Some of the Voters seems to have appeared only to Vote to no tell, maybe some did not read the GM post.
The Power(Harry Potter/The Gamer)
- Thread starter Halpo133
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How long has it been since you read the canon, just out of curiosity?
In which case Dumbledore is a dick to expect Harry to reveal his most important secret to a guy he does not know at all and has a very neutral (10/30 infact!) relationship. Harry does not know Dumbledore IC yet, and has no reason to believe he is a good man IC. Why should he? Harry does not KNOW Dumbledore at all. Dumbledore is basically a total stranger to Harry.
As for the idea that this is a test. Personally I think these kinds of tests (especially considering that again, the two don't know each other at ALL) feel more like the kind of things the fanon!evil!manipulative!Dumbledore would use. I could maybe buy it if this was something like 3rd+ year Harry and if there had been other signs to make Dumbledore worry. But we are talking about Harry who is meeting Dumbledore to the 2nd time (first time in private), and has not even officially started school yet.
If Dumbledore does know, and his first assumption upon Harry not revealing his deepest secrets to a total stranger on their 2nd meeting is: "Harry is obviously untrustworthy!", then screw him. Thankfully, we have a sane Dumbledore so I don't see that happening.
While you make some good points this still does not address the issue of Dumbledore watching Harry more carefully for his own good. One does not have to believe a child is inherently untrustworthy too keep a better watch on him for his own safety.
We'll have another week before school starts.
edmantgoog
init high just high
[X] Don't tell Dumbledore about being the Gamer.
-[X] Mention something else: that the Minister wants to meet you with some friend of his. You feel a bit strange meeting the leader of magical Britain.
there is no IC reason to tell him anything
-[X] Mention something else: that the Minister wants to meet you with some friend of his. You feel a bit strange meeting the leader of magical Britain.
there is no IC reason to tell him anything
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I wish I could like this multiple times.
Please explain? The GM post says:
Voting for nothing except "don't tell" is basically Harry going "No, nothing strange has happened". Perfectly acceptable. Most add other stuff such as talking to the snake or the meeting with the minister and so on as either distractions or small symbols of trust (or both), but just denying that anything odd is happening is a perfectly valid vote.
Meh, we shall see how the man acts I guess. I am open to talking to him later, after we get to the school fulltime, and after we get relationship to friendly (and possibly talk to Moody or even Fawkes).
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You are assuming that people are voting not to tell him because they thing "dumbledoor is evil" (as the typical joke on list based humor sites goes)
But the reason I voted not to tell him is not because I don't understand him, I think we should tell him. But in character harry has no reason to trust him yet. I want to have a coherent story where dumbledoor earns our trust and thus our secret, rather than telling him purely based on OOC knowledge
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I have no problem with people voting to not tell Dumbledore because people believe he hasn't given us any IC reason to trust him. However, there are a few people who base their reasoning on Evil!Manipulative!Dumbledore and that gets very annoying very quickly.
If you want IC reasons to tell him...
1. To the best of our knowledge, he's done nothing but protect us. Want to see what happens to us if he doesn't? Look at the Longbottoms.
2. He's the best wizard of the 20th century and may know how the hell we got this new power. (Remember, if you guys want to bring up IC knowledge, Harry doesn't know that being The Gamer is something very unique and would be naturally curious as to whether someone else out there has the same powers as him. Who better to ask then the greatest mind of the wizarding world?)
3. From all accounts Harry has of Dumbledore, (Harry has certainly come across references to Dumbledore in his books) Dumbledore has a sterling reputation.
4. If we were to ask Moody, the guy we already trusted, he would undoubtedly agree to tell Dumbledore. If I recall cannon correctly, Moody had the highest regards for Dumbledore.
5. We are going to his school and there is a good chance he'd find out anyways.
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Dumbledore value freedom of choice? I don't think so.
He maybe value choice but not more than security,and what is society that put security more than freedom of individual?Tyranny.
Harry try to use choice everytime that he want to stayaway form Dursley that is his "choice".
Pettunia and Vernon don't want Harry in their house,that also their "choice".
But Dumbledore convince them to stay together anyway.
For the greater good is fanon,young Dumbledore come up with it and regret later but core of his being stay the same.He is great like everyone think of him but not enough to do everything at the same time.
I don't said about being monster,Dumbledore has good intention at heart.
That why I alway see him as very talent Percy.
He maybe value choice but not more than security,and what is society that put security more than freedom of individual?Tyranny.
Harry try to use choice everytime that he want to stayaway form Dursley that is his "choice".
Pettunia and Vernon don't want Harry in their house,that also their "choice".
But Dumbledore convince them to stay together anyway.
For the greater good is fanon,young Dumbledore come up with it and regret later but core of his being stay the same.He is great like everyone think of him but not enough to do everything at the same time.
I don't said about being monster,Dumbledore has good intention at heart.
That why I alway see him as very talent Percy.
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Nowhere in cannon did Dumbledore force the Dursley's to accept Harry. He didn't threaten them in any way, shape, or form. He told them what happened to the Potters and how accepting Harry into their house would protect him. It was the Dursley's CHOICE to accept Harry. It was Harry's CHOICE to stay with the Dursleys.
This Dumbledore bashing is getting way out of hand so this'll be my last post on the topic so the mods dont have to step in. Again.
people, just focus on the quest. lest we incur the wrath of the mods again.
Master Basher
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[X] Tell Dumbledore about being the Gamer.
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1. by placing us with the dursleys, this is actually a strike against him
2. what does it matter how we got it? and being awesomely powerful is actually a reason to fear him not trust him
3. harry is a muggle raised kid who has nearly zero info about wizard society. he knows nothing about dumbledoors reputation
4. we didn't ask, and he didn't suggest it, and so far in the meeting it looked like he wanted to hide it. We can ask him after the meeting and then go by his suggestion (because we can always tell dumbledor later, we can't untell him)
5. assuming a disturbing amount of surveillance on the students, and us being indiscreet
People there are twice as many votes against than there are for. As much as I think not telling him is a mistake I do not think the vote can flip anymore.
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1. Who else was he going to place us with? The Longbottoms were skilled Aurors and they got wrecked. You want a safe Harry or dead Harry?
2. Harry gets a new power he doesn't know the limits of. Maybe someone in the wizard world knows something more about his powers. OOC, we know that's not true but IC, Harry would probably want to find out more. Why should we fear Dumbledore if we are awesomely powerful? Again, he's done nothing but protect us to the best of our knowledge.
3. Harry has to have read a few wizarding books by now. (Didn't we vote on a few?) He has to have come across Dumbledore by now.
4. Point.
5. Dumbledore fights wizards like Wizard Hitler and Voldemort on a day to day basis. An eleven year old kid isn't fooling him.
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There were multiple ways to mitigate things. A fact that was in fact demonstrated in this story. Moody is basically living in the house, and apparently the blood protections work great.
Moody did not know, and he is both highly experienced and highly paranoid (meaning he would try to prepare for even obscure abilities). Harry would realise that even if its not unique, its very uncommon.
Probably, but he has also discovered wizarding books about himself.
Makes propaganda about Dumbledore more suspect.
a) No he does not fight them on a day to day basis.
b) Since our abilities are pretty OCP, the possibility of fooling him is quite possible. Oh he might figure out something is odd, but the odds he would figure out the truth are very small.
c) Many here don't want to tell him on our 2nd meeting ever (1st personal meeting). Things might be different once we actually enter the school, have a chance to interact with Dumbledore and generally learn more about the guy IC (and ask Moody about him for example). As was pointed above, we CAN still tell him about this later.
This may be a test, but if Dumbledore is fishing, I think he's wise enough to understand why Harry may not be ready to talk. It's not like the same situation (Harry clamming up) hasn't happened in canon, after all. ("I must ask you, Harry, whether there is anything you'd like to tell me," [Dumbledore] said gently. "Anything at all.")
Granted, that was after he'd already gotten to know Harry, while this meeting may set the tone of our early relationship, but I'm sure he'll forgive us if we're a little shy.
Both the honest and reticent options are legitimate IC choices.
Did the GM say they prefer more substantial posts? Just wondering, since I jumped in fairly recently.
I think Harry can tell the difference between A History of Magic and Harry Potter and the Naughty Nundu...
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To be fair, some fanfics and all are better than canon in regards to plot holes and mistakes. A result of the first couple books being pretty solidly kids books, then graduating to young adult later on. And some fanfics are absolutely horrid about sticking to canon, but can be a fun read. I had to go back before starting this quest, no matter what was chosen, and read the first book. And I still have it sitting on my desk for reference.
That said, this is sticking to canon(as much as it can with the inevitability of you all driving it off the rails), so people will act as they did in canon, or as best as I can get them to without being the original writer.
I do like well thought out write-ins when they're there. But it's not a requirement.
Further, in regards to if Dumbledore knows... You don't know this IC, but to stop the discussion on that, at least, I'll tell you. He doesn't. Moody hasn't told him. He's not fishing for information, he was more trying to see if Harry noticed any thing strange like... Oh... Say people in dark robes and funky masks hanging around, people dressed oddly, and so on. Trying to see if anyone has tried getting at him since Harry showed up in Diagon Alley and the Ministry.
Also: Voting closed
Vote tally:
##### 3.21
[X] Tell Dumbledore about being the Gamer.
No. of votes: 13
Dimensionist, AZATHOTHoth, Unelemental, mysterius, Corvo Montés, Dr. Bob Doom, Larekko12, Dirk93, CatScannerDarkly, Ambit, DragonParadox, Antumbra, Master Basher
[X] Mention something else(write-in)
-[X] That you talked to a snake during your cousins trip to the zoo.
No. of votes: 1
NeverDies
[X] Don't tell Dumbledore about being the Gamer.
-[X] Mention something else: that the Minister wants to meet you with some friend of his. You feel a bit strange meeting the leader of magical Britain.
No. of votes: 22
Atri, Mindless Drone, Great_BrightSlap, GulibleLeprecon, Den18, Lalzparty, Kaioo, inawarminister, Alanek, Crazy7s1, Carrnage, 3ofspades, Amatsumi, TMIoverload, Kliden, mrttao, Silversun17, Myrzael, owrtho, Bloodalchemy, edmantgoog, Edkose
[X] Don't tell Dumbledore about being the Gamer.
No. of votes: 21
NegativeHorizon, R. E. Lee, Usernames, Zimary, saskakachi, Langly, Torgamous, Heretek, Goldfish, Void Stalker, Darklord., pinkturnip, Grass, tenchifew, Kurowari, Daniel14541, Blue Odin, useofstrike32, Brain_Caster, Cytokinesis, Valor
[X] Say that there are two things we want to talk about, one of which we definitely want kept a secret because we'd rather not be treated like a freak.
-[X] Tell Dumbledore about being the Gamer.
-[X] Also mention talking to a snake at the zoo, and ask if that's normal.
No. of votes: 9
mrmiffmiff, Brandark, Manavz, The Zog, Riggnarock, Cjdavis103, veekie, RandomLurker, Deathstorm50
[X] Don't tell Dumbledore about being the Gamer.
[X] Mention something else(write-in)
-[X] That you talked to a snake during your cousins trip to the zoo.
No. of votes: 4
Erehwon, Enjou, will408914, KnightofTempest
[X] Say that there are two things we want to talk about, one of which we definitely want kept a secret because we'd rather not be treated like a freak.
-[X] Ask Moody to secure the room.
-[X] Ask Dumbledore if he can make it any more secure. Only then...
-[X] Tell Dumbledore about being the Gamer.
-[X] Also mention talking to a snake at the zoo, and ask if that's normal.
No. of votes: 3
Sol Mark-1, Godwinson, Ishaq
[X] Don't tell Dumbledore about being the Gamer.
-[X] Mention something else: that the Minister wants to meet you with some friend of his. You feel a bit strange meeting the leader of magical Britain.
-[X] Also mention talking to a snake at the zoo, and ask if that's normal.
No. of votes: 3
Datakim, Kerfirou, WCSII
[X] Tell Dumbledore about being the Gamer.
-[X] Ask Dumbledore to secure the room
--[X] Mention the quest to cure Neville's parents. Maybe Dumbledore can provide books to help us cure them.
----[X] Also mention talking to a snake at the zoo, and ask if that's normal.
No. of votes: 1
Lucky777
[X] Say that there are two things we want to talk about, one of which we definitely want kept a secret because we'd rather not be treated like a freak.
-[X] Ask Moody to secure the room.
-[X] Ask Dumbledore if he can make it any more secure. Only then...
-[X] Tell Dumbledore about being the Gamer.
No. of votes: 1
solodark28
[X] Don't tell Dumbledore about being the Gamer.
-[X] Also mention talking to a snake at the zoo, and ask if that's normal.
No. of votes: 1
Gen.Raven
[X] preface it with asking them to keep this secret. you had been treated like a freak most your life you do not want to go though that again or get experimented on by crazy wizards
-[X] Tell Dumbledore about being the Gamer.
No. of votes: 1
RulerOfNothing
[X] Check to make sure it is DD.
-[X] Tell him about the snake.
No. of votes: 2
LightMage, skaro
[X] Don't tell Dumbledore about being the Gamer.
-[X] That you talked to a snake during your cousins trip to the zoo.
No. of votes: 1
Marcus.D.Basterd
##### 3.21
[X] Tell Dumbledore about being the Gamer.
No. of votes: 13
Dimensionist, AZATHOTHoth, Unelemental, mysterius, Corvo Montés, Dr. Bob Doom, Larekko12, Dirk93, CatScannerDarkly, Ambit, DragonParadox, Antumbra, Master Basher
[X] Mention something else(write-in)
-[X] That you talked to a snake during your cousins trip to the zoo.
No. of votes: 1
NeverDies
[X] Don't tell Dumbledore about being the Gamer.
-[X] Mention something else: that the Minister wants to meet you with some friend of his. You feel a bit strange meeting the leader of magical Britain.
No. of votes: 22
Atri, Mindless Drone, Great_BrightSlap, GulibleLeprecon, Den18, Lalzparty, Kaioo, inawarminister, Alanek, Crazy7s1, Carrnage, 3ofspades, Amatsumi, TMIoverload, Kliden, mrttao, Silversun17, Myrzael, owrtho, Bloodalchemy, edmantgoog, Edkose
[X] Don't tell Dumbledore about being the Gamer.
No. of votes: 21
NegativeHorizon, R. E. Lee, Usernames, Zimary, saskakachi, Langly, Torgamous, Heretek, Goldfish, Void Stalker, Darklord., pinkturnip, Grass, tenchifew, Kurowari, Daniel14541, Blue Odin, useofstrike32, Brain_Caster, Cytokinesis, Valor
[X] Say that there are two things we want to talk about, one of which we definitely want kept a secret because we'd rather not be treated like a freak.
-[X] Tell Dumbledore about being the Gamer.
-[X] Also mention talking to a snake at the zoo, and ask if that's normal.
No. of votes: 9
mrmiffmiff, Brandark, Manavz, The Zog, Riggnarock, Cjdavis103, veekie, RandomLurker, Deathstorm50
[X] Don't tell Dumbledore about being the Gamer.
[X] Mention something else(write-in)
-[X] That you talked to a snake during your cousins trip to the zoo.
No. of votes: 4
Erehwon, Enjou, will408914, KnightofTempest
[X] Say that there are two things we want to talk about, one of which we definitely want kept a secret because we'd rather not be treated like a freak.
-[X] Ask Moody to secure the room.
-[X] Ask Dumbledore if he can make it any more secure. Only then...
-[X] Tell Dumbledore about being the Gamer.
-[X] Also mention talking to a snake at the zoo, and ask if that's normal.
No. of votes: 3
Sol Mark-1, Godwinson, Ishaq
[X] Don't tell Dumbledore about being the Gamer.
-[X] Mention something else: that the Minister wants to meet you with some friend of his. You feel a bit strange meeting the leader of magical Britain.
-[X] Also mention talking to a snake at the zoo, and ask if that's normal.
No. of votes: 3
Datakim, Kerfirou, WCSII
[X] Tell Dumbledore about being the Gamer.
-[X] Ask Dumbledore to secure the room
--[X] Mention the quest to cure Neville's parents. Maybe Dumbledore can provide books to help us cure them.
----[X] Also mention talking to a snake at the zoo, and ask if that's normal.
No. of votes: 1
Lucky777
[X] Say that there are two things we want to talk about, one of which we definitely want kept a secret because we'd rather not be treated like a freak.
-[X] Ask Moody to secure the room.
-[X] Ask Dumbledore if he can make it any more secure. Only then...
-[X] Tell Dumbledore about being the Gamer.
No. of votes: 1
solodark28
[X] Don't tell Dumbledore about being the Gamer.
-[X] Also mention talking to a snake at the zoo, and ask if that's normal.
No. of votes: 1
Gen.Raven
[X] preface it with asking them to keep this secret. you had been treated like a freak most your life you do not want to go though that again or get experimented on by crazy wizards
-[X] Tell Dumbledore about being the Gamer.
No. of votes: 1
RulerOfNothing
[X] Check to make sure it is DD.
-[X] Tell him about the snake.
No. of votes: 2
LightMage, skaro
[X] Don't tell Dumbledore about being the Gamer.
-[X] That you talked to a snake during your cousins trip to the zoo.
No. of votes: 1
Marcus.D.Basterd
Edit: Pretty solidly not telling Dumbledore, with mentioning the trip to the Ministry having enough of a majority there for it to be added.
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*puffs up happily* "It is a rather spiffing hat, isn't it, my dear boy?"
Zimary
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True. As for the people saying he was one of the good guys, whats your explanation for the decade of favoring Slytherin over the others no matter what they did and basically destroying one of the subjects for everyone else? What exactly did he do for Dumbledore during that time that made such a thing worth it?