The Power(Harry Potter/The Gamer)
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[x] Suggest playing a game.
-[x] Teach them D&D since you have the rules memorized.. You know Hermione brought her dice...
[x] "So... Couple of things... First, you're introducing yourself first by your surname. Indicating that you believe your family to be of the utmost importance, even more than your own identity. Then you re-introduce yourself, using your first name and your last name. Do you have a middle name? And, is that your actual full name? (Harry is wondering if he can find out Draco's True Name, which, per most magical systems, gives you some power over others. He has previously determined he will not give his full name to anybody at school, just in case.
Secondly, you're automatically assuming a superior position over not only everyone in the room, myself included, by stating your knowledge and position is inherently better. Or, you could be offering yourself to my service... So, can you perhaps clarify which position\stance you're taking? Because, understanding your baseline position might help me decide what kind of motivation you have, which subsequently would give me something to help me navigate this kind of thing."
-[x] Teach them D&D since you have the rules memorized.. You know Hermione brought her dice...
[x] "So... Couple of things... First, you're introducing yourself first by your surname. Indicating that you believe your family to be of the utmost importance, even more than your own identity. Then you re-introduce yourself, using your first name and your last name. Do you have a middle name? And, is that your actual full name? (Harry is wondering if he can find out Draco's True Name, which, per most magical systems, gives you some power over others. He has previously determined he will not give his full name to anybody at school, just in case.
Secondly, you're automatically assuming a superior position over not only everyone in the room, myself included, by stating your knowledge and position is inherently better. Or, you could be offering yourself to my service... So, can you perhaps clarify which position\stance you're taking? Because, understanding your baseline position might help me decide what kind of motivation you have, which subsequently would give me something to help me navigate this kind of thing."
Maybe a little, but I don't think that's a bad thing. And transfiguring Poker Chips (from buttons probably) probably isn't that complicated. It's not even alive.
Right now might not be the best time though.
That is also almost completely OOC, sadly. Harry isn't one for such eloquant statements, and elaborate positing.
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This is basically the same as the canon response Harry gave him. Beginning start of rivalry again.
Sounds like an even ruder response then canon, so possibly even worse of relationship between us.
The seats are already beginning to feel cramped, probably room for one more, but we can cleary see him and Ron don't get a long.
He's mad about having his name made fun of, he doesn't understand that he anounced it like James Bond. Understandable considering he's a full blooded wizard so he wouldn't recognize the reference, otherwise he probably would have avoided stating his name like that, maybe we should explain this to him?
Really I don't like none of the options given above it's either kicking him out regardless which results in giving us negative points with him or inviting which causes more problems between him and Ron....
I think I will wait till later to decide what to vote.
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Not quite. Canonically, Harry implied that Draco was the wrong sort. Here though, we are just saying that we don't need his assistance since we already got it covered.
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Only if you ignore what Harry's canon response was actually saying, namely "you are the wrong sort". This one's just saying "no thanks, I'm set."
Yes, but this Harry has an INT score of 25, and has been exposed to the Magical World, knows a bit about Blood Bigotry, has Gamer's Mind and has consumed a LOT of books. So, you can't really count his OTL responses to be anywhere near accurate for this Quest.
I know. But that still doesn't mean he's the kind for such eloquent statements, and elaborate positing. Maybe if his INT/WIS score was 50, or a 100, he could do that, but not as is.
@Halpo133 Fairly unrelated to the current topic, but something that would be useful to know for the future (and something Harry should know).
The Shrinking Solution, is it a potion that must be drunk to work, or can we throw it on the target (like Zombie Legion) and have it still work? And how permanent is it?
The Shrinking Solution, is it a potion that must be drunk to work, or can we throw it on the target (like Zombie Legion) and have it still work? And how permanent is it?
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[X] Suggest playing a game.
-[X] Teach them D&D
[X] Invite him in, to join in the conversation/game, but explain you don't have room for his friends in the compartment as well.
Lets defuse the situation. They will be hunting goblins in no time.
If Poker wins, lets buy the whats left of the candy truck again (it costed 1 galleon in canon, right?) and use as chips.
-[X] Teach them D&D
[X] Invite him in, to join in the conversation/game, but explain you don't have room for his friends in the compartment as well.
Lets defuse the situation. They will be hunting goblins in no time.
If Poker wins, lets buy the whats left of the candy truck again (it costed 1 galleon in canon, right?) and use as chips.
He didn't buy the whole trolly. No reason we can't though. We are loaded.
Probably best to hunt something other than Goblins, given Goblins are people in the HP universe. Might be best for Harry to just do some homebrew and add in some more familiar magical creatures that exist in the HP universe and would be fair game for hunting. Either that or just some other D&D monsters that are easy to kill. Hell, maybe zombies would be good, and have the enemy be an evil necromancer.
[X] Suggest playing a game.
-[X] Teach them D&D, they'll probably enjoy it since it has all sorts of magic and stuff and also it may help farm Int and such things.
[ ] Thank him for his time but explain that you already have friends capable of helping you figure these things out.
Meh. Draco's a dick. Could we change him? Maybe. Do I care enough to try? Nope.
EDIT: Vote change.
[X] Explain the Bond joke to calm him down.
-[X] Thank him for his time but tell him its allright. You already have detect evil spell so you don't need help figuring these things out.
--[X] Demonstrate the spell. Surely there is no evil in the compartment right now, though. Then again... CONSTANT VIGILANCE!
-[X] Teach them D&D, they'll probably enjoy it since it has all sorts of magic and stuff and also it may help farm Int and such things.
Meh. Draco's a dick. Could we change him? Maybe. Do I care enough to try? Nope.
EDIT: Vote change.
[X] Explain the Bond joke to calm him down.
-[X] Thank him for his time but tell him its allright. You already have detect evil spell so you don't need help figuring these things out.
--[X] Demonstrate the spell. Surely there is no evil in the compartment right now, though. Then again... CONSTANT VIGILANCE!
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Since we're innately a wizard, I think getting the Genius, Sensible, and Limber traits should be first on our agenda. In that order.
Can we get the Animagus trait without spending points on it? Going through the canon method, or unlocking it some other way?
Can we get the Animagus trait without spending points on it? Going through the canon method, or unlocking it some other way?
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I like this response. I am not sure that it is one that an 11 year old would make - even one boosted by the Gamer ability. It kind of reminds me (not trying to be offensive) of the Harry from Methods of Rationality.
Unfortunately, we don't seem to have any abilities that boost our speech/persuasion/whatever.
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A few problems with that.
1) Harry has no idea what the hell a true name is, if such exists in the potterverse. And if they somehow do, despite never once being mentioned in the books, I would tend toward a true name not being the name you're given at birth but another name that represents the very core of your being. The reason he's not giving out his surname is because he knows that Harry Potter is the Boy-Who-Lived and a bit of a celebrity. He wants to enjoy time as just 'Harry, wizard'.
2) Harry, for all that he is The Gamer and has an incredibly high int for his age, is 11. Further he hasn't shown any propensity for knowing how to manipulate someone to the extent that is implied in that speech.
3) Harry only found out about the magical world a month ago. And he still hasn't read the books on wizarding culture and law. For all he knows introducing oneself surname first is standard for wizarding families. Sure he knows Neville and Susan didn't. But they're also 11 and could have made a mistake. Children aren't known for having the greatest grasp of manners.
From the wiki page and what I know if it I'm going to say that one has to be drunk in order to work. Though with enough potions ability you could likely make something to do the same thing but on contact. As for duration... Probably not permanent but the duration would depend on quality of ingredients, how well brewed it was, and a number of other factors. Something a student made? Couple hours. Something a potions master made? Days.
About what level of skill would you say we need to make a version that we can toss on a target, and it work? Cause the ability to shrink our enemies could be rather handy.
believe it or not, I don't expect true names to be a thing... But Harry isn't sure if they are or aren't... Most RPG magic systems, and most fantasy novels, have True Names a thing, so he's going to try it... OOC, it's a red herring and I know it.
But, we COULD get an Oratory skill out of this... Or Speech or something similar.
But, we COULD get an Oratory skill out of this... Or Speech or something similar.
We are eleven years old. Seriously, no one speaks like this. Much less a child. I mean, I can't even begin to picture 11 year old Harry Potter, Gamer power or not, ever speaking like this.
Thank you. Also, I think we should always keep that in mind when planning responses and other actions. When someone starts planning an action involving Harry speaking so ridiculously eloquently, just ask yourself if you can honestly say it makes sense for someone that young to ever speak that way.
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Respectfully, Hermione is pretty close to that, and honestly, I, personally, DID speak similarly to that... I was reading at a college level, and had to interact\hobnob with the upper crust during the summers (my grandmother was a player in the Santa Barbara social scene (Civic Light Opera, Symphony League, Womens' Club, etc.) Of course, I know I'm not a normal person, even at the age of 11... But, that's what happens when one of the first books you remember reading is\was 'Animal Farm' by George Orwell... (Not claiming I understood everything then that I do today, but it IS a book about talking animals on a farm...)
That's actually really interesting. I certainly wasn't like that around that age. I wasn't bad or anything and I also enjoyed reading, but certainly not at college level.
My main point is that this thread is about Harry, not members of SV pretending to be Harry. Maybe I'm just not normal in this situation, but one of the things I was interested in was how 11 year old Harry would interact with the other students with his special abilities building up his confidence. Having him basically skip all development and go all out eloquent out of nowhere feels like it would just hurt the quest. Again though, maybe I'm just crazy for thinking that way.
Anyway, I had a question. I get why Hermione and Hannah reacted that way to Draco's introduction, but why did Ron laugh? I didn't think he would have understood that reference.
[x] Suggest playing a game.
-[X] Exploding snap
Train luck! Or dex! Or Pain Tolerance in case it explodes in our hand!
[X] Invite him in, to join in the conversation/game, but explain you don't have room for his friends in the compartment as well.
-[X] Exploding snap
Train luck! Or dex! Or Pain Tolerance in case it explodes in our hand!
[X] Invite him in, to join in the conversation/game, but explain you don't have room for his friends in the compartment as well.
I'd suggest either introducing them in the reverse of what Observe says, or changing Observe to be the opposite of what was said. As it is, it reads like they did introduce themselves correctly.
I feel like this is very out of character for Hermione. As a bullied person, why would she default to making fun of someone's name? ...Especially considering she's sharing a compartment with someone named Longbottom.
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Ron laughed because the guy was being a pretentious prick. Or because his name sounded funny.