The Power(Harry Potter/The Gamer)

mrttao · Aug 12, 2015

Datakim said:
So we are immune to all diseases now, natural AND magical. I wonder if there any magical diseases that are non-lethal, act very quickly (due to magic), and can be easily found/spread. Could be potentially usefull.

if we were voldemort. on the side of heroes collatoral damage is a thing we actually give a damn about so we really don't want something as impossibly hard to aim and control as a bioweapon

Godogma said:
Good luck reacting faster than Harry (canonically the youngest seeker in Hogwarts in the last century or more) who has been trained by the most famous auror to ever live.

Also, visible Dark Mark in play.

Its funny how stupid having a dark mark is. what kind of secret society brands all its members on a highly visible spot like that?
I like how hermoine just instantly proved to everyone in the compartment that he is one by just showing them his mark

... i wonder if there is a spell to covertly place a fake mark on someone to implicate them unjustly

Datakim · Aug 12, 2015

AZATHOTHoth said:
Should we confiscate everyone's(except ours) wand here just in case they might accidentally release the traitor? Also should we seal the room again when Hermione or anyone else leaves and unseal when they come back since it might seem to an outsider that we stunned a hero/random guy and they might revive him if they react to quickly for us to stop them.

I figured that in a situation like this, Harry will demonstrate CONSTANT VIGILANCE and be ready for anything without us having to say it. Also, as Godogma said, Pettigrew is a supposed hero, thats been hiding as a rat and carries the dark mark. And there are a lot of witnesses (not to mention pensieves and such) to prove the whole thing.

I doubt anyone will be stupid enough to intervene in a situation like this. Anyone who helps Pettigrew here basically becomes a criminal and wrecks their life.

Theres also the problem that taking wands away from people like say Ron or Susan would basically be us saying "I don't trust you not to help the evil death eater so give me your wand". Even if we were just being carefull, I would not be at all surprised if we lost quite a few relations points for something like that.

Enjou · Aug 12, 2015

Current tally. Seems pretty clear cut what the winner is.

Vote Tally : The Power(Harry Potter/The Gamer) | Page 196 | Sufficient Velocity
##### NetTally 1.1.15

[X] You will need to ensure that multiple parties are made aware of this through multiple means. It does not hurt to be thorough.
-[X] Cast Petrifying Curse to Pettigrew in case he wakes up.
-[X] Search him for any weapons or magical things he might use to escape.
-[X] You have Hedwig and Susan Bones! Send Hedwig off with a letter from you and Susan to Amelia Bones.
--[X] Make absolutely sure to note that he's an animagus, and that you are lead to believe he was thought to be some kind of hero but is actually a Death Eater, so he needs to be questioned thoroughly.
--[X] Also ask her to inform Moody, in case your own communications effort fails. Request that he be there when the arrest is made, if at all possible.
-[X] Have Hermione go fetch a prefect and any adults with actual authority on the train, notifying them that an animagus Death Eater has been found and captured in Harry Potter's compartment. The prefect should preferably be from a house that's likely neutral and levelheaded, so Hufflepuff or Ravenclaw.
--[X] If they can find anyone else with a Post Owl, see about borrowing them to send additional letters if other means of communication are not available. Send additional letters to Dumbledore and Moody.
-[X] If possible, ensure you stick with Mr. Pettigrew until he has been handed over to a proper authority in front of multiple witnesses. Ensure anyone you're handing him to isn't evil. Proper authorities would include Albus Dumbledore or Aurors.
-[X] Send someone else to find if someone has a camera that can be borrowed so evidence can be gathered, like pictures of Mr. Pettigrew and his Dark Mark. Also see if you can get any history from Ron on where he got the rat and its known history.
-[X] When you have a moment, ask why people thought Mr. Pettigrew is a hero.
No. of Votes: 29

[X] You have Hedwig and Susan Bones! Send Hedwig off with a letter from you and Susan.
-[X] To Amelia Bones
No. of Votes: 5

Superticus
Edkose
Ethereal Vitali
gjones600
saiman

[X] You have Hedwig and Susan Bones! Send Hedwig off with a letter from you and Susan.
-[X] To Amelia Bones
-[X] Cast Petrifying Curse to Pettigrew in case he wakes up
No. of Votes: 3

saskakachi
Gamerlord
wingstrike96

[X] You will need to ensure that multiple parties are made aware of this through multiple means. It does not hurt to be thorough.
-[X] Cast Petrifying Curse to Pettigrew in case he wakes up.
-[X] Search him for any weapons or magical things he might use to escape.
-[X] You have Hedwig and Susan Bones! Send Hedwig off with a letter from you and Susan to Amelia Bones.
--[X] Make absolutely sure to note that he's an animagus, and that you are lead to believe he was thought to be some kind of hero but is actually a Death Eater, so he needs to be questioned thoroughly.
-[X] Have someone go fetch a prefect and any adults with actual authority on the train, notifying them that an animagus Death Eater has been found and captured in Harry Potter's compartment.
--[X] If they can find anyone else with a Post Owl, see about borrowing them to send additional letters if other means of communication are not available. Send additional letters to Dumbledore and Moody.
-[X] If possible, ensure you stick with Mr. Pettigrew until he has been handed over to a proper authority in front of multiple witnesses. Ensure anyone you're handing him to isn't evil. Proper authorities would include Albus Dumbledore or Aurors.
-[X] Send someone else to find if someone has a camera that can be borrowed so evidence can be gathered, like pictures of Mr. Pettigrew and his Dark Mark. Also see if you can get any history from Ron on where he got the rat and its known history.
No. of Votes: 2

Vlad
Evaunit02mark1

[x] Enjou + add "please inform moody" to the letter to ms bones.
No. of Votes: 1

mrttao

Total No. of Voters: 40

Dr. Bob Doom · Aug 12, 2015

"Now, Mr. Potter. You say that you knew this man's name was Peter Pettigrew because..." *glances at notes* "You can see his name floating above his head?"

Enjou · Aug 12, 2015

Dr. Bob Doom said:
"Now, Mr. Potter. You say that you knew this man's name was Peter Pettigrew because..." *glances at notes* "You can see his name floating above his head?"

Accidental magic, clearly.

Datakim · Aug 12, 2015

Dr. Bob Doom said:
"Now, Mr. Potter. You say that you knew this man's name was Peter Pettigrew because..." *glances at notes* "You can see his name floating above his head?"

Thats a good point. Umm.

If we knew about Sirius, we could basically say that Moody told us it all, but we don't and people would wonder why we can recognize Pettigrew on sight, but don't know about the man who supposedly killed Harrys parents. Nor would it make sense to ask why people consider him a hero, if we pretended that Moody had told us.

I guess we could just say its a unique ability. I mean its not like we can't prove it. Would attract attention though.

We should have waited for someone else to recognize and name him. Anyone have an idea on how we will explain this?

WCSII · Aug 12, 2015

. . .Uh, dude... we've been living with Moody for a month. Just say he told us about Death Eaters getting branded like common cattle (if at all possible, in front of Draco) and that while he did mention someone named black killing the man, with showing us, for some reason, a photo of Pettigrew, and three other blokes we have no idea who they are, was never mentioned that Pettigrew was hailed a hero for dying by another wizards wand...

Enjou · Aug 12, 2015

Datakim said:
Thats a good point. Umm.

If we knew about Sirius, we could basically say that Moody told us it all, but we don't and people would wonder why we can recognize Pettigrew on sight, but don't know about the man who supposedly killed Harrys parents. Nor would it make sense to ask why people consider him a hero, if we pretended that Moody had told us.

I guess we could just say its a unique ability. I mean its not like we can't prove it. Would attract attention though.

We should have waited for someone else to recognize and name him. Anyone have an idea on how we will explain this?

Just say our Accidental Magic has a quirk that sometimes tells us who people's names are if it comes up. After all, the presence of an evil rat animagus assassin would certainly raise our stress levels, right?

Datakim · Aug 12, 2015

Enjou said:
Accidental magic, clearly.

It would work, but it would also reveal our ability. The "see names" ability is much more usefull than Detect Evil was. I don't really want that to become public knowledge.

Enjou, would you consider removing the whole "why is he a hero" thing from the vote. Basically we should try to bluff things so that this ability remains hidden. We can hopefully rely on Moody to be there and help us keep things quiet.

Something like this:

[] You act cool to keep your Gamer ability to see names hidden. You don't want people to realise you can identify them on sight.

WCSII · Aug 12, 2015

We only learned that the "rat" was evil, detect evil doesn't tell us if it's an animagus, assassin, or boohoo. It'd just tell us that the rat's recently been the target of evil.

Nix · Aug 12, 2015

Datakim said:
Enjou, would you consider removing the whole "why is he a hero" thing from the vote. Basically we should try to bluff things so that this ability remains hidden. We can hopefully rely on Moody to be there and help us keep things quiet.

Ron and Draco told us he was believed to be a hero, so that part is fine.

Datakim · Aug 12, 2015

WCSII said:
. . .Uh, dude... we've been living with Moody for a month. Just say he told us about Death Eaters getting branded like common cattle (if at all possible, in front of Draco) and that while he did mention someone named black killing the man, with showing us, for some reason, a photo of Pettigrew, and three other blokes we have no idea who they are, was never mentioned that Pettigrew was hailed a hero for dying by another wizards wand...

Actually, this seems pretty good. Though we would have to get Moody to play along somehow.

WCSII said:
We only learned that the "rat" was evil, detect evil doesn't tell us if it's an animagus, assassin, or boohoo. It'd just tell us that the rat's recently been the target of evil.

I don't think it works like that. Detect Evil showed that the rat was evil. Rats CANNOT be evil. Therefere, the rat was not a rat, but someone pretending to be rat.

Godogma · Aug 12, 2015

Doesn't work that way.

Detect Evil quite literally DETECTS EVIL.

It only picks up alignments. And it does so as auras; it wouldn't detect if he had someone curse him or whatever. So we automatically knew it wasn't a rat.

You have to be intelligent to have an alignment.

WCSII · Aug 12, 2015

Sadly, unless we ask Moody in private why Pettigrew was thought to be a hero, we'd never find out about Black being arrested for Pettigrew's death, and our parents murder. Thus us wanting Pettigrew questioned about his involvement in our parents death... you can gaurentee that our mystery objective ties in with finding out about Sirus' incarceration for our parents' death.

(EDIT) Damn it, where was the OP's post that explicitly stated that things that have been cursed by dark spells do show up with Detect Evil as an having an aura of Evil around it. Freaking post ponging general discussions... well, it was somewhere in the last 50 pages... or 70... *mutters as I continue trying to find it*

Datakim · Aug 12, 2015

Nix said:
Ron and Draco told us he was a hero, so that part is fine.

What I mean is that its kinda odd that Harry can recognize Pettigrew on sight, but has no clue why the wizarding world would consider him a hero (despite the fact that he is obviously famous since both Ron and Draco instantly recognized the name). I mean everyone thought Pettigrew was killed in defense of Harrys family or somesuch. Anyone who would show pictures of Pettigrew to Harry would almost certainly mention his supposed heroism.

So won't it lead to people wondering how Harry can instantly recognize Pettigrew, but has no idea who the man is or what he (supposedly) did. Revealing our ability to detect names would obviously fix this, but that seems like a usefull trump card I would want to keep a secret.

WCSII said:
Sadly, unless we ask Moody in private why Pettigrew was thought to be a hero, we'd never find out about Black being arrested for Pettigrew's death, and our parents murder. Thus us wanting Pettigrew questioned about his involvement in our parents death... you can gaurentee that our mystery objective ties in with finding out about Sirus' incarceration for our parents' death.

Given what we now know, we have MORE than sufficient justification to basically learn everything about Pettigrew. Which will naturally lead to learning everything about Sirius, Harrys parents and so on. All we needed was his name. Now that we have it, the case on learning everything is closed.

Now, we just need to make sure he is properly arrested and interrogated so that Sirius is released.

Godogma · Aug 12, 2015

Detect Evil will pick up a horcrux however because it has intelligence and is consciously evil... I've found liches phylacteries that way in D&D.

Pro-tip if you're going to put your soul in something; don't make it flashy... I recommend gravel and a Japanese garden on the other side of the world from you.

Datakim; we can always claim to recognize him because we remember it from when we were a baby. No one disputes Harry remembering his mom being murdered after all. So evidently they've seen weirder than babies remembering people's names and faces.

So there's no need to reveal any of our abilities. Just play it off that we remembered him.

Enjou · Aug 12, 2015

Yeah, as others have said...

Detect Evil told us the rat was evil -> Rats are simple animals, therefore can't be evil -> logical conclusion is that the rat is an animagus.

WCSII said:
Thus us wanting Pettigrew questioned about his involvement in our parents death...

Just to note, my plan doesn't have us asking about our parents deaths, just the letter saying we want him questioned because his entire circumstances are suspicious as hell.

Datakim said:
Actually, this seems pretty good. Though we would have to get Moody to play along somehow.

Moody is likely to play along if it becomes an issue. Most people might not even think to ask, just being too flabbergasted by the situation as a whole. Or we could just be crytic and say "Moody taught us a few things, and I'm not at liberty to explain - anything on the official reports could be seen by other Death Eaters".

Godogma said:
Datakim; we can always claim to recognize him because we remember it from when we were a baby. No one disputes Harry remembering his mom being murdered after all. So evidently they've seen weirder than babies remembering people's names and faces.

If necessary we could throw in that we've been doing Occlumens training, and that's helped a bit with our memory.

WCSII · Aug 12, 2015

. . . I thought that aside from fanon, Harry only recalled his mother dying by Riddle's wand when Dementors are trying to eat Harry's soul?

Datakim · Aug 12, 2015

WCSII said:
(EDIT) Damn it, where was the OP's post that explicitly stated that things that have been cursed by dark spells do show up with Detect Evil as an having an aura of Evil around it. Freaking post ponging general discussions... well, it was somewhere in the last 50 pages... or 70... *mutters as I continue trying to find it*

It works like this:

Detect Evil (Divination) Reversible
Level: 1 Components: V, S, M Range: 12" Casting Time: 1 round Duration: 1 turn + ½ turn/level Saving Throw: None Area of Effect: 1" path
Explanation/Description: This is a spell which discovers emanations of evil, or of good in the case of the reverse spell, from any creature or object. For example, evil alignment or an evilly cursed object will radiate evil, but a hidden trop or an unintelligent viper will not. The duration of a Detect Evil (or Detect Good) spell is 1 turn + ½ turn (5 rounds, or 5 minutes) per level of the cleric. Thus a cleric of 1st level of experience can cast a spell with a 1½ turn duration, at 2nd level a 2 turn duration, 2½ at 3rd, etc. The spell has a path of detection 1" wide in the direction in which the cleric is facing. It requires the use of the cleric's holy (or unholy) symbol as its material component, with the cleric holding it before him or her.

It can tell if an object is evil, and it can tell if person is evil. However if the rat had been wearing an evil collar or somesuch, Harry would have detected the source.

So for example, the back of Quirrells skull will likely glow with far greater evil than the man in general.

Godogma · Aug 12, 2015

It's his worst memory and is brought out by Dementor's presence; yes.

But no one disputes that he remembers it at all.

EDIT: Which is against all accepted science; according to psychiatry/brain studies and memory studies the earliest memory that was verifiable was from some time around 4 or 5 year old for the subject.

Harry has a phenomenal memory because he can remember something from when he was 1; even if he had to be near dementors for him to remember it the first time.

WCSII · Aug 12, 2015

Of course no one disputed it... because he never said he remembered it till he fell from his broom in third year because the dementors swarming him during the quiditch game.

Datakim · Aug 12, 2015

Godogma said:
It's his worst memory and is brought out by Dementor's presence; yes.

But no one disputes that he remembers it at all.

Frankly, this is a poor excuse IMHO.

Harry remembers his mom dying, because he was in the presence of a soul sucking eldritch abomination. And the memory was from an intensely magical moment where Voldemort was "killed" and Harry marked with a scar. (or close to that moment anyway).

Its a LOT easier to believe that than Harry going "yeah, I remember seeing him when I was an infant". Oh, and what will we say when they start asking other questions about our infancy, which we obviously don't remember.

I figure the best option would be to just play it cool. Don't reveal anything, but instead listen to others and be vague about things. Then rush to eat a book about Pettigrew the moment we have a chance. Thats why I figure we should not question people about Pettigrews heroism. We can learn it ourself, and not give anything away.

WCSII · Aug 12, 2015

That and we didn't know that Pettigrew knew our family, so we have no reason to say "Oh I remember him hanging around when I was one."

Hence the reason for asking about why he was a hero, to learn that he was given hero status for supposedly being killed by Sirius, regarding something about our parents murder. Which would lead to us asking, "why would Pettigrew have any reason to know about this Sirius bloke killing our parents... also, didn't Voldemort kill my parents?" And then people will go oh, Pettigrew and Black were friends of your parents, and Black betrayed them to Voldemort, then Black killed Pettigrew and thirteen muggles." To which we'd respond... "Well, since Pettigrew here's a death eater, it seems kinda silly that another death eater would try to kill him, wouldn't make more sense that Black was trying to kill Pettigrew if Pettigrew was the one to betray my parents instead?"

Enjou · Aug 12, 2015

Datakim said:
Then rush to eat a book about Pettigrew the moment we have a chance.

That would only work if it had a skill to teach.

Godogma · Aug 12, 2015

Like I said; if someone asks how we knew his name that's a valid excuse. Or at least as valid as any other and it's indisputable.

Literally NO ONE can prove Harry doesn't remember the faces and names of his parents old friends.

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