There is no emotion... (A Jedi Order Quest)

Can we maybe give him to a different master to train?

Also, I guess after finishing off Let's Just Be Friends, we should put the remaining 3 points into pushing Masters' Trial closer to completion.
 
Not much to say about research or holocron, continuing on Master's Trials and Nomi's holocron.

As for Kador, I'd have to say no. Kador is too emotionally compromised and no reason for preferential treatment.
 
1. Why is the other first tier option offered? Isn't it mutually exclusive with the option that was taken?

2. While it's true that the brothers probably need to be given some time apart does it have to be now? Like could we let the guy train the brother up to the level of padawan and then assign him to a different master for polishing? Or hell we could tell them to not worry about it so much, take some time off to chill and sort something out when they've had a chance to decompress a bit?
 
Adaptive and Fast on Their Feet: Your Sentinels might not be quite as blade adept as the Guardians, but they make up for that with a wider skillset. (Sentinels may use Skill instead of Combat against Mundane opponents) (0/20)

I'd say we should work on getting this. We have an abundance of Sentinels on the Council, so I'd say improving their combat effectiveness would be good.
 
I propose a write in compromise vote on Kador's brother, QM willing:

[] Write in: His brother's master should be another Jedi because family do not always make the best teachers, but Kador will be allowed to supplement his brother's instruction and patrol schedules arranged so they can spend plenty of time together.

The eight of you, the newest Jedi Council, gather in your whole number for the first time in what seems like a very long, even though it has been scarcely a year.

Your deal with Corellia is over, thank the stars, meaning all the research and knowledge you gain is for your wholesome use; at the end, about six potential major colonies had been discovered, along with a plethora of resource rich mining worlds.
'a very long' -> 'a very long time'

'wholesome' -> 'sole'

'had been' -> 'have been'

'new Jedi-- ' -> 'new Jedi - '

'Detachement' -> 'Detachment'
 
It's not the nepotism, it's the lack of objectivity. I imagine Juhani and Bastila were around Revan when he discovered the stories of the Qel-Droma brothers and unlocked Jolee Bindo's Tragic Backstory.

Doesn't mean he can't be involved in his brother's training. We'd expect it. Maybe even a little brotherly horseplay with Force Pushes out in a sparring field.

We have no Jedi Councillor Consular Counselors, and I'm sure his brother desperately needs therapy. Perhaps we should see about training a Jedi Consular Counselor to the point they can pass Master Trials, join the decision-making-group, and become a Jedi Councillor Consular Counselor so we would have one, but that's a matter for another time.

Perhaps Mical would be willing to study the ways of the therapists (he does thinky and talky and likes them), so that he can go from being a Councillor Consular to a Councillor Consular Counselor, but now I'm really just stretching these homonyms as far as they can go.
 
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It's not the nepotism, it's the lack of objectivity.
Not to mention that teacher/student is a necessarily hierarchical relationship. At times a teacher might need to be firm with a student about not doing things that are dangerous or what have you. Brothers might be much more used to seeing one another as equals. Adopting a teacher/student relationship could even damage their brotherly bond, which is a good way to explain a denial gently to Kador.
 
1. Why is the other first tier option offered? Isn't it mutually exclusive with the option that was taken?

2. While it's true that the brothers probably need to be given some time apart does it have to be now? Like could we let the guy train the brother up to the level of padawan and then assign him to a different master for polishing? Or hell we could tell them to not worry about it so much, take some time off to chill and sort something out when they've had a chance to decompress a bit?
1. So you can vote to switch to use it.

2. He's self-taught enough that he essentially knows what your Initiates would and is ready to take the next step. At most he needs a bit of straightening out on the weirder fundamentals.

I propose a write in compromise vote on Kador's brother, QM willing:

[] Write in: His brother's master should be another Jedi because family do not always make the best teachers, but Kador will be allowed to supplement his brother's instruction and patrol schedules arranged so they can spend plenty of time together.


'a very long' -> 'a very long time'

'wholesome' -> 'sole'

'had been' -> 'have been'

'new Jedi-- ' -> 'new Jedi - '

'Detachement' -> 'Detachment'
Thank you. Let me chew over the Write-In for a minute, I'll answer after my shower.
 
I wouldn't mind them sticking together on patrols. That sort of assurance that your brother is safe/has your back could be a huge benefit. That said, having him as a teacher seems more likely to lead to authority issues, resentment, etc,
 
You are most welcome :)

Does anyone have thoughts on the write in, by the way? It seems to me like it has a good shot at keeping the brothers happy while also ensuring there's objective adult supervision just in case.
To retain a brother dynamic while still allowing teaching is a good idea. I like it a lot.
 
Facilities:
Dantooine Praxeum(468/500) (Generalist Facility) (Population 97/200)
(6 Jedi Masters, 4 Jedi Sentinels, 2 Jedi Consulars, 17 Jedi Padawans, 68 Initiates)

Telos Academy (Guardian Enclave)(125/300)(7/25)
(1 Jedi Master Sage, 3 Jedi Guardians, 3 Initiates)

Ossus Praxeum(General Facility) (364/500) (11/250)
(6 Jedi Sentinels, 1 Jedi Master Watchman, 4 Jedi Padawans)

Ilum (General Facility) (103/300) (3/15)
(1 Jedi Guardian, 2 Jedi Sentinels)

Coruscant (Ruined Temple) (203/300) (32/1000)
(5 Jedi Consulars, 4 Jedi Guardians, 3 Jedi Sentinels, 4 Jedi Padawans, 17 Initiates)

What are the differences between the Jedi Master sage/sentinel compared to the regular masters?
 
To retain a brother dynamic while still allowing teaching is a good idea. I like it a lot.
The only failure mode I can think of is Kador pushing to teach things that the master doesn't want to be taught yet. Hopefully that could be prevented by choosing a master carefully and Kador being mature about it.
 
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Does anyone have thoughts on the write in, by the way? It seems to me like it has a good shot at keeping the brothers happy while also ensuring there's objective adult supervision just in case.
Looks good to me. They get to be brothers while getting proper training.
What are the differences between the Jedi Master sage/sentinel compared to the regular masters?
Stats.
15 Jedi Sentinel (C2 W3 S3 D3 V3 H4)
9 Jedi Guardian (C4 W3 S2 D4 V1 H5)
7 Jedi Consular (C1 W5 S2 D5 V4 H3)
We don't know how what they'll exactly are for Masters, since none of our students have reached that level yet.
 
What are the differences between the Jedi Master sage/sentinel compared to the regular masters?
They're the Prestige Jedi Consular and Sentinel respectively.

That said, as they are unique being members of the Council, that takes precedence over the Prestige thing, if you get me?

I haven't decided for the 6 other members quite yet, though.
 
Oh man, why do you have to make this hard on us. Such a harsh decision when it comes to recruiting the brother. One the one hand, the guy is a great and noble person who survived slavery and is force sensitive, so with the right guidance he could be great. On the other hand, it's still nepotism and I don't know what kind of message it will send to others across the galaxy.

As for the 8 points, we should split them into 4 for both "Let's Just Be Friends" and "Master's Trial" so that we will have advancements in both areas. As for the holocron I say Sunrider because she is one of the most well known and powerful Jedi in history and we already have a 1/3 progress there, therefore we should continue said progress.
 
Oh man, why do you have to make this hard on us. Such a harsh decision when it comes to recruiting the brother. One the one hand, the guy is a great and noble person who survived slavery and is force sensitive, so with the right guidance he could be great. On the other hand, it's still nepotism and I don't know what kind of message it will send to others across the galaxy.
If I'm reading what @Voikirium wrote correctly, it goes like this: if we let Kador train his brother we 100% get the brother, but if we don't there's a chance we won't. It's preferable, IMO, to get the brother while not having Kador train him, but not getting the brother is something we can afford, while I don't think we can afford the mess letting Kador train the brother will no doubt cause.
 
[X] Plan Too Tired to Think Of A Name, Just Finished Exam
-[x] Write in: His brother's master should be another Jedi because family do not always make the best teachers, but Kador will be allowed to supplement his brother's instruction and patrol schedules arranged so they can spend plenty of time together.
-[x] Holocron of Nomi Sunrider (1/3)
-[x] Masters' Trial: +8 to 14/20.

I think the write in probably gives us better odds than just outright refusal, and it's fair to everyone without being careless.

As for how to distribute the research points, if we divide them up between the two things we've got some points in we'll probably delay getting one for longer, so it's less efficient. (We don't have the points to buy either one outright.)

Also I don't expect a war to kick off in the immediate future, so improving detachment can probably wait more than Master's Trial can, which will definitely be useful soon.

And since we get bonuses from finishing holocrons continuing with Nomi is pretty much a no-brainer.
 
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