when Humanity leaves Gaia's Marble which is like Millenia from current nasu era
 
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No, you're an idiot that needs to get educated or at least have his whining battered down with actual facts.

cthulhu fartagn said:
according to the nasu wiki, alexander can be summoned as lancer, berserker, and caster.

the first two i can see. the third... not so much.

that aside, are there any fanmade sheets for him in those classes?
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Have you checked where exactly it gets that claim from? If it's Ace Royal then it's basically bullshit in a can.
 
Oh, I see how it is. You did this same stupid bullshit there and because they shut you down like I just did you ran away and claim they're mean or whatever. Don't think I didn't see that post you just deleted.

And at least I had the decency to reply to your whining by engaging the argument. I only called you names after you gave up on the discussion.
 
Kyte said:
Oh, I see how it is. You did this same stupid bullshit there and because they shut you down like I just did you ran away and claim they're mean or whatever. Don't think I didn't see that post you just deleted.

And at least I had the decency to reply to your whining by engaging the argument. I only called you names after you gave up on the discussion.
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Seriously what's the point of insulting me?

I already backed off. You are just posturing here

Stop with the internet tough guy already it makes you look ridiculous
 
Maybe if you didn't pretend you know what you're talking about.

Vanargand said:
Anyway Lancer Alter Arturia having a Horse as well a Lancer and Riding actually makes sense since she is 'King Arthur as the leader of the Wild Hunt' and at her time it was often pictured as a bunch of horse riders well hunting down a demonic boar or humans and she actually has the Wild Hunt NP so yeah its not so bullshit
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The horse is Llamrei, Arthur's actual horse in the myth. It's nothing really fancy, she just got to keep her horse. Presumably because Rhongomyniad is shaped like a jousting lance.
Also what's this about wild hunt NP. The Golden Wild Hunt is Drake's NP.
 
Kyte said:
Maybe if you didn't pretend you know what you're talking about.


The horse is Llamrei, Arthur's actual horse in the myth. It's nothing really fancy, she just got to keep her horse. Presumably because Rhongomyniad is shaped like a jousting lance.
Also what's this about wild hunt NP. The Golden Wild Hunt is Drake's NP.
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Lancer Alter Kara no Kyoukai event Lancer Alter calls herself the Storm King of the Wild Hunt

It was in the beggining-mid floors of the event I believe so it was still serious and not Carnival Phantasm yet

And there are myths about King Arthur being one of the Wild Hunts leaders so it makes sense

It's nothing really fancy, she just got to keep her horse.
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If we go by that then it means I can give any Saber/Lancer/Archer their Rides they had in life for no reasons other than 'Nothing really fancy' bloody horse has blood red eyes and is pitch black. That thing is a Phantasmal Species for sure
 
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    • Kyte said:
    Oh, I see how it is. You did this same stupid bullshit there and because they shut you down like I just did you ran away and claim they're mean or whatever. Don't think I didn't see that post you just deleted.

    And at least I had the decency to reply to your whining by engaging the argument. I only called you names after you gave up on the discussion.
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    warning @Kyte is now under a 24-hr thread-ban. Please refrain from replying or calling out during that period (@Vanargand in particular). Everyone should take a moment to cool their jets.

    Please keep in mind that believing that you are right does not entitle you to try and take lumps out of people you are debating with.
     
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    • EDIT: What a surprise.

    Back to having a civil conversation about... whether a wrestling centaur could beat up Bruce Lee, I guess.
     
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    Well, more recently created Servants tend to be stronger than the old ones.

    Remember back when EX-Rank Noble Phantasms and skills used to be rare?
     
    Well now that that shit show was dealt with it is time for our regularly scheduled grand order waifu bullshit. God bless type moon.
     
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