- Location
- The Midlands.
Why are they even a separate organisation anyway? Although I'm aware that posse commitatus and jurisdictional weirdness makes US law-enforcement... complicated even without adding parahumans to the problem.
The Taste of Peaches (Worm AU)
- Thread starter Grounders10
- Start date
- Location
- Russia
So that's why it's considered okay to say "Негр" in Russian. I've always wondered about that, because while Slavs are on average less sensitive to such personal issues than western cultures (at least, from my experience of how people are like 'round here and over in Kazahkstan), I found it rather unlikely that our culture encouraged insensitive pricks just by default or anything. It encourages many things, but not that.
I assume that she's got more of a Greek Goddess build, mostly because the most obvious option, her form gaining a Shinto Goddess build, would look... well... let's just say that I still find early Japanese Art a wonder.
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- Location
- SoCal
IIRC Inari said they were both being shaped by modern concepts, so I've pictured her as being somewhat like Ahri but more voluptuous due to the fertility aspect.So that's why it's considered okay to say "Негр" in Russian. I've always wondered about that, because while Slavs are on average less sensitive to such personal issues than western cultures (at least, from my experience of how people are like 'round here and over in Kazahkstan), I found it rather unlikely that our culture encouraged insensitive pricks just by default or anything. It encourages many things, but not that.
I assume that she's got more of a Greek Goddess build, mostly because the most obvious option, her form gaining a Shinto Goddess build, would look... well... let's just say that I still find early Japanese Art a wonder.
- Location
- Russia
Personally I think we had more or less racial problems, between heavily arrogant Polish invaders, higly arrogant Mongolian people, very arrogant Chinese, and badly arrogant Caucasian people, Turkish invaders, pretty much every race and nation invaders, and that's not counting Nacist Party of German people headed by Ghitler. Sorry, Fascist, but that name should be reserved for actual Faschists, not that scum. If you actually know the meaning of the word.
Anyway, we survived enough nations wanting to kill us all or make us their slaves, then make them friends or at least friendly, to make us extremely multinational and tolerant to whatever. We are multinational, multiregilious, multi-everything.
Now, with national propaganda done, hopefully answering why most of Russia is so "tolerant", I need to make a token gesture to the on-topic theme. Or mods will actually ban me, which I don't want.
So, adding to my on-topic post. This fic is very good on power. It's probably the best part of it, and while I still think we need more, we need something different. Now that I think about it, more interaction with the Wards or the Protectorate would be nice. Or maybe Director Piggot, now that would be a minefield from both sides. Or maybe Triumph? If I get the time line right, he's still a leader of the Wards. Now that would be epic. Son of the mayor meeting a living hurricane as Piggot named her. Fireworks will fly.
EDIT : I lie. I actually think the best part of it is how Taylor is so very oblivious. It's funny. Unfortunately, it's also very realistic. For destroying Taylor's personal reality, Emma Barnes should have her own Special Hell.
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Stop: Stop: We have rules about how to talk about mod action
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- He/Him
stop: we have rules about how to talk about mod action
@polparohoda has been infracted and threadbanned for a week for violating Rule 5, "Don't Make Our Jobs Harder". Arguing about mod decisions in thread is always disruptive and offtopic; we have numerous other ways of either airing grievances or applying for a change.
@polparohoda has been infracted and threadbanned for a week for violating Rule 5, "Don't Make Our Jobs Harder". Arguing about mod decisions in thread is always disruptive and offtopic; we have numerous other ways of either airing grievances or applying for a change.
Grounders10
Nine-Tailed Kitsune
- Location
- British Columbia, Canada, Mars
We're looking at something along the lines of a teenage Ahri. She's still Taylor, just if Taylor was less like a stick and more like a teenage model. I've avoided specifics to let people draw their own conclusions and to avoid being overly specific on stuff that I'm worried would worry the mods. Basically, I'm trying to be tactful. I may be failing a bit. *Awkward Kitsune is Awkward*
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- Yes
I didn't say her reasons were good, or that the punishment she announced was proportional, but the Wards all deserved some punishment, and given how ridiculous that punishment was and the fact there was no indication it was actually followed through (when there should have been if it was) makes me assume that was piggot screwing up by not thinking things through, and being forced later to back down to a more rational punishment.
It seems I wasn't clear in my comment about cops.
To clarify, Cops, teachers (especially of lower grades) and parents regularly do things that are violations of the Geneva convention for soldiers in time of war to do. If the only argument you have against a certain action is "If this was a war and the victim was a POW that would be a war crime" then you are saying the action was perfectly legitimate.
As an example, demanding POW provide labor to help war efforts is a war crime. Extending that to civilan environments makes asking your kid to run down to the store to buy milk a war crime.
This.
While you're right that the specific anime/manga/games etc...were likely never made I'd like to note several things that would mean the basic imagery and myths would be popularized at least as much:
1)While Japan would be in a much worse economic situation, most of the country is intact so they'd still be producing Anime/Manga/Games, and those they produce, while different than what they do in RL will be a lot cheaper. Note that there was a western market for Anime going back to the 1950s at least.
2)Between Leviathan and the CUI there are a lot of Japanese immigrants in the US who, meaning a lot of people to popularize Japanese culture.
I think it's likely that Japanese culture and myths will be as well known in Worm as they are in RL, if for different reasons.
- Location
- Missouri
Yep. Can confirm, thanks to reading up on war crimes and PoW rights, that the UN classifies being a PoW is a privileged position that affords you extra protections above and beyond your normal legal due process under law.
You can treat your own forces as badly as you can get away with without an uprising.
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- Location
- Louisville KY
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- He/Him
While the story does seem to imply that Armsy momentarily thinks of Taylor before dismissing the thought, it does break SOD that Dragon didn't at least mention it. Personally, I am mentally retconning it to where they are testing it because it is a little fishy(wakka wakka) that a trident just happens to show up at her fathers job and that it has some unknown properties(it shocks people who touch it). It is the job of the good guys to protect the Ward from the suspicious item that could be a trojan horse and harm her.
jwolfe_beta
Semi Genre-Savvy Overlord
- Location
- Canada
Also Armsy's pride/ego won't allow him to just 'give up' before he cracks the secret of this unknown (but obviously Tinker or power-made weapon).
- Location
- Elsewhere
Look, reading between the lines it's obvious that Taylor is made solely of tails and maybe an eye or two.
Like an eldritch abomination, but fluffier.
- Location
- SoCal
And now I'm picturing something like the flying spaghetti monster except more cute and fluffy.
Now I want Riot Games to make a fluffy Vel'Koz skin.
- Location
- Switzerland
Like Sveta, just not as lethal.
Prince Charon
Just zis guy, you know?
Um, which version of posse comitatus do you mean, and what does it have to do with the Protectorate and PRT being separate or semi-separate organizations? For that matter, I have to wonder how separate they are (they may be two separate 'lines' of the same bureaucracy). Does Legend take orders from RCB, or are they technically equals, for example? Is the Protectorate a government agency, or is it a quango supervised by the PRT?
Um, what would qualify as an indicator that it was followed up on? I don't recall anyone assuming that the Wards weren't punished in the way that Piggot outlined.
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the Wards at the time all having a massive debt they have to pay off leaving them with basically no money compared to the wards that join later, the financial issue being mentioned in their records that Weld was reviewing, etc...
Piggot's proposed punishment would mean they'd be paying off those damages for many years, that sort of issue should have , if it was actually implemented, been mentioned on several occasions. The fact that it wasn't makes me think someone got Piggot to back down (Ignoring the Doylist explanation of course).
- Location
- The Midlands.
Protectorate capes are deployed overseas for Endbringer attacks or other S-class threats, but they're still allowed to participate in domestic law-enforcement. That's a thing the Founding Fathers had Opinions about, from what I understand, hence the existence of the National Guard and the amount of paperwork involved in deploying federal troops internally, so it's likely that the Protectorate is only authorised to engage other parahumans or people armed with Tinkertech weapons. The PRT is likely a separate organisation to make it less constiututionally dubious for them to have powers of arrest over mundane humans who are involved in parahuman-related crime indirectly, such as mob bosses with capes on their payroll; the distinction is largely a legal technicality even if Alexandria's secret identity wasn't the head of the PRT, but nobody with the ability to make a court challenge stick seems to have a problem with it.
Satisfaction
brought it back.
That would seem needlessly restrictive - I'd think it's more likely there's some new law or bill that allows Protectorate members to engage S-class threats outside the country and otherwise they're still bound by the no fighting in outside wars thing. Something about general threats to human life or something, fighting an S-class threat isn't equivalent to fighting in a war.
Prince Charon
Just zis guy, you know?
I sort of wonder if Dean got his parents to supplement the Wards' incomes, or left them money in his will (which is another reason why the punishment was stupid).
... I really don't think that's quite how the law works (id est, the law banning the use of the military for law enforcement is post US Civil War, and has nothing to do with forbidding the use of the police externally - we just mostly don't, because we have no reason to, although the NYPD does have spies in other countries). Watsonianly, I really don't think that's the reason that they appear to be separate chains of command, though I'm not sure what a good reason would be. Doylistly, note that Wildbow does not know how US law or law enforcement works.
- Location
- Switzerland
I honestly don't think Piggot could keep Dean from paying the fines. Not that the punishment makes sense in the first place, anyway.
- Location
- Louisville KY
- Pronouns
- He/Him
I'm sorry, what? Regardless of crossover or AU, I'm not really sure of any statement saying that ANY incarnation of Taylor is less lethal than anything. The implication leads to the whole, "ehh, I can take her" fallacy.
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Y'all do realize that the PC act only applies to the federal Army and Air Force, right?
That it does not apply to the Navy, Coast Guard, Space Force, Marines, or any other federal government organization that has a military or paramilitary force?
As for Piggot's docking of the Ward's pay, that violates so many rules and regulations that I can't even name them all. According to WB, the PRT is based on US military system, including a version of the UCMJ.
Now, if it is similar to the one in our world, which it should be, it takes a formal case to dock a person's pay, and the maximum amount of money is two month's pay, taken over four months. To take more than that would require a formal court martial, with prison time if convicted. If, however, the wards are not paramilitary, they can quit. There is no civilian job you can't walk away from, and if you tried to tell a bunch of teenagers that they were going to work for free for years, does anyone honestly believe they wouldn't quit?
It can't work both ways. Either they are in a military force, and are protected, or they are civilian personnel and can quit.
That it does not apply to the Navy, Coast Guard, Space Force, Marines, or any other federal government organization that has a military or paramilitary force?
As for Piggot's docking of the Ward's pay, that violates so many rules and regulations that I can't even name them all. According to WB, the PRT is based on US military system, including a version of the UCMJ.
Now, if it is similar to the one in our world, which it should be, it takes a formal case to dock a person's pay, and the maximum amount of money is two month's pay, taken over four months. To take more than that would require a formal court martial, with prison time if convicted. If, however, the wards are not paramilitary, they can quit. There is no civilian job you can't walk away from, and if you tried to tell a bunch of teenagers that they were going to work for free for years, does anyone honestly believe they wouldn't quit?
It can't work both ways. Either they are in a military force, and are protected, or they are civilian personnel and can quit.
Hmmm I wonder what Amy will think of Taylor and the fact that by all indications she has a budding friendship with her sister.
- Location
- The Midlands.
No, as it happens, I did not. I had assumed that the Coast Guard were an exception but I figured most of the rest had been declared to fall under the same rules by a court decision at some point, on the grounds that there's not a lot of point in having a law like that if the President can get around it just by sending in the Marines put a rebellious province to fire and the sword instead of the Army.
I know, right? The Navy and Marines have regulations against it, but if the joint Chiefs ordered them in , I'm not sure what would happen.
Plus, since the act was created, there have been dozens of federal paramilitary forces created, for everyone from the FBI to Homeland Security, each of which would require a new wording of the law and which would impair the function of the unit as created.