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[X] Tell them everything except the gamer power, making up lies or claiming secrets for relevant parts.
-[X] Also thank Moody for teaching us the value of CONSTANT VIGILANCE! You never know when a death eater rat animagus is in the room, so showing CONSTANT VIGILANCE is obviously fully justified!
 
You know, I think I know where people are coming from when they say the "thank you" option is pretty ridiculous.

[X] Tell them everything except the gamer power, making up lies or claiming secrets for relevant parts.
-[X] The only reason we were capable enough to stop the traitor was due to the rigorous training we were given by Moody. Without his help, none of this would have been possible. It's high time we thanked him for teaching us so many useful things for defending both us, and those we care for. Tell Moody how much we appreciate what he's done for us.

How's that?
 
Enjou said:
As has been stated, it's intentionally a bit ridiculous because we're attempting to inject humor into the situation.
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Yeah. Heck, this is what gave me the idea:

While Dumbledor chuckles softly and Madam Bones reaches up to pinch the bridge of her nose.

He's turning him into a mini-Moody...

After they look over Peter and confirm that it is indeed him they turn to you and ask what happened. You...
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Basically others find Moody silly, and think his paranoia is a form of craziness.

We thank Moody for teaching us the wisdom of his way of life, since that vigilance helped us to find Pettigrew. I mean who would worry about the possibility that the pet rat of one of the students is actually a death eater animagus in disguise? No one, but Moody. Was there a death eater rat animagus hiding as a pet of one of the students? There was!

I viewed is as thanking/defending Moody (our teacher, our friend and the only one we have trusted with our greatest secret). I don't really see whats "bratty" or "sucking up" about that at all?

Seriously, I don't. I wan't someone to explain it!

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EasyCo said:
I don't know. I agreed at first, but looking back I don't really think this is the right time for that kind of humor. I'd say we save that for after this ends.
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This however might actually make sense since it is a serious situation (an adult man who is a Death Eater has basically been hiding as a pet rat of a small boy). On the other hand, a joke or such could be used to try and relieve the tension.

I do however kinda see where you are coming at. Given the situation, it might be best to try to act very professional and such so that both we and the situation are taken very seriously. Hmm.
 
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EVA-Saiyajin said:
Why?
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Because the GM already did when he had Bones refer to Harry as mini-Moody. And because the situation IS ridicilous in a way (Harry potter discovers/exposes a death eater, captures him and clears Sirius black before he is even sorted).

I am thinking about if this is the appropriate time due to EasyCo though.
 
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Datakim said:
Because the GM already did when he had Bones refer to Harry as mini-Moody. And because the situation IS ridicilous in a way (Harry potter discovers/exposes a death eater, captures him and clears Sirius black before he is even sorted).

I am thinking about if this is the appropriate time due to EasyCo though.
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We still have to actually get Sirius cleared, being taken less seriously likely isn't going to help.
 
Datakim said:
Because the GM already did when he had Bones refer to Harry as mini-Moody. And because the situation IS ridicilous in a way (Harry potter discovers/exposes a death eater, captures him and clears Sirius black before he is even sorted).

I am thinking about if this is the appropriate time due to EasyCo though.
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Yeah, the mini-Moody thing was why I was going with it as well at first. But then I realized that what I hadn't considered is that she never actually said that out loud. Yeah, it was a joke, but the only reason we know she made a joke is because we were basically reading her thoughts. In other words, to everyone else (who didn't hear her say anything), it would sound like we're just making a joke out of nowhere, at a time when a death eater is in the same compartment as us.
 
EasyCo said:
Yeah, the mini-Moody thing was why I was going with it as well at first. But then I realized that what I hadn't considered is that she never actually said that out loud. Yeah, it was a joke, but the only reason we know she made a joke is because we were basically reading her thoughts. In other words, to everyone else (who didn't hear her say anything), it would sound like we're just making a joke out of nowhere, at a time when a death eater is in the same compartment as us.
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Thats a very good point. Changing to yours.

[X] Tell them everything except the gamer power, making up lies or claiming secrets for relevant parts.
-[X] The only reason we were capable enough to stop the traitor was due to the rigorous training we were given by Moody. Without his help, none of this would have been possible. It's high time we thanked him for teaching us so many useful things for defending both us, and those we care for. Tell Moody how much we appreciate what he's done for us.
 
[X] Tell them everything except the gamer power, making up lies or claiming secrets for relevant parts.
-[X] Also thank Moody for teaching us the value of CONSTANT VIGILANCE! You never know when a death eater rat animagus is in the room, so showing CONSTANT VIGILANCE is obviously fully justified!
 
Datakim said:
First, the vote is a descriptor of what Harry does, so the GM basically has to interpret since it can't just be copypasted.

Second, frankly I dont even see whats there to interpret beyond the obvious.

The reference to Harry being a mini-Moody was already brought up by the GM, so I don't see whats wrong in trying to add a bit of humour to the whole thing by having Harry go CONSTANT VIGILANCE and also trolling Dumbledore&Bones a bit.

Anyway this is the vote dissected:

1. Moody helped us and told us to always be vigilant.

2. Were were vigilant (the reason we cast the Detect Evil spell int he first place), and due to that captured Pettigrew.

3. We thank Moody for this important life lesson that allowed us to achieve victory.

(4). We slightly troll Dumbledore and Bones, who find Moodys attitude amusing, by forcing them to confront that yeah, CONSTANT VIGILANCE seems to work.

Where are we sucking up here exactly? Moody taught us something valuable. We thank Moody for it. The end.

Explain brattiness. Explain sucking up. Because to be blunt, I don't get it or see it.

Why don't you illuminate me, so that I can do better next time?
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GM'S have to extrapolate and fill in blanks. Maybe adjust for personality. They don't read minds. The tone you set with your vote dictates the way they extrapolate the vote.

Do you know the difference between sucking up and giving genuine thanks? It's honesty and subtlety. Constant vigilance is Moody's thing. Anyone who uses it that's not him is intentionally channeling his spirit, with the subtlety of a freight train. Asking for a password and capturing a dark wizard is us internalizing his lessons and putting them into practice. And that's the highest reward for a teacher. We can thank him for the lessons, but using his phrase is just excessive.

You mentioned how the GM made the comment. But that's exactly the problem. The joke has already been played. I remember when I was a kid, someone would do something funny and get a good reaction. So they stupidly think, if once is funny, more must be hilarious. So they keep doing it. But it's not funny. Why? Cause it's not funny in excess. We have plenty of opportunities to use that joke, but we already did something very similar in this encounter.

Shouting off constant vigilance is trying too hard to make us look like Moody. That's why it's sucking up.
 
Enjou said:
I don't really intend for Ron to be part of our core group of friends.
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We should get him.

He has a trait that makes him a really good friend.

Loyalty.

Plus he is a gateway access to all his family which gets us the Twins, his Prefect Brother, the one who handles dangerous magical reserve that has dragons and is hilariously funny himself when he wants to be.

He will can keep Draco occupied whenever Malfoy becomes annoying too.

There is no reason to limit ourselves to only a 3 person group of friends. We can have as many good friend in our in-group as we want and I don't see a reason to deny Ron as he hasn't done anything that would make it impossible to become good friends.
 
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Hmm. EasyCo just made me think of something else.

We are reading peoples mind due to our spell right? What about Dumbledore? I assume he knows Occlumency? Might he be able to block us (which would be fine), or worse, detect us (how would we explain that?).
 
[X] Tell them everything except the gamer power, making up lies or claiming secrets for relevant parts.
-[X] The only reason we were capable enough to stop the traitor was due to the rigorous training we were given by Moody. Without his help, none of this would have been possible. It's high time we thanked him for teaching us so many useful things for defending both us, and those we care for. Tell Moodyhow much we appreciate what he's done for us.
 
Vlad said:
Loyalty.
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I don't dislike Ron, and I don't like bashing, but...that's kind of wishy-washy. On the one hand, he willingly goes into a den filled with giant killer versions of his worst fear with a busted wand because his friend is going in.

On the other hand, he abandons said friend for weeks because he thinks he's a glory seeking lying hound despite knowing said friend for years.

I suppose we could just say it was stupid of Rowling?
 
EVA-Saiyajin said:
I don't dislike Ron, and I don't like bashing, but...that's kind of wishy-washy. On the one hand, he willingly goes into a den filled with giant killer versions of his worst fear with a busted wand because his friend is going in.

On the other hand, he abandons said friend for weeks because he thinks he's a glory seeking lying hound despite knowing said friend for years.

I suppose we could just say it was stupid of Rowling?
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Yeah... I'm keeping character portrayals as close to canon as I can without being Rowling, so Ron would be a good friend, if one with a bit of a hair-trigger temper and inferiority issues.

But even going by canon I don't know about calling him loyal. He is capable of acts of great bravery. Overcoming his fear to walk into an acromantula nest(Which demonstrates just why he was put in Gryffindor), breaking into the DoM with Harry... But he also turned on Harry, sniped at Hermione a lot...

That said! The books do not cover day to day life(because that would make them far longer and dryer). They hit highlights. Maybe during the day-to-day he's the greatest guy in the world.

Edit: My mind is odd. After typing this I'd suddenly started thinking about what if he was the greatest guy in the world every other day, and the days in canon are specifically his days off. Marked in a calender and everything. Every day not shown in canon involves him rescuing kittens from whomping willows, helping guide lost firsties around, stopping to pitch in and help Filch clean up after a prank by Peeves. But his days off he just wants to relax, play chess or talk quidditch. Then Hermione comes in and starts pestering him about homework. It would be enough to make anybody snippy.
 
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EVA-Saiyajin said:
I don't dislike Ron, and I don't like bashing, but...that's kind of wishy-washy. On the one hand, he willingly goes into a den filled with giant killer versions of his worst fear with a busted wand because his friend is going in.

On the other hand, he abandons said friend for weeks because he thinks he's a glory seeking lying hound despite knowing said friend for years.

I suppose we could just say it was stupid of Rowling?
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I find that kind of believable. Friends get into stupid arguments all the time.

I know two guys who were mad at each other for a week cause the other argued over a stupid Call of Duty game.

It is the little things and spats that happen in any relationship, but if you are willing to risk your life and face giant spiders when your friend really needs you that is what matters.
 
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EVA-Saiyajin said:
We still have to actually get Sirius cleared, being taken less seriously likely isn't going to help.
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We have captured Peter Pettigrew, revealed he is a Death Eater who has been hiding as a rat for around a decade, and handed him over to Amelia Bones. Do you seriously think a little humor is going to be enough to derail the obvious conclusion of that line of events?

Our Harry also seems like a rather jovial person in general - just look at the "stop kicking puppies" bit with telling Draco how not to be evil.

Datakim said:
Hmm. EasyCo just made me think of something else.

We are reading peoples mind due to our spell right? What about Dumbledore? I assume he knows Occlumency? Might he be able to block us (which would be fine), or worse, detect us (how would we explain that?).
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The GM previously confirmed that ESP is blockable even by low level Occlumency (which yes, Dumbledore canonically has) but that it is undetectable due to the passive nature of it.


Vlad said:
We should get him.

He has a trait that makes him a really good friend.

Loyalty.

Plus he is a gateway access to all his family which gets us the Twins, his Prefect Brother, the one who handles dangerous magical reserve that has dragons and is hilariously funny himself when he wants to be.

He will can keep Draco occupied whenever Malfoy becomes annoying too.

There is no reason to limit ourselves to only a 3 person group of friends. We can have as many good friend in our in-group as we want and I don't see a reason to deny Ron as he hasn't done anything that would make it impossible to become good friends.
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As others have said, Ron's loyalty is a rather inconsistent affair. Loyalty is also not something particularly unique to him. We can get other friends to be loyal as well - heal Neville's parents and he'll be loyal to us for life, Hermione has a strong moral compass that would ensure she'd never betray us once we're solid friends, and Susan seems like she'd be a good friend to have as well.

Also, we don't have to be friends close friends with Ron to be friends with his brothers, especially if we ended up going Gryffindor. And even if we aren't close friends with Ron, that doesn't mean we can't be general friends with him - not being in our inner circle doesn't mean we have to ignore him outright.

I just don't think he's worth bringing into our inner circle. He's got insecurity issues due to his brothers and Harry's fame, yet at the same time he lacks the motivation to actually put any effort in to put effort into his classes and better himself. While our power will allow our friends who we invite to party with us shortcuts in the form of skillbooks, we also need to have people who will be willing to work hard grinding with us. That's not the only issue I have with him, but it's one of the big problems.
 
Halpo133 said:
Edit: My mind is odd. After typing this I'd suddenly started thinking about what if he was the greatest guy in the world every other day, and the days in canon are specifically his days off. Marked in a calender and everything. Every day not shown in canon involves him rescuing kittens from whomping willows, helping guide lost firsties around, stopping to pitch in and help Filch clean up after a prank by Peeves. But his days off he just wants to relax, play chess or talk quidditch. Then Hermione comes in and starts pestering him about homework. It would be enough to make anybody snippy.
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I would read this story. Ronald Bilius Weasley, Gentleman Extraordinaire!(most days)
 
Deathstorm50 said:
I would read this story. Ronald Bilius Weasley, Gentleman Extraordinaire!(most days)
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Would certainly explain what Hermione saw in him.

Don't get me wrong, I don't dislike Ron. He has faults, sure. But people do. And while I have read and enjoyed stories with Ron-bashing it's sort of a guilty pleasure. And I enjoy stories where he's a genuinely good guy just as much. But I never understood the decision for Hermione and Ron to end up together. It just never seemed to fit in my mind.
 
Halpo133 said:
Would certainly explain what Hermione saw in him.

Don't get me wrong, I don't dislike Ron. He has faults, sure. But people do. And while I have read and enjoyed stories with Ron-bashing it's sort of a guilty pleasure. And I enjoy stories where he's a genuinely good guy just as much. But I never understood the decision for Hermione and Ron to end up together. It just never seemed to fit in my mind.
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It was stupid wish fulfillment by the author; Ron acted just like her high school crush or some such rot.

She's admitted that they'd probably never work in canon in an interview just like she admitted that Harry and Ginny weren't well developed enough and if they had a relationship based on what she showed in the book it would likely fail as well.

At least her new editor is willing to slap her with when her writing isn't up to par and her plotline is stupid; I see direct correlations between new editor and new understanding of how life works. Old Editor obviously was kissing the ass of the golden goose, new editor wasn't banking on her name to be the only thing that sold books for a new series or whatever she's writing now... I think it's some sort of romances or something.
 
Current tally. You know, all this discussion about whether the comment is appropriate or not turns out to be rather pointless given the comment doesn't even have a majority of votes. Given voting seems to have died off you can probably call it, @Halpo133.

Vote Tally : The Power(Harry Potter/The Gamer) | Page 205 | Sufficient Velocity
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[X] Tell them everything except the gamer power, making up lies or claiming secrets for relevant parts.
No. of Votes: 34
KnightofTempest
AZATHOTHoth
BlackTitanOdin
Blue Odin
Captain Spatula
CatScannerDarkly
Crazy7s1
Daniel14541
Dead-Not
Edkose
edmantgoog
EVA-Saiyajin
Evaunit02mark1
Finbar
FireAsh
Godogma
Goldfish
JeffJway
Kerfirou
Logos
Mandabar
Mistofshadows
NegativeHorizon
saiman
saskakachi
solodark28
Somebodynobody10
Strunkriindiisk
the DragonBard
Torgamous
TotallyNotEvil
Vilegrave
will408914
Zaratustra

[X] Tell them everything except the gamer power, making up lies or claiming secrets for relevant parts.
-[X] Also thank Moody for teaching us the value of CONSTANT VIGILANCE! You never know when a death eater rat animagus is in the room, so showing CONSTANT VIGILANCE is obviously fully justified!
No. of Votes: 14
Unelemental
Bloodalchemy
darthdavid
Enjou
GulibleLeprecon
Kaioo
Louie the Lilac
Massgamer
mrttao
Nix
tenchifew
Vebyast
Vlad
WCSII

[x] Tell them everything except the gamer power. Where THAT is concerned, you don't lie, just claim it's a secret and let Moody back you on the secret. Or tell them if he thinks them trustworthy enough, on the basis that anyone Moody thinks is trustworthy enough is basically unimpeachable.
No. of Votes: 4
veekie
Dr. Bob Doom
NeverDies
Nor

[X] Tell them everything except the gamer power, making up lies or claiming secrets for relevant parts.
-[X] The only reason we were capable enough to stop the traitor was due to the rigorous training we were given by Moody. Without his help, none of this would have been possible. It's high time we thanked him for teaching us so many useful things for defending both us, and those we care for. Tell Moody how much we appreciate what he's done for us.
No. of Votes: 3
EasyCo
Datakim
Deathstorm50

[X] Tell them everything except the gamer power, claiming secrets for relevant parts.
No. of Votes: 1
LightMage

[X] Tell them everything except the gamer power, making up lies or claiming secrets for relevant parts.
-[X] Also thank Moody for teaching us the value of CONSTANT VIGILANCE! You never know when a death eater rat animagus is in the room, so showing CONSTANT VIGILANCE is obviously fully justified!
--[X] And whats that about the rat being a hero ? ask them how that came to be; and verify later with Moody, including that Sirius Black reference
No. of Votes: 1
nainale

[X] Tell them everything except the gamer power, making up lies or claiming secrets for relevant parts.
-[X] Also thank Moody for 'training us'.
No. of Votes: 1
ArchRegis

Total No. of Voters: 58
 
Enjou said:
Current tally. You know, all this discussion about whether the comment is appropriate or not turns out to be rather pointless given the comment doesn't even have a majority of votes. Given voting seems to have died off you can probably call it, @Halpo133.
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Not yet. Not because there could be more voting, but because I was hit with insomnia and am now quite tired, enough that the quality of my writing and coherency of the update would be affected. Which is probably why my mind thought up Gentleman!Ron. I'm going to snag a couple hours sleep and when I wake up I'll call it and write an update.
 
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