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The Power(Harry Potter/The Gamer)

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Trondason said:
The shopping is less for the books, and more for any neat magical items we might find. There are probably tons of neat things that might be useful in some situation, and given both our limitless storage space, and our almost limitless money, we can get those things. I'm particularly interested in what's down knock-turn alley if we can go shopping down there, especially particularly the Vanishing Cabinet if it's on sale, since that links to the Room of Requirement which also has lots of neat stuff.
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We have no in character reason to go down a shady alley we know nothing about, and we don't need the Vanishing Cabinet to get into the Room of Requirement - we just really need a place to train some particular skill, and the room should provide if we need it enough. Since the Gamer always needs to grind, I'm thinking it might be enough.

Also, that Vanishing Cabinet is not inside the Room of Requirement at this time. It's also broken. Draco moved it in and repaired it during sixth year. As such, it's rather useless to us at this time.

Plus, can't owl order muggle books.
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We can't shop for muggle and magical stuff with the same action, and unless we're going to do something that generates some muggle money we'd have to take another action doing odd jobs around the neighborhood which makes it into two actions. I think we've got enough muggle books for now. We can always go on another shopping trip during Christmas break (with Moody living with us, we have a reason to go back) after we'll likely have gotten some muggle money from dungeon runs.
 
@Trondason, that doesn't seem like a huge downside. There are only a handful of things in Harry Potter that are shown to use memories. Notably Dementors, Legilimancy, Memory Charms, and those brains in the Department of Mysteries. Of those only the first two use the targets own memories. Seeing as Harry can read the skills, he would specifically know to be wary of memory based attacks, and could take efforts to learn to protect against them.

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Enjou said:
We have no in character reason to go down a shady alley we know nothing about
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Curiosity. That is good enough reason, especially if we go invisible, and/or have Mad-Eye Moody at our back.
Enjou said:
Since the Gamer always needs to grind, I'm thinking it might be enough.
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And we always have a place to train. A ID. Those can be made anywhere, and are empty of anyone else.
Enjou said:
Also, that Vanishing Cabinet is not inside the Room of Requirement at this time. It's also broken. Draco moved it in and repaired it during sixth year. As such, it's rather useless to us at this time.
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Oh. Thought it was always down there. I stand corrected. It's still a handy room to have access to, especially with all the stuff in it. Lets see what else we can arrange.
Enjou said:
We can't shop for muggle and magical stuff with the same action, and unless we're going to do something that generates some muggle money we'd have to take another action doing odd jobs around the neighborhood which makes it into two actions.
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The day is long enough that we should be able to get both at once. And if money is the only issue, Gringotts handles exchanges between Wizard and Muggle money.
Enjou said:
I think we've got enough muggle books for now
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We don't NEED anymore, sure. But we don't need cookies, and cookies are awesome. We can get some really neat stuff that we would have to wait half a year to get otherwise, so why not get it now?
 
Enjou said:
I'm thinking we should...
1. Meet with someone. (Bones family?)
2. Meet with a second friend. (Neville, probably since we didn't last week)
3. Train with Moody
4. Train with Moody
5. Train with Moody
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I think one of those Moody trainings should be replaced with an in-depth attempt to nonverbalize generic Gamer commands/telepathic menu control, and the other should be replaced with an action to develop our ability to use skills nonverbally, since we have a WoG stating both things are doable, but require dedicated research.
 
owrtho said:
@Trondason, that doesn't seem like a huge downside. There are only a handful of things in Harry Potter that are shown to use memories. Notably Dementors, Legilimancy, Memory Charms, and those brains in the Department of Mysteries. Of those only the first two use the targets own memories. Seeing as Harry can read the skills, he would specifically know to be wary of memory based attacks, and could take efforts to learn to protect against them.

owrtho
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The bonus doesn't seem big enough for any of the penalty though. Especially since we CAN do without, and there are other good traits we can get.
mrttao said:
So... what does occulmency defend against that is not already blocked by gamer mind?
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Gamer's mind doesn't keep people from looking, just making changes.
 
Trondason said:
And we always have a place to train. A ID. Those can be made anywhere, and are empty of anyone else.
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Some skills require things we don't have to grind. The Room of Requirement can provide them. For instance, suppose we wanted to practice lockpicking to get the Thief quest up - we could look for the room, and it would provide us with a room filled with practice locks and lockpicking tools. If we wanted to train the Fighter questline, it would provide a room filled with swords and practice dummies. Things like that. Basically the room would provide a multiplier to training particular things, I think.

Trondason said:
The day is long enough that we should be able to get both at once. And if money is the only issue, Gringotts handles exchanges between Wizard and Muggle money.
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Sorry, but the GM classifies them as two actions.
 
I would say:
1- Close to the chest.
1.1- Repetitive pshycal training is perfect for training Occlumency.
2- Friends, at last!
2.1- Meet with Hermione, study and have some ice cream. Make plans to meet up at the Express.
3- Shopping Spree 3 - Now It's Personal
3.1- Buy investigation/larceny books (Sherlock, Agatha Cristie, Frech guy someone mentioned, maybe Call of Ctulhu), who knows when it might be handy.
3.2- A first grade lockpick set and a pair of handcuffs (that's legal most places, I think Britain became facis- the way it is a few years later). For the Grind!
3.3- A first grade dagger, for it's thousands of uses. Every gentleman must have one on his person, maybe splurge for Dragon Bone?
3.4- How to learn French, German and Japanese in X Easy Steps. Dictionary included.
3.5- If having trouble buying those, ask Moody (but explain your reasons, mainly, contingencies).
4- Plan Don't Look Like a Loon
4.1- Learn how to use our interface and our skills voicelessly and motionlessly.
5- Traning time feat. Zombies!
5.1- Train with Moody inside a ID, use half the training time to focus on getting some XP, but no reason to not use your Wizard skills to do it! And maybe you should put that Sneak Attack to good use. Now say with me: Magic Missile!
6- Training with Moody, Hell Limited Edition!
6.1- Last week, better make good use of that dueling room!
7- Level up baby!
7.1- Thief! Use your shiny new lockpicks to practice on your shiny new lock, you never know when you are going to be cuffed without your wand. And those Stealth and Sneak bonus are calling for you. Half a day of this should net you a few levels.
7.2- Priest and Paladin training.


I don't really care about Ron, always found him somewhat annoying. Hermione and Neville (now that his own wand isn't sabotaging him) are nice and kick ass. I don't remember Susan very well, but she sounds nice and certainly has potential with Amelia Doesn't-Care-About-Imperius Bones being her aunt.
 
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If we don't become friends with Rom who will?! Dean? We got to care about out future red headed minion.
(Is there a chance if Ron doesn't talk to us he could go to slytherin?)
 
AZATHOTHoth said:
If we don't become friends with Rom who will?! Dean? We got to care about out future red headed minion.
(Is there a chance if Ron doesn't talk to us he could go to slytherin?)
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No real chance of him going to Slytherin. His whole friggin family went to Gryffindor. We can be acquaintances/friends easily enough, but I don't see our Harry laching onto him, he was pretty much the first person our age to not be a dick. We already know Nivelle and Hermione.
Ron's behavior is also going to clash with our's. I don't really see him in "the Crew". Hey, there are already 7 books and 8 movies about that, maybe we should change things a little.

But that's just my opinion.
 
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KnightofTempest said:
Ron isn't essential. He's a shitty friend and a poor student. We don't need him. . .
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I get poor student, I mean so was Harry but whatever. But shitty friend? Not really. There was the bit in 4th year, but that isn't really that bad. And the bit during the seventh book? I'd like you to do better with a mind twisting dark artifact around your neck 24/7. Hell. He literally is prepared to die for Harry in the first book.
 
TotallyNotEvil said:
3- Shopping Spree 3 - Now It's Personal
3.1- Buy investigation/larceny books (Sherlock, Agatha Cristie, Frech guy someone mentioned, maybe Call of Ctulhu), who knows when it might be handy.
3.2- A first grade lockpick set and a pair of handcuffs (that's legal most places, I think Britain became facis- the way it is a few years later). For the Grind!
3.3- A first grade dagger, for it's thousands of uses. Every gentleman must have one on his person, maybe splurge for Dragon Bone?
3.4- How to learn French, German and Japanese in X Easy Steps. Dictionary included.
3.5- If having trouble buying those, ask Moody (but explain your reasons, mainly, contingencies).
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Don't forget a magical shopping spree as well. With a whole day dedicated to it, don't see why we can't do both. Plus, we need Muggle Money, and Gringotts just so happens to handle exchanges.
TotallyNotEvil said:
4- Plan Don't Look Like a Loon
4.1- Learn how to use our interface and our skills voicelessly and motionlessly.
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The interface and skills will take two separate actions.
 
Tylonius said:
I get poor student, I mean so was Harry but whatever. But shitty friend? Not really. There was the bit in 4th year, but that isn't really that bad. And the bit during the seventh book? I'd like you to do better with a mind twisting dark artifact around your neck 24/7. Hell. He literally is prepared to die for Harry in the first book.
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Ron explicitly ended his Friendship With Harry during Goblet of Fire over petty Bullshit. I call that being a shitty friend.
 
Trondason said:
Don't forget a magical shopping spree as well. With a whole day dedicated to it, don't see why we can't do both. Plus, we need Muggle Money, and Gringotts just so happens to handle exchanges.

The interface and skills will take two separate actions.
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Well, no Moody x Zombies then.

I agree, four hours in the morning and another 4-6 in the afternoon are plenty to drop by a couple bookstores, a curio shop, an hour for lunch, and drop by Gringotts and take a stroll down Diagon Alley and pass by an artisan shop for a nice dagger (we seriously need a dagger), Moody should know a good one, and get years 4-7 books. Knight Bus is helicopter fast and Moody could even teleport us to Diagon Alley.

We, if GM does say no, I'd rather drop Occlumency than, say, Hermione (no pressing need and no real progress in a day).
 
KnightofTempest said:
Ron explicitly ended his Friendship With Harry during Goblet of Fire over petty Bullshit. I call that being a shitty friend.
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He grew up with multiple brothers who are all extremely competent and his best friend happens to be the most famous celebrity in the whole wizarding world. I'd LOVE to see anyone have to deal with something like that 24/7. Also, he's 14 and friends fight at times. Can we PLEASE stop bashing characters needlessly?
 
Manavz said:
He grew up with multiple brothers who are all extremely competent and his best friend happens to be the most famous celebrity in the whole wizarding world. I'd LOVE to see anyone have to deal with something like that 24/7. Also, he's 14 and friends fight at times. Can we PLEASE stop bashing characters needlessly?
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That, or bash everyone. Have to be fair. I can think of instances where everyone was a idiot. Harry, Hermione, Ron, Snape, Dumbledore, Nevile, Voldemort, none of them are safe.
 
Manavz said:
He grew up with multiple brothers who are all extremely competent and his best friend happens to be the most famous celebrity in the whole wizarding world. I'd LOVE to see anyone have to deal with something like that 24/7. Also, he's 14 and friends fight at times. Can we PLEASE stop bashing characters needlessly?
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In the broad scheme of things, Ron is a net negative. He is lazy and encourages Harry to be mediocre. For a normal teenager, this would still be detrimental, but ultimately unimportant. For the "Chosen One" who is being targeted by one of the nastier Dark Lords in the last half century, it is a potentially life threatening risk. Dropping Ron and starting a friendship with the twins early would be a huge improvement - they are kind of assholes, but they are self-taught potion geniuses.
 
Fredo said:
He is lazy and encourages Harry to be mediocre
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Should be negate-able with us at the wheel. Maybe even make him productive, when we bring him in on our Gamer secret, he would probably have tons of fun killing monsters.
I am not suggesting we get him, I don't see much benefit in doing so, just saying that he wouldn't be bad for us, doing so would seem to be net zero in usefulness to me.
Fredo said:
but they are self-taught potion geniuses.
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Do we need that? Snape is also a potion genius, and he's definitely on our side as long as Dumbledore is, and we might even get him to like us.
Plus, there's always the fact that anything they can do, we can learn to do better. We are just OP.
 
Fredo said:
In the broad scheme of things, Ron is a net negative. He is lazy and encourages Harry to be mediocre. For a normal teenager, this would still be detrimental, but ultimately unimportant. For the "Chosen One" who is being targeted by one of the nastier Dark Lords in the last half century, it is a potentially life threatening risk. Dropping Ron and starting a friendship with the twins early would be a huge improvement - they are kind of assholes, but they are self-taught potion geniuses.
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Using that logic, being friends with Hermione should've made Harry a book nerd. Harry, like 99% of teenagers, prefers to slack off and Ron doesn't make him do anything he doesn't want to. People need to stop blaming Ron for Harry's shortcomings.

Edit: Ron is far from a net negative. He's decently skilled at magic and through him, you gain access to the rest of his family. You know, dragon tamers and curse breakers?
 
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About theiveing skill.well maybe we can pick lock our selves and theiveing Dudley computer or equipment if we want,I just not encourage to do something illegal,Maybe Moody can help us with thieveing by practice us on infiltrate mission.

Also everyone seem forgot that Voldermort is grown up in muggle orphan around ww2,He know pretty well about muggle culture and weapon.
 
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