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There Was A Different Idea: An MCU Producer Quest

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Qudrim8054 said:
@overmind, where did that amazing photo come from?! Did you made it?! Was it somewhere on the internet?! This is freaking incredible!
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I was looking for some images of Jason Momoa to show how he would look as a blonde: somewhat similar to his Aquaman look but without the costume, when I found someone had done an image of him as Thor.

I also found one of him as Wolverine and one as Kraven the Hunter.
 
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I think with the additional support for Thor we can explore the rest of the Nine Realms as actual civilizations in their own right in future Thor movies. Don't need to waste the "Ragnarok" prophecy early.
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God, that would be amazing to do. We all know how Thor: The Dark World went in the OTL with Svartalfheim...
 
Kinda sucks that Heimdall got the short end of the stick in this one. We'll have to try and hope for a better roll next time.

But still, we broke past $1 billion in total earnings from all three movies.

Hopefully DC doesn't end up making another massive success so soon.
 
Maybe we could recast Heimdall next time?

Or just give the actor (who I've already forgotten the name of) a second chance?
 
I just came up with a really cracked casting idea. How about, for either Wonder Man or his evil brother the Grim Reaper, we cast Henry Cavill? :lol: I mean, Cavill could certainly pull off looking like the brother of Hayden.
 
Random thought, everybody, but who else is going to be in the Wonder Man movie. I mean, we only have, like, three characters: Eric Williams/Grim Reaper, Simon Williams/Wonder Man, and Whitney Frost/Madame Masque, with possibly Fury and Coulson making some minor appearances.

So that just leaves this question: Does anyone have any ideas on who else we could put in the movie? I'm thinking that maybe Dr. Hank Pym could be an employee at Williams Industries or something, I dunno. :V
 
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Duke William of said:
Random thought, everybody, but who else is going to be in the Wonder Man movie. I mean, we only have, like, three characters: Eric Williams/Grim Reaper, Simon Williams/Wonder Man, and Whitney Frost/Madame Masque, with possibly Fury and Coulson making some minor appearances. Does anyone have any ideas on who else we could put in the movie? I'm thinking that maybe Dr. Hank Pym or something, I dunno. :V
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You may see this as a bad thing but it is our chance to come up with interesting side characters that could become part of Marvel comics in-universe.

Perhaps have a quirky/wacky head scientist at Williams Innovations? (Hired before the Maggia infiltration and unaware of it) Because neither Eric or Simon or Maggia are scientists themselves. Genius scientist potentially rivaling Stark but doesn't really think about what is marketable / profitable, just researches whatever random thing he can think of on that day. A happier, wackier, person than Hank Pym that still views the world with a sense of childlike imagination and optimism. Like Robin Williams in Flubber. Perhaps him getting fired is a clue to Simon or serves as the last straw for Simon to realize what is going on? Perhaps they are the one that invented the ionic treatment but it's one of up to three dozens of minor innovations that he invented and developed, giving the Maggia a backlog of random tech. He isn't attached to his creations in the sense of "I need credit how dare they steal it" but more "I love doing science for the pure discovery" and once discovery is finished, he moves on to the next. Perhaps he's the one to make sure Simon's transformation is safe / done properly / reassure Simon?


If Wonder Man is a failed actor, perhaps his agent? Goes from trying hard to find them work to suddenly it being very easy because the agent was able to "sell" Simon having powers as a wow factor for potential clients, and it snowballs from there. Neal Saroyan was used in the comics to parody Hollywood, could do him.

Then we can have an exasperated CFO? Someone older kind of like Eric's (or Simon's) Stane depending on which brother starts as the CEO, except they are the moral one in this story, caring about the business itself and is removed/fired as an obstacle to the Maggia infiltration? Perhaps the original Williams Innovations was built on the back of the trio of the above quirky scientist character on the science side, this CFO character on the business side, and Eric & Simon's late father as a mix between the two?
 
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Nystical said:
You may see this as a bad thing but it is our chance to come up with interesting side characters that could become part of Marvel comics in-universe.

Perhaps have a quirky/wacky head scientist at Williams Innovations? (Hired before the Maggia infiltration and unaware of it) Because neither Eric or Simon or Maggia are scientists themselves. Genius scientist potentially rivaling Stark but doesn't really think about what is marketable / profitable, just researches whatever random thing he can think of on that day. A happier, wackier, much more optimistic person than Hank Pym. Like Robin Williams in Flubber.


If Wonder Man is a failed actor, perhaps his agent? Goes from trying hard to find them work to suddenly it being very easy because the agent was able to "sell" Simon having powers as a wow factor for potential clients, and it snowballs from there.

Then we can have an exasperated CFO? Someone older kind of like Eric (or Simon's) Stane depending on which brother starts as the CEO, except they are the moral one in this story, caring about the business itself and is removed/fired as an obstacle to the Maggia infiltration?
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I don't see it as a bad thing, it's just that I think the movie is kind of empty with, as of now, just three characters that play major parts in it. That being said, I like the idea of creating new characters for the movie.
 
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Marvel liking Odin enough to want him to be in the center stage more has me thinking that down the line we could adapt the 'Fear Itself' storyline as a movie. It's been a long time since I've read it but I do remember it had cool Odin moments. Such as the ending between Odin and Tony.
 
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Try not to Miss - Production and Post-Production: Hawkeye (December 2009)
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    • The Winning Vote said:
    [X] [Reshoot] No reshoot. Greenlight to release.
    - [X] [Reshoot] When: October 23rd
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    Technical Aspect

    Production Quality:     110
    VFX: 28
    Choreography: 94
    Sound Design: 67
    Editing: 66

    You gave Stahelski and Leitch as much support as you could, you made sure to clear any small issues that may crop up, and you even made sure to help them find the best teams that would work with the limited amount of budget that Marvel was willing to cough up for this adventure into producing a film about a powerless superhero.

    You could have saved yourself the effort as they seemed to have the situation well in hand.

    Production went swimmingly, finishing just before the holidays, with barely any effort. It seems that all those years working with other Directors actually helped them learn the do's and don'ts in theory. Putting it into practice may have been a bit rough, but they managed to handle it well enough.

    It was the VFX (BLOODY VFX!!!) which once more manages to nearly screw up the pooch. It was a good thng that this movie didn't really nearly as much as te other three you've done on it, but you still need it to be a bit better than what you were given. As it is, the weapons of both Swordsman and Silent just doesn't hold up. Seriously, you were laughing out loud seeing Jean Reno trying to fight with what looked like a very badly renditioned pipe.

    He wasn't laughing that much though.

    The highspot however has to be the choreography and stuntwork. Chad has outdone himself, you swear you haven't seen so many brutal yet beautifully choreographed fights as here. The entire movie is fight after fight with action everywhere that in now way arms the mystery and Spy Games going around.

    The sounds were acceptable, even if the music felt a bit generic and not that memorable, and at least the editing wasn't completely jarring, so all in all, you'd say that for all this being their first Directed movie, they did a pretty good job.

    ..If only it wasn't for that bloody VFX team!!!

    Protagonists

    Karl Urban Screen Presence:     80

    Karl Urban was a man with something to prove. Neither you nor Chad and David had made it a secret that you'd hoped for Jensen Ackles to take the role, and in the en he had to be second best. From there he made it his mission to prove that he was not Jensen's replacement, but the true and logical choice for the role. And in that he very well succeeded.

    His Hawkeye is, to put it in simple terms, amazing. He's made sure to, if not do his own stunts, at least do most of them. He's trained himself to the point that he can be well and ready for nearly all scenes, being the first to arrive and the last leaving. it's more than clear that he wants to prove that he can be as good, if not better, than the competition.

    This mimics in some ways his rendition of Hawkeye; A man with pride driving him, who fears no one and constantly butts heads with authority. He has the talent, he has the drive, but lacks the spirit of teamwork and the heroic nature that would push him into becoming one of the World's Mightiest Heroes. In a way this is his origin story, cleverly hidden within a Spy story.

    Not bad at all.

    Samuel L. Jackson Screen Presence: 104

    Samuel L. Jackson had nearly made it a condition to be cast as Nick Fury in exchange for using his image in the Ultimate Comics, so of course he would jump at the chance to have a larger role than just a single Cameo in the Iron Man movie.

    Even so it surprised you to see how much the role truly fit him. You could not see the full Fury in Iron Man, and he was determined to make up for it here. He comes out as a badass, one that knows and sees everything, who can easily whip your ass 7 ways from Sunday if you only give him the excuse, and a terrifying man to have as your enemy. His dedication to S.H.I.E.L.D. and protecting humanity coming second to none.

    Protagonist Chemistry: 50

    Their interactions is nothing to brag about, but at the same time it's not something that can be called terrible. It's average if you have to call it in some way. Yo can even see what they're going for her, like the interactions between a police commissioner with the loose cannon cops that were the rage back in the 80's. Only played seriously and with actual stakes this time.

    Antagonists

    Jean Reno Screen Presence: 75

    Jean Reno's take as Jacques Duquesne went above expectations. With experiences in playing the villain in several occasions he could easily play the part of the arrogant, prideful, yet also skilled former agent. The fact that Yayan was around to give some aid also helped, he man suggesting some movements and techniques which would look impressive on screen and need hardly much effort.

    In the end, Jacques Duquesne comes as a veteran of a hundred battles, one that has seen it all and is still there to tell the tale.

    Yayan Ruhian Screen Presence: 91

    When you hired him you expected him to be on a few scenes aside from the climactic middle fight, yet he has managed so much in so little time that there is already a petition to keep him free to appear later on. Of all the obscure character marvel owns, no one would have thought that the mercenary ho died on his first appearance would become a favorite.

    It's easy to see, the man looks scary when he's not talking, add to that the brutal way he fights and you'd be hard pressed not to think of him as a badass.

    Gemma Arterton Screen Presence: 56

    Oh Gemma…She did her best, bless her heart, yet at the end of the day she comes as someone trying, yet failing, to keep up when it comes to fighting. Yayan tried giving some counsel and tips for her fighting scenes, but in the end it's very difficult for her when so far all her acting has not required her to fight as much as this movie.

    At least the scenes where she interacts with the other are good, more than good on some. The past relationship that she had with Clint is noticeable in their familiarity, and their banter can be so easily misconstrued if you look at it at a right angle.

    Antagonist Chemistry: 51

    At least the dynamic is decent if nothing else. The scenes between Jacques and Natasha have gained an almost hostile tone which plays well to their eventual falling out. Silent still remains without speaking, but can emote with the best of them, and when the interaction between Jacques and Clint has enough emotion so as to convince the movie goers that they were close once.

    In between the Production and Post-Production you'd girded yourself and prepared for what you were sure was going to be the fight of a lifetime. It had been just a few months when Favreau had convinced you to use what influence you had to convince both the Committee and Ike that using Mockingbird in the future Iron man sequel was the right move. You were not confident about your chances, but perhaps using the small leverage you'd gained at Marvel itself could level out the playing field somewhat.

    Negotiations Roll: 80

    It was a hard battle, between meetings, memos, and even more than ine argument about the need to include an underrated character into what very well may be the flagship franchise of the entire MCU. However, it seemed that things were at a deadlock when your erstwhile allies finally struck.

    Jim McCann, writer for Marvel and longtime supporter for the character of Mockingbird (he was the one who had argued for her return during the Secret Invasion Event) began an entire campaign in Marvel to have her appear in the movies, arguing about the need to include what was essentially "the other half of what made Hawkeye so successful". Perhaps he was aggrandizing a bit, but the language struck a chord with many of the marvel Execs who clearly still remembered the time of the West Coast Avengers and how the conflict between the two of them had been one of the cornerstones of the initial success of the series.

    Jim did not let up, at many points mentioning how joining back the "Mr. and Mrs. Smith of Marvel" together again would certainly invigorate sells of the New Avengers line, as well as the upcoming Hawkeye and Mockingbird line in the works.

    That seemed to be what decided it all, the idea of increasing sales and profits for the comic books brought them to see reason and give their approval to have Mocking bird join the MCU.

    At the time however, all you could think was "There's going to be a Hawkeye and Mockingbird comic?!"

    Barbara 'Bobbi' Morse joins the MCU!

    At the end, the executives went through the movie with a comb, making darn sure that the movie would produce what they want. In the end they give it their approval, though they came to you with a request.

    So far the character of Silent is more popular than the Black Widow, and they are not as impressed as Gemma's performance as they have been with Yayan. As such they want you do some reshooting to have them replaced, giving Silent the role of connection and Free Agent, and putting Black Widow as the replaceable ally of Jacques.

    Needless to say, you nearly exploded on the spot.

    [] [Replacement] Make the changes so that Silent becomes the Free Agent and Natasha the underling of Jacques.
    [] [Replacement] Do not make the changes, Black Widow and Silent will remain where they are.

    With the decision made, you made sure to check what do for the Post-Credit Scenes.

    [] [Mid-Credit] Add a scene of Fury contacting Mockingbird about her next assignment as he reads the Howard Stark file.
    [] [Mid-Credit] You have another idea for a Mid-Credit Scene (Write In)

    Should you also add a Post-Credit Scene as well? Perhaps something for the next movie?

    [] [Post-Credit] Yes, I have an idea that I want to add (Write In)
    [] [Post-Credit] No, I don't have an idea.

    Marvel wants you to release the movie before March.

    (You have 3 rerolls)
    [ ] [Reshoot] Reshoot to improve a roll.
    -[ ] Reroll what result? (Write-in)
    [ ] [Reshoot] Intense Focus on a single roll (+10).
    -[ ] Where should you focus? (Write-in)

    [ ] [Scene] Add or change a story element in the movie.
    -[ ] Add or change what?

    [ ] [Reshoot] Delay the movie to reshoot (Negotiation Roll)
    -[ ] Reroll what result and how many? (Write-in)
    -[ ] Add or change what? (Write-in)

    [ ] [Reshoot] No reshoot. Greenlight to release.
    - [] [Reshoot] When: Write In

    A.N: This update fought me tooth and nail, and I still don't find it good enough. Hope you guys like it.
     
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    • [] [Mid-Credit] Add a scene of Fury contacting Mockingbird about her next assignment as he reads the Howard Stark file.

    [] [Reshoot] Reshoot to improve a roll.
    -[] VFX
    -[] Gemma Arterton
    [] [Reshoot] Intense Focus on a single roll (+10).
    -[] Karl Urban

    VFX needs a reroll. Gemma needs one too. Karl can use a +10 as the protagonist and future avenger.
     
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    [] [Replacement] Make the changes so that Silent becomes the Free Agent and Natasha the underling of Jacques.

    I don't care which plan we're going for, just don't vote for this! This is just the dumbest idea I've ever heard.

    By the way, @overmind, is Silent dead in the movie?
     
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    Duke William of said:
    [] [Replacement] Do not make the changes, Black Widow and Silent will remain where they are.

    I don't care which plan we're going for, just don't vote for this! This is just the dumbest idea I've ever heard.

    By the way, @overmind, is Silent dead in the movie?
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    He made such an impression that they kept him alive for the future.

    Also, are you saying not to vote for keeping things as they are? Because that's what it seems.
     
    But yeah, my thought is... two VFX and one Black Widow?

    And if the VFX scores over 60, then if there's a leftover VFX, plow it into Black Widow? And obviously, if BW's second roll is worse than the first, we keep the first.
     
    By the way, does this mean Karl isn't McCoy in the Kelvinverse Star Trek films?

    Edit: No wait. That came out in May 2009, which is when our casting call went out probably. Never mind
     
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