Grue
滅亡迅雷
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To be fair, Shiki did save her life after the whole bridge thing.
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Type Moon General
Somethings label Skills in FGO though are clearly weapons and do inflict damage.
The CM3 link I read over didn't mention ESP. Is there another more complete one?
So your interpretation is, Cu is stronger, but not by enough Emiya can't hold his own with other skills and attributes?
I see. That and some other explanations helps explain what the term ESP means in Nasuverse a lot. Thanks.
Something that occurred to me, apropos of nothing...
In Eastern literature, one major source of spiritual impurities is meant to be food; mortal food and drink, as "pleasures of the flesh," are a large part of why mortal bodies are impure (hence weak and fragile.) As such, one of the first tasks of anyone seeking spiritual transcendence of any kind is to replace all food and drink with as simple a meal as you can get, and one of the ultimate goals, inevitably, is to transcend food and drink entirely.
... This is the point where I mention that Ryougi Shiki's refrigerator stocks absolutely nothing but distilled water until Mikiya gifts her some strawberry ice cream.
*amused*
In Eastern literature, one major source of spiritual impurities is meant to be food; mortal food and drink, as "pleasures of the flesh," are a large part of why mortal bodies are impure (hence weak and fragile.) As such, one of the first tasks of anyone seeking spiritual transcendence of any kind is to replace all food and drink with as simple a meal as you can get, and one of the ultimate goals, inevitably, is to transcend food and drink entirely.
... This is the point where I mention that Ryougi Shiki's refrigerator stocks absolutely nothing but distilled water until Mikiya gifts her some strawberry ice cream.
*amused*
ultra
Crusader King
- Location
- Fuyuki City
Freddy?Unrelatedly, speaking of mental pollution, the very picture of mental health:
EDIT:
The rawtext of Fujinon Material, in case anyone cares.
変異特異点・境界式にて発見された少女。
厳格な趣きの女学院の制服、慎み深い言葉づかい、果断すぎる行動力。すべてが日常的でありながら、どこか立 ち位置のズレた危うさを感じさせる。
視界に映るものであれば、硬度・構造・規模を無視してねじ曲げる"歪曲の魔眼"の保持者。
浅上という名字は古くは浅神と書き、神（異能）に通じる巫女の家系だったという。
身長／体重：157cm・51kg
出典：空の境界
地域：日本
属性：秩序・悪 性別：女性
日本人形を思わせる美人。陰のある立ち振る舞いは、しかし、滲むような清楚さがある。
Bond 1
無痛症―――五感のうち触覚が麻痺しており、
痛覚を知らずに生きてきた少女。
痛みを知らない為、他人の気持ちに共感する事ができず、人々の輪から孤立していた。
幼い頃から知性の高かった藤乃は、自分を守るために"自分は普通の人間である"とまわりに知らしめるために 無痛症である事を隠し、また、自分の心も偽ってきた。
コラボイベント『復刻版:空の境界/the Garden of Order -Revival-』の追加サーヴァント。シナリオで登場する事はない。ゲストとしてのスペシャル参戦。
Bond 2
○歪曲の魔眼：ＥＸ
魔眼と呼称される異能の中でも最上級のもの。
異能の中の異能、希少品の中の希少品。無機・有機問わず、"物質として存在するもの"を一枚のプリント映像 として捉え、これをねじる事で対象の強度・規模を問わずに捻り、切断する。
○痛覚残留：Ａ
完治したというのに繰り返す死の痛み。人間の証明。浅神の一族は少女の異能を封じる為、その触覚を閉じ込め た。
○単独行動：Ａ＋
孤独を好む訳ではないが、なんとなくひとりでぶらつく悪癖がある。尾行とか得意。魔力切れを起こして本人は とても辛い筈なのだが、痛覚が薄いため気付いていない。
Bond 3
『唯識・歪曲の魔眼』
ランク：ＥＸ 種別：対界宝具 レンジ：１～9999
ゆいしき・わいきょくのまがん。
夏に降る懐（なつかし）の。
千里眼（クレアボイアンス）を併発した事により、人間の視界から外れた視界―――
神の視点である俯瞰の視点から対象を"視認"し、ねじ曲げる超遠距離物理崩壊。
封鎖されていた痛みは堰を切って螺旋を描く。
―――その崩落は泣き崩れる女のように。
Bond 4
十代後半の少女。温和で受け身な性格。
夫の影踏まずタイプの控えめな女性像。
男性の暴力的なところは苦手だが、同時にそんな子供らしい一面を愛らしいとも思っている。
なので、完全な理性の人に対しては愛情より憧れ（恋の感情）を抱くようだ。
常識を重んじ相手を立てる才女だが、根底は徹底した悲観主義者かつリアリストなので時に辛辣な意見を口にす る事も。忍耐強いが、一度たがが外れると相手を追い詰めるまで（事態を解決するまで）止まらない、暴走ダン プカーでもある。
このあたり、決断に容赦のない式と似ている。
女性的な仕草、口調、性格ではあるが、趣味は少女趣味からかけ離れたもの。ホラー映画鑑賞など、ひとりでこ っそりと楽しむ暗いものを好む。
本人は最期まで自覚する事はないが、潜在的な加虐性質。追い詰められると途端に残酷・冷酷・悪趣味になるの はこのため。
Bond 5
藤乃のいた時代は人理焼却によって灰になった。
彼女も同様に燃え尽きたが、その特異性を世界の抑止力は見逃さなかった。
アラヤ識は人理焼却を覆す為の戦力の一つとして彼女の異能を採用し、彼女は仮初めのサーヴァントとしてカル デアに召喚される事になった。
彼女にとって今の自分は『夢』にすぎない。
式同様、燃え尽きる直前に見ている、人理焼却を覆さなければ消えるだけの一夜の幻だ。
普通の感性なら混乱し、パニックに陥るところだが、藤乃はこの異常をすんなりと受け入れた。
サーヴァントとして呼ばれた自分の立場をきっちりと理解し、自分にできる範囲でマスターの力になろうと努め るだろう。
Yuishiki ・ The Mystic Eyes of Distortion
Rank EX, Anti-World, Range: 1 ~ 9999
- Location
- Mountains and rivers
"Battle modifier" is a broad category. Sometimes, this is so because things that might qualify as NPs are artificially stamped as skills. In Japanese, Noble Phantasm is hōgu—a tool used by a hero or a god. However, a legend might take a different form upon summoning, so taking it at face value is hopeless.
TMdict | Psychic PowerKara no Kyōkai Glossary said:
TMdict | Psychic User
Yes your problem is you're looking at F/GO gameplay as lore.
fallacies
Puyo Mage
What her profile actually says:
Whether or not her existence as of the Incineration would qualify as a Counter Guardian isn't really given. If you define a Counter Guardian merely as "a human soul of a deceased individual not regaled as a Heroic Spirit, engaged by the World to service the purposes of the Counter Force," then Fujino qualifies -- for a certain value of 'deceased.'Fujinon Material said:
And the overturning of the Incineration isn't a certain thing. This is why it's "in the condition of not overturning." If the overturning doesn't eventually come about, then "her existence as of present" will instead become as a dream from which she never wakes.
一夜の幻 gives beyond the literal meaning of "an illusion of a single night" the sense of being an illusion that is merely transient; and it's "her existence as of present" that becomes the illusion, rather than "her experiences as a Servant."
Certain things are called Skills because Word of God.
Why are they Skills? Because the author said so.
I'm not sure that there's anything deeper there for you to understand.
I said this after spending a lengthy amount of time explaining Psychic abilities. If you read it, this should've answered part of your question. The expectation was that you would go and read CM3 to understand how magecraft works by comparison.
More to the point, getting questions answered in a thread isn't a replacement for directly engaging the source material.
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BrokenAscendent
Unum prae omnibus aliis
- Location
- Auld Lang Syne
Ohhh direct translations are love thank you.
But I think my general idea was correct.
fallacies
Puyo Mage
She's not confirmed not to be a Counter Guardian.
Her status as a Servant could be "permanent," presumably so long as she's maintained as an existence by Chaldea. It's just that if not the overturning of the Incineration, she becomes as a "transient illusion."
The act of waking will not make her experiences as a Servant into a dream, because her existence as a Servant is already as a dream. Certainly, it would probably "seem like a dream" whenever it is that she happens wakes up from the Incineration, but that's not what is directly meant in the text.
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BrokenAscendent
Unum prae omnibus aliis
- Location
- Auld Lang Syne
Japanese is confusing...
But My idea was she isn't exactly a counter guardian and this is sort of a 'real, yet not real' situation.
Warning: Can we not
- Location
- Britain
can we not
Let me make things very clear. Do not sexualise children, or beings that resemble children. There is no wiggle room here, just do not do it. Implying that you're heavily in favour of a character that looks like a child having porn made of her falls under this, and I'll be giving you a Staff Notice to ensure that you remember this. Next time, it's points.
See, I've got a problem here. TYPE-Moon related material keeps showing up in the report queue, and it is nearly always because someone is being incredibly creepy towards children or beings that look like children.I see nothing wrong with any of this
Let me make things very clear. Do not sexualise children, or beings that resemble children. There is no wiggle room here, just do not do it. Implying that you're heavily in favour of a character that looks like a child having porn made of her falls under this, and I'll be giving you a Staff Notice to ensure that you remember this. Next time, it's points.
DimensionalGuy
Lazy Bastard
- Location
- Sweden
- Location
- Washington
Technically-not-lolis might not be children themselves, but they are made for the purpose of satisfying the lolicon kink without the ramifications of the whole pedophilia thing. So it is very much still creepy.
Xoroth
Over the Hills and through the Felfire...
I guess my perspective is different since she just looks like a petite woman. Asian women, which she supposedly is, often appear that way.
LostDeviljho
Flame Dragon Princess
- Location
- The glorious Pacific Northwest
- Pronouns
- Any
I mean, Shuten Douji falls into that category for me, but Manaka definitely looks like a child to my eyes.
Xoroth
Over the Hills and through the Felfire...
I thought she was older than Ayaka who is near the end of high school.
Salty
Shadow Cabal Assumptor Supreme
- Location
- Sun, Moon, Talia
- Pronouns
- I/Me
- Location
- Spain
In Prototype, yes. In Fragments, Ayaka's still in. . .I think middle school?
That's why I explicitly mentioned Fragments. Not that Manaka changed any in the interim between that and Prototype proper, apparently.
Xoroth
Over the Hills and through the Felfire...
Right, I brain farted. Thanks.
LostDeviljho
Flame Dragon Princess
- Location
- The glorious Pacific Northwest
- Pronouns
- Any
So, having watched Future Gospel earlier today, a thought occurred: isn't Musashi's Empyrean Eye basically Evaluative future-sight? What's the difference?
- Location
- Ireland
- Pronouns
- He/Him
I don't think there is much of a difference when you get down to it, besides Musashi apparently only needing one eye.
I'd say it's effectively the same end result - there's only one future - but the way it works is different.
Bomber man sees the future with one eye and the results required to make the future occur in the other. Musashi condenses the various futures into the one she wants.
I think that's how it works, anyways.
fallacies
Puyo Mage
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