I admit I picked Piggot because she needs something nice done for her considering she herds the cats that are parahumans and deals with an institutional bureaucracy that looks like it's trying very hard to ignore her.

Not to mention, she would make a half-decent aspect of order wouldnt she?
 
I admit I picked Piggot because she needs something nice done for her considering she herds the cats that are parahumans and deals with an institutional bureaucracy that looks like it's trying very hard to ignore her.

Not to mention, she would make a half-decent aspect of order wouldnt she?

she'd be assumed a parahuman and lose her job, though.
 
I admit I picked Piggot because she needs something nice done for her considering she herds the cats that are parahumans and deals with an institutional bureaucracy that looks like it's trying very hard to ignore her.

Not to mention, she would make a half-decent aspect of order wouldnt she?
She has issues regarding capes (biotinkers in particular) and becoming a parahuman and/or being the subject to transformation by an apparent biotinker for unknown reasons would not go over well to say the least.
 
Amy would be interesting just to see what her power made of Taylor's biology, especially once we get more info on her golden ichor. Actually, that's a good place to introduce her into the story, even if she's being treated biologically as a case-53.
 
She has issues regarding capes (biotinkers in particular) and becoming a parahuman and/or being the subject to transformation by an apparent biotinker for unknown reasons would not go over well to say the least.

I'm not sure I should care; Piggot has no one to blame but herself for her issues. She's basically dealing with a broken body because she doesn't want to feel as though as she owes a parahuman anything.

She needs to get over herself and get healed.
 
She's basically dealing with a broken body because she doesn't want to feel as though as she owes a parahuman anything.
Less she doesn't want to owe a parahuman and more she doesn't trust them that far. And considering the Nilbog mission where all the capes ran at essentially the first sign of trouble leaving her entire team to die, she's got a point. She's professional enough to work with them competently, she's just not willing to put herself under the proverbial knife held by a parahuman.
 
I'm not sure I should care; Piggot has no one to blame but herself for her issues. She's basically dealing with a broken body because she doesn't want to feel as though as she owes a parahuman anything.

She needs to get over herself and get healed.
Thats the funny thing about phobias, they dont have to make sense. In fact, by definition, they dont. I once had a friend who had a phobia of bananas and no, I'm not joking. I dont know if Piggot does actually have a legit phobia of Parahumans, but you cant really blame her for her opinions considering what she went through to end up in her current situation.
 
Thats the funny thing about phobias, they dont have to make sense. In fact, by definition, they dont. I once had a friend who had a phobia of bananas and no, I'm not joking. I dont know if Piggot does actually have a legit phobia of Parahumans, but you cant really blame her for her opinions considering what she went through to end up in her current situation.
You know what? I have a phobia of needles. Not a mild phobia of needles, a great big honking phobia, to the point that when I worked in a vet clinic in high-school and had to bring the tray of huge auto-clavable needles in from the large-animal area, I had to carry it at arms length (though that did get somewhat better after a couple of years).

That doesn't stop me from getting a shot when I need one as an adult. In fact, in college I donated plasma, partly for money, but mostly to try to get over the phobia. (It helped. A little. I think.)

Piggot needs to grow up and deal with it. If it's so bad she literally can't, then she shouldn't have the job she has. She can't have it both ways; either she's capable of handling her phobia, in which case she needs to do so, or she's not, in which case she needs to retire.
 
You know what? I have a phobia of needles. Not a mild phobia of needles, a great big honking phobia, to the point that when I worked in a vet clinic in high-school and had to bring the tray of huge auto-clavable needles in from the large-animal area, I had to carry it at arms length (though that did get somewhat better after a couple of years).

That doesn't stop me from getting a shot when I need one as an adult. In fact, in college I donated plasma, partly for money, but mostly to try to get over the phobia. (It helped. A little. I think.)

Piggot needs to grow up and deal with it. If it's so bad she literally can't, then she shouldn't have the job she has. She can't have it both ways; either she's capable of handling her phobia, in which case she needs to do so, or she's not, in which case she needs to retire.
I also have that phobia. Use to hid behind the chairs in the pediatritians examination room when I was younger. I can stand getting shots now only get nauseous but if I don't have to I normally don't.
 
Have a phobia about injections. Can't stand them. Literally need to sedate/drug myself to not panic when I am supposed to get one while aware. Otherwise I would need to be restrained rather heavily to not flail around.

Point is, not everyone has an easy time getting over these things. For some it is impossible, others can get it to a specific point only, allowing them to manage it with some help. And we have absolutely no idea which area Piggot falls into, provided she actually has one. For all we know, she actually had therapy and the point she is at is the farthest she could get to overcoming it. Far enough to allow her to work as oversight of a Protectorate Team, but no where far enough to truly trust any parahuman fully ever again. And that is something anyone should be able to understand, considering her background.
 
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Piggot needs to grow up and deal with it. If it's so bad she literally can't, then she shouldn't have the job she has. She can't have it both ways; either she's capable of handling her phobia, in which case she needs to do so, or she's not, in which case she needs to retire.
Piggot doesn't have a phobia, she has a prejudice. the fact that her prejudice has a very solid factual basis from which it derives doesn't actually excuse it, but does make it harder to figure out what of her actions were because of rational reasons, and what because of an irrational prejudice.
That said, I agree she needs to grow up.
 
Piggot doesn't have a phobia, she has a prejudice. the fact that her prejudice has a very solid factual basis from which it derives doesn't actually excuse it, but does make it harder to figure out what of her actions were because of rational reasons, and what because of an irrational prejudice.
That said, I agree she needs to grow up.
Unfortunately, she doesn't agree, and no-one with the authority to tell her to either grow up or retire cares enough to do so.
 
To be fair, as I noted the situation makes it difficult to tell how much of what she did is due to prejudice so it's quite popssible no one in authority actually knows she's let her prejudice interfere with her job.
And/or those higher up the chain know about it and due to Path to Victory keep her there instead of ensuring she undergo therapy or something.
 
To be fair, as I noted the situation makes it difficult to tell how much of what she did is due to prejudice so it's quite popssible no one in authority actually knows she's let her prejudice interfere with her job.

I'd say the fact that she forced the Wards, who are supposed to be taken care of by the Protecterate, under her own command is probably something she did out of prejudice. She really wanted those kids where she could keep an eye on them. Not because she likes kids, but because she wanted to have more power over them.

Back when I mispronounced her name, I called her "Piggot the bigot" for a reason. Most authors I've read with Wards!Taylor tend to forget that Piggot doesn't like parahumans, is in fact willing to deal with a broken and sick body if she doesn't have to subject herself to a parahuman for healing. Before anybody says that it's because Panacea is a biokinetic, as far as I can tell, the PRT is only aware that Panacea is a healing cape, not a cape capable of producing flesh eating bacteria using five seconds and a bit of spit.

I do like how Piggot is portrayed here, though. She's showing her prejudice a bit, but she's not unreasonable enough that other people can't get her to calm down. I do think, though, that she's probably going to do something to offend Taylor. She's definitely going to remind Taylor of the adults in her life who basically ignored her or made her life worse.

Before I forget, Taylor is going to have to think long and hard about whether or not to agree to Glenn's plan. I don't know if she's realized this, but the moment she agrees to his plan, there goes her personal freedom. Glenn will be able to choose what personality she has to have as a hero, but the problem is that Taylor has no way to separate herself from her hero persona. Whenever she's out in public (she can't hide those ears and tails until she figures out illusions, if she can use them at all), she has to act the same way that she does when she's got her costume on. She can't turn off that personality until she's somewhere out of the public eye. And as a kid and Ward, she's going to be out in the public eye a lot: going out with friends, school, her patrols, and whatever concerts Glenn is probably going to make her sing at.
 
I'd say the fact that she forced the Wards, who are supposed to be taken care of by the Protecterate, under her own command is probably something she did out of prejudice.

I'd say the fact that you're accusing her of forcing the Wards under her own command, something which is nonsense designed to paint her in a negative light she doesn't deserve, is something you did out of prejudice (against non-protagonists).
 
Which is worse at the end of the day: malice, incompetence or apathy?
Irrelevent, I was pointing out that it's quite possible for them to be competent and caring and still not be aware of Piggot's problems, or at least that those problems rise to the point where something drastic needs to be done. Not at least until Piggot steps over the line.

I'd say the fact that she forced the Wards, who are supposed to be taken care of by the Protecterate, under her own command is probably something she did out of prejudice.
I'd say the fact that she offered to take over some of the bureaucratic duties Armsmaster is so obviously unintrested and not really competent to do (such as Managing the Wards) is an example of what a caring and responsible leader she is. It's also proof that she doesn't let her prejudices interfere with her job...well actually no, I don't say anything of the sort but to anyone looking at things from outside BB the two explanations are equally valid.
is in fact willing to deal with a broken and sick body if she doesn't have to subject herself to a parahuman for healing.
Fanon. There's no evidence in Worm she was ever offered parahuman healing, certainly not without some massive strings attached.

I'd say the fact that you're accusing her of forcing the Wards under her own command, something which is nonsense designed to paint her in a negative light she doesn't deserve, is something you did out of prejudice (against non-protagonists).
This.
 
Irrelevent, I was pointing out that it's quite possible for them to be competent and caring and still not be aware of Piggot's problems, or at least that those problems rise to the point where something drastic needs to be done. Not at least until Piggot steps over the line.
Though is it ever mentioned if she requested to become director of the BB PRT or if she was 'given' the position after Nilbog?
 
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