The Power(Harry Potter/The Gamer)

We can get it then, or we can get it now. At the rate Gamer-powers progress, especially with dedicated grinding (which Harry hasn't been doing yet), that one week could very easily translate into 50 extra levels.
Plus, like i said, who knows what goodies the Setting Menu has, assuming that it can be aquired in the same action (another thing I'm asking Halpo, and if it can't, I would just change my suggested vote to add that on).

Harry isn't to the point where he can grind that efficiently,

I'm asking Halpo about that, because there seems no in-universe reason why that should be. Each time-slot is a whole day after all, and if we have a dedicated shopping day, we should have plenty of time to get all our heart desires.

It has never been stated that each action is a full day, and given how Halpo explained the resting thing with the first training with Moody I don't think that's true at all.
 
You mean these fanon non existant things of non existance?

When the bell rang at last, Snape held them back. "You will each write an essay, to be handed in to me, on the ways you recognize and kill werewolves. I want two rolls of parchment on the subject, and I want them by Monday morning." (PoA pg 172/129)

[Remus Lupin]"He assigned that essay hoping someone would realize what my symptoms meant..." (PoA pg 346/253)

I guess this random example (found 'cause I am not wasting time trawling through the books to type up some more, even though another obvious one is when Snape calls roll for the first time in first year) is also from fanon then. Dang, fanon is getting fancy since it looks like the real book!

As far as we know Snape got good results as a teacher through a combination of being good at Potions and fear as a motivational tool. In fact paradoxically the ones most hurt by his favoritism were the Slytherins since they were less incentivized to learn.

Also yes this is relevant since it will prevent nonsensical plans to oust Snape or make him stop being mean, like thousands of bad fanfics, when we should be focusing on the big picture.

Lastly remember we are at neutral relations with Snape. Let's avoid gratuitous shenanigans that would get us back in his bad books.
While I don't remember seeing any information on whether he got good results or not, I am just basing my belief on current teaching standards as well as a bit of psychology. With fear as a motivational tool, I would hate the subject as much as the teacher using it. And remember, these are young children.

True, I have to agree with you on those grounds since I have seen too many bad fanfics that used those cliches. Still, getting an oath from Dumbledore not to inform others about this without our permission would have been a requirement.

It just seems that the books reveal the worst of Snape while the movie does more to show him in a more humane light. This is a perfect example:


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These are the things I care about in this selection:

[X] Meet with Hermione to study

[X] Meet with Madam Bones and Susan
-[X] Optional: Tell Madam Bones about your Gamer Power(Takes 1 additional time slot, special event)[Edit: Only if you can get an oath that she wont inform anyone else of this without your permission.]

[X] Have Moody remove Dudley's Tail(+relationship with Dudley, -amusement from Dudley having a pig's tail)

[X] Train with Mad-Eye Moody(Increase to defense, and potential of increase to physical stats)

[X] Write a letter to Neville
 
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[X] Have Moody remove Dudley's Tail(+relationship with Dudley, -amusement from Dudley having a pig's tail)
[X] Train with Mad-Eye Moody(Increase to defense, and potential of increase to physical stats)
-[X] Second slot on Mad-Eye Moody.
-[X] Third slot on Mad-Eye Moody.
-[X] Fourth slot on Mad-Eye Moody.
-[X] Fifth slot on Mad-Eye Moody.
-[X] Sixth slot on Mad-Eye Moody.
that is a tempting plan... especially with the fact that training with moody is mostly "defense" and that we have a 2x modifier to learning speed on that from our wand
and that high defense will greatly benefit us when fighting monsters in dungeons, meaning we can grind monsters faster
 
that is a tempting plan... especially with the fact that training with moody is mostly "defense" and that we have a 2x modifier to learning speed on that from our wand
and that high defense will greatly benefit us when fighting monsters in dungeons, meaning we can grind monsters faster

Variety is the spice of life. Pure, undiluted, repetitive, grinding is boring. We should alternate somewhat.
 
Harry isn't to the point where he can grind that efficiently,
"Observe literally everything" is a rather minor progression to becoming "Grinding Master". It's a easy thing to do, and rather simple to think of. If we can remove the problems with using it on literally everything (having to say stuff), there's no reason he can't do it.
It has never been stated that each action is a full day, and given how Halpo explained the resting thing with the first training with Moody I don't think that's true at all.
He said each time-slot consists of a day. While we don't necessarily spend the whole day doing it, it does have its own day. The main reason why we had been grinding the way we have been (very sub-par) was because of the way we were phrasing it. He grinded until he leveled up once in the class quest, and then stopped, because he did what we told him to do.
 
"Observe literally everything" is a rather minor progression to becoming "Grinding Master". It's a easy thing to do, and rather simple to think of. If we can remove the problems with using it on literally everything (having to say stuff), there's no reason he can't do it.

We cannot observe everything without looking weird regardless of whether we're saying the words or not. It requires we stare at the object we're wanting to observe.

He grinded until he leveled up once in the class quest, and then stopped, because he did what we told him to do.

Go back and read the first vote for leveling the class quest - it specifically stated to go down the path further.
 
When the bell rang at last, Snape held them back. "You will each write an essay, to be handed in to me, on the ways you recognize and kill werewolves. I want two rolls of parchment on the subject, and I want them by Monday morning." (PoA pg 172/129)

[Remus Lupin]"He assigned that essay hoping someone would realize what my symptoms meant..." (PoA pg 346/253)

I guess this random example (found 'cause I am not wasting time trawling through the books to type up some more, even though another obvious one is when Snape calls roll for the first time in first year) is also from fanon then. Dang, fanon is getting fancy since it looks like the real book!
What does this have to do with talking about Dumbledore in the post chain I quoted?

Of course Snape favors his own house.

Literally every head of house favors their own house and their houses premier subjects. I want to know what Dumbledore favors slytherin and not whatever house harry's in.

And on the non subject thing. Potion is a dangerous subject and a strict reading shows him as less personable than Mc Gonnagal but also less harsh. She does have a you screw up you get out policy. He's just kind scary about not blowing yourselves up.
 
To guys voting for plans training with Mad Eye.

We got basically nothing the last time training with him.
So our first training with Mad Eye gave us:

[5 levels in perception gained]
[10 levels in defense gained]
[2 points dex gained]
[2 points vit gained]

While our 2nd,3rd and 4th gave us:

[Defense increased by 14]
[Perception increased by 20]
[Physical Endurance increased by 10]
[Vit increased by 1]
[Dex increased by 2]

Unless Mad Eye steps up the training we'll likely not see any increase in Vit and Dex.
Defense gain has gone down from 10 levels for one training to an average of 5 (which means that it'll lower than that next time). The likely level gain for defense was 7 levels for the 2nd time, 4,5 levels for the 3rd and 2,5 levels for the 4th.
Perception actually increased gain this week, but it'll eventually decline.

It might not be that likely for Mad Eye to step up the training, Harry is an 11 year old after all. Moody is not likely to cast cutting charms on Harry while Harry does squats so that he can improve his physical endurance faster while training Vit.

Maybe it's time to grind levels by killing zombies? Using Disillusionment, scent removal, sound dampening charm and smite evil for that extra stealth damage should be effective.

If we continue to train with Mad Eye we need to ask him to make the work out even harder.

@Enjou
We can expect zero stat gain from training with him once and maybe two levels in defense.

It's better to do a plain grind level dungeon run.
 
We cannot observe everything without looking weird regardless of whether we're saying the words or not. It requires we stare at the object we're wanting to observe.
Han Jee-Han didn't need to stare at stuff. A mere glance along with saying Observe was enough.
Go back and read the first vote for leveling the class quest - it specifically stated to go down the path further.
Further, both times you all have picked the dungeon running it's been with conditions. Namely working on class quests. I'm not trying to screw you all over, and I don't offer troll options. That said, I'm also not going to make things super easy for you(The Gamer as a power does that already). If you say you're going dungeon running to advance a class quest, that's what Harry does. If you say you're going dungeon running to grind XP, that is what he'll do.
That, combined with our utterly slow progression (which was the topic of that entire conversation), rather gives the impression that he didn't. Han Jee-Han is able to gain 4 levels in 2 hours. We gained almost 1 over however long we spent in there. And considering the class-quests are basically "Kill zombies this way", it isn't due to us doing things other than killing zombies, that leads me to assume he just stopped after completing it.
 
Literally every head of house favors their own house and their houses premier subjects. I want to know what Dumbledore favors slytherin and not whatever house harry's in.
are you suggesting that dumbledoor is not completely impartial and objective when he does things like "and now lets award last minute points to gryffindor taking it from last place to first place, and with a flick of my wand I am removing the slytherin banners from the great hall at the moment of their celebration to give the cup to gryffindor"
 
are you suggesting that dumbledoor is not completely impartial and objective when he does things like "and now lets award last minute points to gryffindor taking it from last place to first place, and with a flick of my wand I am removing the slytherin banners from the great hall at the moment of their celebration to give the cup to gryffindor"

To be fair "defeated the Dark Lord" is worth a hell of a lot more than Quiddich points or good answers in class.
 
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To guys voting for plans training with Mad Eye.

We got basically nothing the last time training with him.


@Enjou
We can expect zero stat gain from training with him once and maybe two levels in defense.

It's better to do a plain grind level dungeon run.

We will get some gain, and in fact more gain in Defense than we're going to get by grinding it alone. Moody gives a significant modifier to learning Defense.


Han Jee-Han didn't need to stare at stuff. A mere glance along with saying Observe was enough.

The GM has stated that we stare at stuff when activating the skill. We know that the Gamer ability does not work 100% as canon The Gamer, so I'm going off the GM's statement.

That, combined with our utterly slow progression (which was the topic of that entire conversation), rather gives the impression that he didn't. Han Jee-Han is able to gain 4 levels in 2 hours. We gained almost 1 over however long we spent in there. And considering the class-quests are basically "Kill zombies this way", it isn't due to us doing things other than killing zombies, that leads me to assume he just stopped after completing it.

This is literally the winning vote for our first dungeon run:

[] Run dungeons!
-[] Use Magic Missile and Smite to kill Zombies to complete the Mage and Paladin class quests. (if you can go further into these or other DD class quests while doing your dungeon running, do so)

If the GM just up and stopped Harry right there, then he didn't actually go by what we voted for, and I don't think he'd have done that. The GM has stated that Harry is not doing things as efficiently as he can in general because unlike Han Jee-Han he is not a gamer and doesn't fully understand powergaming, but will ratchet up his pace as he figures things out. This is why I'm voting to bring Moody along to see if he can advise us on being more efficient on killing Zombies, as it'll probably accelerate that.
 
[X]Plan jaiveer00

[] Have Moody remove Dudley's Tail(+relationship with Dudley, -amusement from Dudley having a pig's tail)
[] Train with Mad-Eye Moody(Increase to defense, and potential of increase to physical stats)
-[] Second slot on Mad-Eye Moody.
-[] Third slot on Mad-Eye Moody.
-[] Fourth slot on Mad-Eye Moody.
-[] Fifth slot on Mad-Eye Moody.
-[] Sixth slot on Mad-Eye Moody.

I believe this is our last week of having a competent DADA teacher for a while. Let's utilize it and leave social interactions with our peers for Hogwarts. We'll have plenty of time there to make connections.
 
What does this have to do with talking about Dumbledore in the post chain I quoted?

Of course Snape favors his own house.

Literally every head of house favors their own house and their houses premier subjects. I want to know what Dumbledore favors slytherin and not whatever house harry's in.

And on the non subject thing. Potion is a dangerous subject and a strict reading shows him as less personable than Mc Gonnagal but also less harsh. She does have a you screw up you get out policy. He's just kind scary about not blowing yourselves up.
I'm just going to break this down as simple as possible:

Dumbledore is fallible.

Dumbledore trusts Snape.

Snape can't let go of a grudge.

Example:
"Snape made it worse, my scar always hurt worse after lessons with him —" Harry remembered Ron's thoughts on the subject and plunged on. "How do you know he wasn't trying to soften me up for Voldemort, make it easier for him to get inside my —"

"I trust Severus Snape," said Dumbledore simply. "But I forgot — another old man's mistake — that some wounds run too deep for the healing. I thought Professor Snape could overcome his feelings about your father — I was wrong."
Order of the Phoenix, chapter 37

While we may be on neutral terms, that may not always be true and I wouldn't trust him with important secrets. Or the old, fallible man that trusts him and, you know, makes mistakes. Even then, he says he trusts him, present tense, even after Snape couldnt let go of his grudge for something as important as keeping the Dark Lord out of Harry Potters head.

Benjamin Franklin said it best: "Three may keep a secret, if two of them are dead."
 
I'm just going to break this down as simple as possible:

Dumbledore is fallible.

Dumbledore trusts Snape.

Snape can't let go of a grudge.

Example:
"Snape made it worse, my scar always hurt worse after lessons with him —" Harry remembered Ron's thoughts on the subject and plunged on. "How do you know he wasn't trying to soften me up for Voldemort, make it easier for him to get inside my —"

"I trust Severus Snape," said Dumbledore simply. "But I forgot — another old man's mistake — that some wounds run too deep for the healing. I thought Professor Snape could overcome his feelings about your father — I was wrong."
Order of the Phoenix, chapter 37

While we may be on neutral terms, that may not always be true and I wouldn't trust him with important secrets. Or the old, fallible man that trusts him and, you know, makes mistakes. Even then, he says he trusts him, present tense, even after Snape couldnt let go of his grudge for something as important as keeping the Dark Lord out of Harry Potters head.

Benjamin Franklin said it best: "Three may keep a secret, if two of them are dead."

Harry is not the center of the universe though, like many teenagers, he thought he was for a while there.:p
 
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If the GM just up and stopped Harry right there, then he didn't actually go by what we voted for, and I don't think he'd have done that. The GM has stated that Harry is not doing things as efficiently as he can in general because unlike Han Jee-Han he is not a gamer and doesn't fully understand powergaming, but will ratchet up his pace as he figures things out. This is why I'm voting to bring Moody along to see if he can advise us on being more efficient on killing Zombies, as it'll probably accelerate that.
Eventually the amount of time you'd set aside has passed, and you'd easily completed your second class quest. You thought about continuing on, after all it was good XP, but you don't want Moody to worry. He'd probably yell at you if you took too long. So you use ID break and look over your notifications.
He did stop us. Especially since we only completed 1 class quest level, and I don't recall us even having progress into the next one done.
 
We will get some gain, and in fact more gain in Defense than we're going to get by grinding it alone. Moody gives a significant modifier to learning Defense.

Moody gives a 0.5 defense gain(we have x2 already), but at this point we'll only gain 2 defense levels at most. Since stat points can be used without affecting those bonus grind points, we'd be better of grinding an actual level or two.
 
I think I'm going to abstain for the time being. Unless we need a tie breaker before the vote is closed. Then you can expect me to drop in and vote on the one I like best... Or the one I dislike least. Whatever happens.

Regardless I like how things are progressing. I don't really have any strong feelings on how we spend our time, other than of course not telling another soul(besides Moody) about being the gamer. I'm up for learning more about the gamer ability and training with Moody, but even if we could add Moody to our party it's be next to useless. Since it's been shown in the gamer that if a party member is over your level by too much your XP gain is crap. And I'm going to assume that Moody is considerably higher level than we are.

We should probably learn necromancy at some point too. I mean, we can likely carry corpses around in our inventory. One animate dead spell and we've got instant access to undead allies no matter where we are. Not to mention one of the major cannon throwdowns, when voldemort is returned to his body, is in a graveyard. Necromancers and graveyards go together like Hermione and books. Now I'm not saying this event is still going to happen. But it could. CONSTANT VIGILANCE!

And hey, if undead aren't your bag. Or you don't want them in our bag, this is harry potter, drop a few statues, manaquins or what have you in our bag a few runic animation spells and there we go ready made allies as well.

Another, much more boring option. Man there sure are a lot of unemployed werewolfs in the world. Be nice if there was a nice, non prejudiced young man with a vault full of gold and ways to easily grind loots around... Oh wait, that'd be us. Plus, I'm sure there are plenty of other witches and wizards that could use work.

Oooooor, my personal favorite. Monster party. We become as close as possible to Hagrid, show an interest in Care of Magical Creatures, drop some hints that it sure would be nice to have some cooler pets, or something along that line of thinking and BAM! We're well on our way to being a beast master. With things like Cerberus, blast ended skrewts, sphinx, dementors? Maybe, nundu, basilisk, I mean hells bells people there are literal canon books dedicated to all of the animals that can kill whole groups of fully grown, fully trained wizards.

Have I mentioned lately that I know where we can get access to a baby dragon? lol
 
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