That will not hold up in any sort of court. Hell we do not even know it is Petigrew.
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That will not hold up in any sort of court. Hell we do not even know it is Petigrew.
Depends on how long it takes to unseal it. Could be a complex spell. Could be that the actual sealer of the room can unseal the room with a simple thought. We don't even know yet HOW the room is sealed (locked?, magic barriers?, anti-apparition?, what?).
This is one of the answers we are waiting for from the GM, and why many have stated they might change their votes in response.
All this will tell us is that Ron had an evil Rat named Wormtail (a name that only Remus Lupin will recognize, and we have absolutely no way reason to tell him). Further, if he runs away in his rat form, we will have no proof, and will just come off looking like a lunatic to everyone but Moody.
However, if we were to say chase him out and as result force him to turn human in order to apparate away, we would atleast get a chance to use Mage Sight on him in human form, which would likely show not Wormtail but Pettigrew. And Moody WOULD recognize that name.
Basically, I see this going 3 basic ways:
Best: We capture Pettigrew and force him into human form infront of multiple witnesses, then manipulate our reputation to get Sirius out.
Bad, but salvagable: Pettigrew escapes us, but we learn who he is. This gives us IC reason to investigate Pettigrew, which will allow Harry to discover Sirius, the fact Sirius had no trial, the fact that Pettigrew (a man supposed to be a hero and dead) is evil and running around as a rat, etc. Harry will have no proof of anything, but HE will know.
Total failure: Pettigrew escapes into the woods without being exposed. Harry knows there is an evil rat named Wormtail out there, which for all intents and purposes is utterly and completely useless.
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What woods? We are on a moving train. He would die if he tried to get off as a rat.
Fred and George Weasley would recognize the name. Not in a way that's more helpful than "he's not crazy that definitely is a name" sense, but still.
Eh, just came up with the terrain randomly since I have no clue about the terrain outside right now.
And eh, depends I suppose. Dunno how strong Animagus are? Might there be protective charms to slow down anyone who might fall? Could he potentially survive jumping from the train? I dunno?
He is a rat. He does not have any physical abilities not shared by other rats. As for protective charms, maybe, but he would need to take human from and steal a wand which would break his cover and if he is going to do that he may as well Disparate.
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No I mean there might be inbuilt charms in the train for all we know that automatically protect anyone that falls off? Then again, wizards are not the most safety conscious people overall.
Why do that when you can just seal the doors with magic when the train is in motion? Provided of course hey even considered it.
Cushioning charms is just asking to lose students on the way to dares and such.
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[X] Use the Homorphus charm(Won't stop him, but will reveal him.) Then chase him. (roll 1d100 for the charm and 1d20 for the chase.)
I'm gonna make a case for this:
The most important thing is to reveal a rat animagus. It does not really matter if we capture him. Because this will reach the front page news anyway. Which Remus will read. He'll contact Dumbledore and the newspaper for sure. Even Sirius might find out and escape
I'm gonna make a case for this:
The most important thing is to reveal a rat animagus. It does not really matter if we capture him. Because this will reach the front page news anyway. Which Remus will read. He'll contact Dumbledore and the newspaper for sure. Even Sirius might find out and escape
[X] Use the Homorphus charm(Won't stop him, but will reveal him.) Then chase him. (roll 1d100 for the charm and 1d20 for the chase.)
Sounds like an excellent opportunity to SMITE EVIL.
I'd rather get Sirius freed legally and Smite Evil vs Zombies instead of beating on class XXXXX creatures barehanded even with Smite Evil.
Not sure, but I think the 1d100 roll is for hitting Pettigrew with the Homomorphus? Thats what I am assuming anyway. As such, theres really no reason not to use a stunner that I can see? If we hit with a stun spell, he is stunned and we can quickly follow with the Homomorphus to get an unconscious human (animagus revelation + capture). If we do it in the opposite order, we will still have to fight Pettigrew in his human form. Granted, much easier to hit a human, but we would still have to hit a rat atleast once. If so, why not with a stunner?
I think stun spell always works and knocks a person out right?
You do make a point about a newspaper. If we can somehow get it into the paper that there was a rat animagus with a missing a finger named Wormtail hiding near Harry Potter, then that would almost certainly get to Remus. The trouble is, we don't have any proof if Pettigrew gets away. I don't think Harry can get a front news story without some proof. Detect Evil is a spell that no one will believe afterall.
Most excellent. We can learn the Patronus charm early, and then develop an advanced version that actually kills Dementors. Lots of XP there I bet.
Good way to grind occlumency too.
Seriously though, Sirius does not get a paper. It was sheer chance in canon that Fudge gave him JUST the right paper.
Wormtail is a coward, but when his life is on the line, he can be pretty decisive and ruthless. So if he escapes the room, he could attack one of the nearest schoolchildren, take away their wand, kill them (or maybe Obliviate and Imperio them to attack us?) and from there it's home-free for Peter. Maybe he'll even cause an accident or two to distract us. Who knows how difficult it is to push the train off the tracks for a magic user?
But this is pretty sucky for him as well. The first time around, he betrayed us for his Lord only for Voldemort to wind up dead and had to live as a rat for more than a decade. The moment he met us again, we instantly discovered him and he's forced to flee again. We're like his personal bad luck omen. :lol
But this is pretty sucky for him as well. The first time around, he betrayed us for his Lord only for Voldemort to wind up dead and had to live as a rat for more than a decade. The moment he met us again, we instantly discovered him and he's forced to flee again. We're like his personal bad luck omen. :lol
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[X] Seal the damn room; then we have two rather hulking 11 year olds plus a Malfoy in front of a sealed door and can get the rat at our leisure? (Also doors are much easier to HIT than running rats).
-[X] If he escapes for some reason, don't think and act fast. Tell Hedwig to get him and follow her to her new target. The Hunt begins, on today's menu: a little Wormtail.
Cage? What cage? Hedwig has been sitting on our shoulders the whole time! Right?
-[X] If he escapes for some reason, don't think and act fast. Tell Hedwig to get him and follow her to her new target. The Hunt begins, on today's menu: a little Wormtail.
Cage? What cage? Hedwig has been sitting on our shoulders the whole time! Right?
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My headcanon say that the stunner is emitted by the wand while the Homorphus which is more like transfiguration is not. They likely have different DC and if Homorphus is not required to hit Wormtail it should have a higher chance of succes. @Halpo133, can you confirm how the Homorphus is cast?
There will be several eyewitnesses. They only need to see a rat turn into a man.
Sirius still wont get a paper unless Fudge is oh so conveniently touring the prison tomorrow. Good luck with that... and if he does Remus isn't on the roster and we have no idea where to find the patronus charm to deal with dementors...
So, yeah.... the whole "Who cares if he escapes as long as people see him turn into a man" plan isn't a very good plan at all.
So, yeah.... the whole "Who cares if he escapes as long as people see him turn into a man" plan isn't a very good plan at all.
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We should probably get her out, then. I can't imagine that's comfortable.
Unlikely. But even IF it happened?
"Hedwig, please inform Moody that there are dementors around. Ask if he would send me a book with the necessary charm to fight them, since CONSTANT VIGILANCE demands I know it." (OMNOMNOM)
Not to mention dementors probably won't work on Harry due to the whole Gamers Mind thing.
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They do affect him, just less than they normally would.
It's...it's the Homorphus Charm. It's right in the name. It shoots out of a wand, just like pretty much ALL magic in Harry Potter does.
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Expect when it doesn't. In the book canon, most spells (I think) are never explicitly described as a beam or anything. I'm pretty sure the levitation charm didn't ever mention anything of the sort.
What? Why won't Remus learn of it? It'll be the talk of the week. I wouldn't be surprised if Dumbledore knew about the fact that Sirius, James and Peter were animagi at school.
Every book where dementors are mentioned should probably say something about the charm.
Then we could just ask the librarian for a book with more info about it.
I did say more like transfiguration...
If there is no difference in DC for the two spells why bother making two options? Harry should know how the spell works, which is why I asked for confirmation.
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[X] Seal the damn room; then we have two rather hulking 11 year olds plus a Malfoy in front of a sealed door and can get the rat at our leisure? (Also doors are much easier to HIT than running rats).
-[X] If he escapes for some reason, don't think and act fast. Open Hedwigs cage and follow her to her new target. The Hunt begins, on today's menu: a little Wormtail.
-[X] Once the room is sealed, don't wait. Immediately attempt to stun the rat while its disoriented. If Ron objects, warn him that his rat is not his real pet but an imposter and an evil shapeshifter rat wizard assassin! (since everyone knows normal rats can't be evil).
--[X] If evil shapeshiter rat wizard assasin is stunned, immediately force him to his human form and check his stats and name with mage sight. Then petrify him, bind him with conjured ropes and send someone to get help fromprefects/adults while we stand guard over the evilshapeshifter (previously rat now human) wizard assassin!
[X] Seal the damn room; then we have two rather hulking 11 year olds plus a Malfoy in front of a sealed door and can get the rat at our leisure? (Also doors are much easier to HIT than running rats).
-[X] If he escapes for some reason, don't think and act fast. Open Hedwigs cage and follow her to her new target. The Hunt begins, on today's menu: a little Wormtail.
-[X] Once the room is sealed, don't wait. Immediately attempt to stun the rat while its disoriented. If Ron objects, warn him that his rat is not his real pet but an imposter and an evil shapeshifter rat wizard assassin! (since everyone knows normal rats can't be evil).
--[X] If evil shapeshiter rat wizard assasin is stunned, immediately force him to his human form and check his stats and name with mage sight. Then petrify him, bind him with conjured ropes and send someone to get help fromprefects/adults while we stand guard over the evilshapeshifter (previously rat now human) wizard assassin!