If people are still asking about stuff that you already explained...I think you'll get better results with a fakkyu.
The Taste of Peaches (Worm AU)
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Crazael
Rehydrated Demon King
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All we know is that the hand that pushed her was bigger than Emma's or Sophia's, and that they were present when it happened.
Thought it was implied to be male.
After all, women's hands likely wouldn't be larger than theirs...
Most women I should say.
ConfusedPotato
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I have a solution.
It is called, Alcohol-Induced-Stupidity.
I read them, all of them.
I can never remember which FAQ goes with which story, but I read them.
Crazael
Rehydrated Demon King
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An implication is not the same as a known fact. It probably was a male hand. My guess is someone on the track team. But we don't know anything about it other than it was larger than either Emma's or Sophia's.
LostArchivist
Sane, unfortunately.
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Okay, I know I took a while getting back to reading this, but 38 pages past the chapter?!
...I have to wonder why those designs were even present. Is that so there's a "worse" category for the mind to discard to avoid getting rid of wanted designs? Or perhaps it was just in case she'd want something bizarre, or get inspired? Or did he just not vet the pile and it's normal design methodology to use the spaghetti method?
I'm guessing that the real reason for Amy's headache is that she tried to comprehend an OCP, though. Taylor's powers don't care about physics in the first place, so I imagine there's a mountain of biocrystal somewhere that decided to share its own headache.
(And also because it would be cheating if she were outed so easily.
)
"I'm blind!"
--Random scanner, 2011.
That said, this is honestly weird. I wonder if it's really her own power noticing "Hey, you shouldn't be working, your mother was a hamster, and your father was Halbeard" or if it's because it's trying to, again, interact with an outside context problem. Perhaps the physics bullshit feels inferior when it is exposed to superior bullshit.
I mean, she didn't blow up anything that wasn't a scanner, and I really don't buy that a power can make something miraculously disobey physics while not using some sort of active effect that can be power-nullified.
Or maybe that's just a common quip...
I mean, everyone is commenting on this to her! And it has a negative armor value!
Is this because of that fertility aspect, Inari brainwashing her with magical girl anime, or some sort of insanity aura that radiates from Glenn?
Even if someone ran through there with ill intent and actually revealed their identities, they wouldn't get a kill order. They'd just be dogpiled by all the villains and whatever heroes can get away with something off the books. There's not any sort of official protocol to off people with forbidden knowledge (Cauldron doesn't count); the worst that happens is that the intruder gets unmasked to the people they found out about. And even if we go by the Stalker incident and Skitter's later capture by Alexandria (and so forth) from canon, I get the impression that things are not normally handled that way.
Personally I suspect it's comedic immunity failure on the part of whatever supplies divine powers.
This is honestly sounding like something from the SCP foundation.
...How the heck did anything manage to spit out a copper plaque? If that was supposed to be any sort of conventional printer, ignoring the fact that there's no way to carve anything, the feed usually has a bend in it!
(Yes, I know that's the point, but the impossibility is funny.)
Also, how long is it going to be before she either makes comprehensible "Tinkertech" or that trident gets bored with being cooed over and leaves to find its rightful owner?
(Hey! Get back here! You can't just leave the chapter with that!)
Or what sort of explanation this really should have. Is Vicky now Our Fair Lady of Collateral Damage? The first member of Corentine's eventual harem? A shrine maiden (one would think the latter would be Amy, if so, not the one with weaponized narcissism*)?
And since how (and when, and why) are fluffy tails contagious? Not that it's necessarily a bad thing, but...
I guess it's so the PRT can have actual kittens?
*Shamelessly stolen. I forget who originally said it, though.
Also, not to argue the tinkertech argument too much, but I think the intended interpretation was that you normally can't make something vastly different from a microwave or a clock/timer with parts from a kitchen microwave (unless you just reuse the keypad/leds, of course, but then the primary set of parts isn't from the microwave). Not that tinkertech is made of materials that shouldn't work. I think what Wildbow's explanation was supposed to mean was that they use parts that wouldn't work in that place (as drop-in parts, anyway), but their power, rather than make things miraculously work, changes, tweaks, or transmutes the parts' internals so that they do work, just not the way the Tinker thinks they do (since it's no longer what they started with). Even for things that aren't changed, I'd imagine that the power also purposely over-optimizes for things, like when that researcher ran a genetic algorithm on an FPGA to create a tone-recognizer and ended up with a circuit that shouldn't make any sort of sense, but worked anyway through some sort of magnetic or charge coupling.
Take the quartz complaint; perhaps quartz shouldn't work--if it were pure quartz. I'd imagine it's doped somewhere with the actual active materials, or that some tiny sliver had them added by the power so that it functions, but that quartz would normally break the design if someone were to try building their own. Perhaps her power complained because it was comparing the fact that it worked with what she knew externally of the design (I can't imagine licking the surface of the quartz would tell her that, inside, there's a platinum-rhodium inclusion doped with invar, for example), and the failure was that she imposed her own understanding of the design (see "another potential reason" below) on the entire system when it was the inner parts she wasn't aware of that worked. Or, again, that it was just the scanners because to comprehend her presence causes even inanimate objects to go mad from the revelation.
(Another potential reason is that her sense of technology works on a conceptual level from what the maker(s) of the device understand about it (which would actually fit with her other abilities); thus, when near the scanner, she senses how Armsmaster thinks it works, which is of course, wrong, since his power goes behind his back and swaps out bits until it works like it tells him it does, and this conflicts with what she knows.)
Note: Should you (or anyone else I guess) adopt this as canon or a story element you may copy from this block (the area below the [hr]) with my permission.
Very true.
...I have to wonder why those designs were even present. Is that so there's a "worse" category for the mind to discard to avoid getting rid of wanted designs? Or perhaps it was just in case she'd want something bizarre, or get inspired? Or did he just not vet the pile and it's normal design methodology to use the spaghetti method?
I think that's intentional, but it kinda looks like it might be a formatting error.
leading to the bulk storage?
That's a bizarre power interaction. Hopefully this doesn't happen to anyone she touches while she has a headache.
I'm guessing that the real reason for Amy's headache is that she tried to comprehend an OCP, though. Taylor's powers don't care about physics in the first place, so I imagine there's a mountain of biocrystal somewhere that decided to share its own headache.
Suspicious power interaction is suspicious.
(And also because it would be cheating if she were outed so easily.
)"Behold my divine presence!"
"I'm blind!"
--Random scanner, 2011.
That said, this is honestly weird. I wonder if it's really her own power noticing "Hey, you shouldn't be working, your mother was a hamster, and your father was Halbeard" or if it's because it's trying to, again, interact with an outside context problem. Perhaps the physics bullshit feels inferior when it is exposed to superior bullshit.
I mean, she didn't blow up anything that wasn't a scanner, and I really don't buy that a power can make something miraculously disobey physics while not using some sort of active effect that can be power-nullified.
Yay! I have a cameo! Now if only I weren't a random mook and apparently genderflipped.
Or maybe that's just a common quip...
I have to wonder when she's going to have a sudden flash of sanity and realize she's going out in a miniskirt and bikini, or whatever absurdly embarrassing thing they've picked now.
I mean, everyone is commenting on this to her! And it has a negative armor value!
Is this because of that fertility aspect, Inari brainwashing her with magical girl anime, or some sort of insanity aura that radiates from Glenn?
I'm not so sure it works that way. And as a Ward I can't imagine they wouldn't explain this. Unless she's exaggerating massively...
Even if someone ran through there with ill intent and actually revealed their identities, they wouldn't get a kill order. They'd just be dogpiled by all the villains and whatever heroes can get away with something off the books. There's not any sort of official protocol to off people with forbidden knowledge (Cauldron doesn't count); the worst that happens is that the intruder gets unmasked to the people they found out about. And even if we go by the Stalker incident and Skitter's later capture by Alexandria (and so forth) from canon, I get the impression that things are not normally handled that way.
That sounds terrifying and also hilarious.
How is she more immune to the spice than the remnants of a goddess accompanying her? Also congrats, you've discovered foxfire!
Personally I suspect it's comedic immunity failure on the part of whatever supplies divine powers.
She's never going to live that down. Vista gets no credit, apparently.
Now we know that her powers are screwing with people (or scanners, anyway. The people are a bonus).
This is honestly sounding like something from the SCP foundation.
...How the heck did anything manage to spit out a copper plaque? If that was supposed to be any sort of conventional printer, ignoring the fact that there's no way to carve anything, the feed usually has a bend in it!
(Yes, I know that's the point, but the impossibility is funny.)
See? It's only scanners. I hold that it's simply that they saw her true presence, and in their comprehension, failed.
Also, how long is it going to be before she either makes comprehensible "Tinkertech" or that trident gets bored with being cooed over and leaves to find its rightful owner?
I'm not sure that this should be so simply accepted by sane people...
(Hey! Get back here! You can't just leave the chapter with that!)
Or what sort of explanation this really should have. Is Vicky now Our Fair Lady of Collateral Damage? The first member of Corentine's eventual harem? A shrine maiden (one would think the latter would be Amy, if so, not the one with weaponized narcissism*)?
And since how (and when, and why) are fluffy tails contagious? Not that it's necessarily a bad thing, but...
I guess it's so the PRT can have actual kittens?
*Shamelessly stolen. I forget who originally said it, though.
Also, not to argue the tinkertech argument too much, but I think the intended interpretation was that you normally can't make something vastly different from a microwave or a clock/timer with parts from a kitchen microwave (unless you just reuse the keypad/leds, of course, but then the primary set of parts isn't from the microwave). Not that tinkertech is made of materials that shouldn't work. I think what Wildbow's explanation was supposed to mean was that they use parts that wouldn't work in that place (as drop-in parts, anyway), but their power, rather than make things miraculously work, changes, tweaks, or transmutes the parts' internals so that they do work, just not the way the Tinker thinks they do (since it's no longer what they started with). Even for things that aren't changed, I'd imagine that the power also purposely over-optimizes for things, like when that researcher ran a genetic algorithm on an FPGA to create a tone-recognizer and ended up with a circuit that shouldn't make any sort of sense, but worked anyway through some sort of magnetic or charge coupling.
Take the quartz complaint; perhaps quartz shouldn't work--if it were pure quartz. I'd imagine it's doped somewhere with the actual active materials, or that some tiny sliver had them added by the power so that it functions, but that quartz would normally break the design if someone were to try building their own. Perhaps her power complained because it was comparing the fact that it worked with what she knew externally of the design (I can't imagine licking the surface of the quartz would tell her that, inside, there's a platinum-rhodium inclusion doped with invar, for example), and the failure was that she imposed her own understanding of the design (see "another potential reason" below) on the entire system when it was the inner parts she wasn't aware of that worked. Or, again, that it was just the scanners because to comprehend her presence causes even inanimate objects to go mad from the revelation.
(Another potential reason is that her sense of technology works on a conceptual level from what the maker(s) of the device understand about it (which would actually fit with her other abilities); thus, when near the scanner, she senses how Armsmaster thinks it works, which is of course, wrong, since his power goes behind his back and swaps out bits until it works like it tells him it does, and this conflicts with what she knows.)
For chemistry, it might switch isomers or perhaps set up some sort of molecule that you wouldn't normally get from that mix of chemicals (much less that method of combining them), but is still made from them. Without a power, the yield would plummet or other chemicals would react first. For electronics, it may use defects in components for effects that wouldn't be normally possible, it might swap out systems wholesale where they aren't visible, or perhaps it optimizes so much that every parts' minor differences have to be matched with that of every other part. And so on and so forth. As someone getting into the field, electronics manufacturing is a lot more complicated than you'd think, and we really use only a tiny subset of electrical interactions to build nearly everything. In part that's because CMOS logic is more efficient (usually), but also because we simply haven't used some of the other options, so no one's familiar with them.
I do suspect that the powers may well keep parts working if they would normally burn out instantly too, or at least do so for a while before it needs "maintenance" or some other form of tuning. Perhaps there are also times they cheat a bit more obviously by substituting function with space magic, but I don't think it would normally be so obvious. (I imagine the powers leave confusion, like with the FPGA example, rather than make stuff that blatantly shouldn't work like swapping materials wholesale.)
I do suspect that the powers may well keep parts working if they would normally burn out instantly too, or at least do so for a while before it needs "maintenance" or some other form of tuning. Perhaps there are also times they cheat a bit more obviously by substituting function with space magic, but I don't think it would normally be so obvious. (I imagine the powers leave confusion, like with the FPGA example, rather than make stuff that blatantly shouldn't work like swapping materials wholesale.)
Note: Should you (or anyone else I guess) adopt this as canon or a story element you may copy from this block (the area below the [hr]) with my permission.
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@LostArchivist Actually, it has been explained that the reason Tinkertech breaks down when it tries to scan Taylor is because she has a partially awakened domain of Industry.
So when Tinkertech tries to analyze her, that domain tells it, "Technology doesn't work that way", and the Tinkertech scanner in question just breaks down upon realizing this.
Also note that the first time this happened, Taylor started taking apart Halbeard's scanner and analyzing what parts would be needed to change it from Tinkertech to Ridiculously Advanced Actual Science. If she can fully awaken her Industry domain, Taylor's gonna start a new Industrial Revolution with that sort of thing.
Just as one would expect from a Goddess~ Off my keyboard, Inari!
So when Tinkertech tries to analyze her, that domain tells it, "Technology doesn't work that way", and the Tinkertech scanner in question just breaks down upon realizing this.
Also note that the first time this happened, Taylor started taking apart Halbeard's scanner and analyzing what parts would be needed to change it from Tinkertech to Ridiculously Advanced Actual Science. If she can fully awaken her Industry domain, Taylor's gonna start a new Industrial Revolution with that sort of thing.
Just as one would expect from a Goddess~ Off my keyboard, Inari!
LostArchivist
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My whole argument was that it does work that way. It's just that making it that way would fail, not that the science of the completed product is wrong. (It's just that the completed product isn't actually made the way that the tinker thinks it is--and really, why would the power even try to explain things properly? All it needs is someone to give it the chemical elements for the design (usually in things that conveniently contain them or are similar) and the power then directs the tinker to build it or arranges bits all on its own. Explaining it would make it replicable!)
I did read that post by the author, disagreed, and in my opinion, even have a way that the story as written could work with my explanation. It could be that that's how it works here, but I'm saying that the interpretation of canonical Tinkertech is likely wrong and that the given explanation isn't necessary.
Please note, I have edited a few things here for clarification, so if anyone has quoted this before 9:48a it may be slightly different.
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New reader and also startled by this. This thread practically doubled in size since the last chapter. There was nowhere near that amount before that.
Is there canon omakes in between or...?
(Just wondering why so much posting and if I should bother reading them)
No, just a great deal of speculation by us about what's going to happen next and what Taylor is capable of.
Crazael
Rehydrated Demon King
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it's mostly just people theorizing about stuff and discussing various ideas.
Edit: And about a dozen pages of arguing about the specific nature of kitsune in Japanese folklore and what changes this story will make for the purpose of narrative sense.
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Grounders10
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Every time I turn around thinking this thread has finally gone quiet (I'm working on other projects atm. this has not been abandoned!) it starts up again. o.o I have no idea WHY. This story took off to mad levels o.o
"Because goddess~" seems like the best explanation.
Because you created an interesting world with near infinite possibilities and we can throw thousands of ideas at it?
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because you have alot of cliffhangers and not-yet explained plot threads.......(or at least one very large one in the form of what/how/when these god power(s) work).
Because it's actually a very well written and quite funny to read. It has zero grim-dark to it, and that's something that I personally quite enjoy reading in a Worm story.
Windborne
Devourer of Stories
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It's because of your various stories The Taste of Peaches is probably the most interesting of them all, it's not grim dark, it has FLOOFY tails, Taylor isn't dating a guy (which by the way NONE of the unattached guys in Worm are worthy of her fluffiness, pair her with Lisa please), Taylor has the potential to be an absolute badass but she's being adorkable while she tries to reach it, it has fluffy tails, the fun has yet to really begin yet (you've had like no action yet, the fact that this is so popular despite that fact should be telling you something) and did I mention her tails?
Seriously if you haven't realized why yet, it's because this story has potential out the wazoo. I review stories professionally, and this is probably one of my most anticipated stories out of the tens of thousands I wait for updates for regularly and that's including stuff like Brandon Sanderson's work who I hold as my personal gold standard. This particular story ranks in the top hundred in terms of potential. That's not an easy spot to attain.
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It's well written , you have a good balance of establishing plot, character, and humor. You've built up a number of good plot hooks for the story as it progresses. You're having Taylor become a goddess, something that (to my best knowledge) has only been done in one other story. Also there is much floof and we all await when there will be some fluffy tail touching!
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- She, her
Inari ... Stop stealing the poor redheads phone please.
Also the speculation is fun to run with. Although I can not wait for Vicky to whine at Taylor for her new Parts.
Edit: Collateral Damage Duo is my ship so far.
If she can explain it, and lets scientists progress, 'that' will boggle minds.