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Time of the Gods: Into the Amber Age

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Dream Logic said:
We should breed octopi so they can control the crab population. Unless that creates a crab faith spirit to be our nemesis.

Especially if it creates a crab faith spirit to be our nemesis!
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Crabs fearing us so much that they spontaneously start counting as a worshipping population for the purposes of whatever-the-heck decides when faith spirits are thingied into existence would be funny.
 
This was actually easier than I thought it would be, I guess the break allowed me to work on it subconsciously? Anyway.

First, with this:
Powerofmind said:
Yes. THAT WHICH WINDS is of Third Magics, the Grand Enabler of the Great Toil and all MACHINATIONS exerted upon Reality.
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I can complete this:

First there was the Word. The Word said, Let There Be Light, and lo, There was Light. Second came the Light, which allowed the great works of creation to be seen in all their glory, and allowed them to begin turning. Third of these was the Great Toil: the worlds as a whole, complete, discrete, inviolate. Worlds made existent, complete, with all of Reality subject to the Machinations of that Toil. Actions made separate, discrete from each other action. Coherency, for not everything happened at once. Inviolate, for not even the greatest of the creations of the Toil could break it.

Hmm... a bit too wordy...

First there was the Word. The Word said, Let There Be Light, and lo, There was Light. Second came the Light, which shone upon the still form of the Great Toil. Third came That Which Winds, and lo, the gears of the Great Toil began to turn...

Good enough for now.

So, @Abby Normal, @PrimalShadow , I think this is the part you wanted?

The First Magic is one of sound, to resonate with the Word.
The Second Magic is one of color, to resonate with the Light.
The Third Magic is one of reality, to resonate with the Turning of the Gears - That Which Winds.

That Which Winds is literally that which turns the Gears of Reality - all the clockwork and gears of That Which Lies Between, Below, and Beyond.

At the simplest end, it governs things like 'time', 'space', 'gravity', etc. At the more complicated end, things like the rules governing Spirits, perhaps including exceptions and exemptions - 'All MACHINATIONS exerted upon reality' - which may be how the Third Magic enabled Attrouska to seriously fuck up the [Imprisoned One], by changing how the [Imprisoned One] had to interact with his worshipers? Not sure, insufficient data.

Also has more benign uses, I'm quite sure - like eliminating such exceptions.

I admit I first thought it was Time, but that just didn't work out with the imagery and comments provided previously.

Oh, the 'perfect liquid' is the currency/grease which helps the gears turn. Ambrosia may well be a derivative in some form - see the update between worlds, when we drank some!

Edit: Meant to say 'color' instead of 'light' for the Second Magic.
 
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Raising Kittens said:
Oh, the 'perfect liquid' is the currency/grease which helps the gears turn. Ambrosia may well be a derivative in some form - see the update between worlds, when we drank some!
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Gaerig: "The lube was tasty"

Raising Kittens said:
The First Magic is one of sound, to resonate with the Word.
The Second Magic is one of light, to resonate with the Light.
The Third Magic is one of reality, to resonate with the Turning of the Gears - That Which Winds.
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To simplify further:
The First Magic is of Sound. The Perform skill is of RHYTHM(mostly thanks to Dance, otherwise it'd be just sound).
The Second Magic is that of Light. The Art skill is of APPEARANCE(mostly thanks to Weaving/Carving and other monochrome arts).

The Third Magic then, should be Motion or Patterns. The Gears thing says Motion, but the Mysticism thing says it has to do with the Patterns overarching the Perform and Art..

In other words: Lights, Camera, Action!
 
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veekie said:
Gaerig: "The lube was tasty"


To simplify further:
The First Magic is of Sound. The Perform skill is of RHYTHM(mostly thanks to Dance, otherwise it'd be just sound).
The Second Magic is that of Light. The Art skill is of APPEARANCE(mostly thanks to Weaving/Carving and other monochrome arts).

The Third Magic then, should be Motion or Patterns. The Gears thing says Motion.

In other words: Lights, Camera, Action!
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Droll.

I meant for the Second Magic to be of color, however, given how much the color of things plays a part - even in monochrome arts, the specific shades and depths influence the color the viewer is meant to perceive.

Agreed with what the skills are, however.

And you missed the sound guys! Or is it being dubbed in after? :p
 
@Powerofmind do you have a general ETA for the double update? Trying to decide if i should stay up another little bit or not (So like, this isn't trying to rush you; just determines if i stay up to read it or go to bed and read it in the morning :p)
 
Sivantic said:
So in basic U.S. Gov terms you're saying she makes an excellent executive branch, but is horrible at legislative(making the rules)?
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She's excellent at making the rules, which is part of the problem - she has to be the one making the rules. It doesn't help that she only really seems to care about herself, and her worshipers only so far as they aid in her ends, so her laws are only intended to benefit her, which results in things like mortals utterly loathing her, or being fanatics.
 
Raising Kittens said:
I meant for the Second Magic to be of color, however, given how much the color of things plays a part - even in monochrome arts, the specific shades and depths influence the color the viewer is meant to perceive.
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That depends on whether runes and writing are of the Second Magic or the Third, but the majority of Arts we know of don't involve color. Sculpting, Carving, Pottery, Weaving, are all distinctly monochrome. Only Painting has color, and then only 1-2 pigments unless they have someone who can make multiple pigments(Ochre, Ash, Lapis Lazuli gives you a pretty limited palette unless you're using Harvest Moon to transmute random shit into inks)

Incidentally
-Salt turns to Silver. White powdery substance to glittery powdery substance
-Bone turns to Obsidian.

We need higher quality base materials to get higher quality outputs, as we can see from Salt(which is incredibly valuable to produce in significant amounts) making a higher tier material than Bone.

So, if we want to get into the raw materials business, maybe we should vary it up:
-What happens if we transmute
--Obsidian
--Silver
--Amber
--Fat(relatively valuable, and commonplace, but not lasting)
--Hair/Wool/Fur - Silk?
--Leather
--Wood - I'm suspecting it might become Jade here.
--Clay - Suspecting Ochre here

Can't wait to get Harvest Moon back so we can try these out.
 
Raising Kittens said:
She's excellent at making the rules, which is part of the problem - she has to be the one making the rules. It doesn't help that she only really seems to care about herself, and her worshipers only so far as they aid in her ends, so her laws are only intended to benefit her, which results in things like mortals utterly loathing her, or being fanatics.
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That's my point. She doesn't sound very competent at making good rules that benefit all the pantheon even if she wants to make them. She does however seem driven enough to enforce those rules however which is why I made the comparison. We just need to get her accept them from someone(Not Gaerig though, you crazy??:p)
 
chocolote12 said:
I am a snow golem. I write about cassowaries.

Alternatively, Cassowaries write about me.

But enough. Clearly, you've broken into Gaerig's stash this night, and while I congratulate you on your skillfulness you must away before she returns, and comes upon the scene of your crime.
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save me, @Pandemonious Ivy
You're my only hope
I promise pyramid and Canal memes
 
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Alright, everyone is embracing the spirit of pure undistilled madness! Great!

Now all we need to do is do the samething in character, and create a race of shark men and Crabs with laser vision, and then everything will be perfect forever
 
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@veekie I like most of those experiments, but I am honestly pretty leery of using it on amber. Or giving more amber to our kid. If we actually want to make something worth enchanting amber seems like it will inevitably get involved, and burning it up in experiments just seems like a bad call.
 
veekie said:
That depends on whether runes and writing are of the Second Magic or the Third, but the majority of Arts we know of don't involve color. Sculpting, Carving, Pottery, Weaving, are all distinctly monochrome.
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The arts don't involve color, no. The applications do, and what Second Magic effects we've seen have all been color based.

I don't think Writing or Runes are directly magical. I think they can be used to assist in crafting magic items and ritual focuses, and as such are extremely useful, but not necessary.

However, we do lack data.

Painting isn't really a Stone Age skill, in my opinion. Sure, there are those paintings on caverns, but they aren't particularly good examples of paintings, now are they? No, I think it's a Bronze Age skill, like Discovery, that Attrouska picked up by virtue of her origin: Lawmaker, picked up Minor Spirit of Law quickly, snowballed from there.

Sivantic said:
That's my point. She doesn't sound very competent at making good rules that benefit all the pantheon even if she wants to make them. She does however seem driven enough to enforce those rules however which is why I made the comparison. We just need to get her accept them from someone(Not Gaerig though, you crazy??:p)
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She is good at making rules that benefit her, which is in her direct and immediate interest. It's only the long-term effects of such that escape her, likely one of her blind spots.

I don't think we can break her to our rule - or anybody else's - without doing to her something on par with what was done to the [Imprisoned One], and I'd much rather just kill someone than do that to them.
 
mc2rpg said:
@veekie I like most of those experiments, but I am honestly pretty leery of using it on amber. Or giving more amber to our kid. If we actually want to make something worth enchanting amber seems like it will inevitably get involved, and burning it up in experiments just seems like a bad call.
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Amber is reasonably renewable actually, and Harvest Moon uptiers the material.

So what's uptier of Amber?
 
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