The Perfectly Normal High School: A Slice of Life Quest! (Defunct)

I'm not preferring one vote over another. Really.

I guess the way I worded that implies a preference, and I recognize that the fact that I'm keeping the vote open just seems to be in ill-faith.

...now that I think about it, it really does look suspicious. :<

But, I really am not delaying closing the vote hoping that the vote changes. Honest. My main reason for wanting to delay it was that I'm still working around in my head how to roll for the RikuRiku event - I've got to make it something interesting but mechanically consistent, after all!

I'm really sorry that it seems like I am trying to manipulate the votes. I promise that I have no vested interest in any of the vote choices.
There is some ongoing interest in the setting. Like, why is it so cold in Mihoku? Are they far up north? Was there a cataclysm of something during the last war? Don't they have a Weather Control Station to take care of this? What is it for, and how much can it do, anyway? Big Sister implies she can make this kind of weather artificially if she so desired.

The world tech level is pretty curious... on one hand we still have TV, smartphones and text chats... on another, drones, sentient AIs and weather control. Close enough to ours, yet futuristic at the same time.
For background information like this, I plan to dripfeed in the next news update. That's still a thing, don't worry!
How many languages are taught in Mihoku? They are bound to have close contact with Ambernians and Pravs (if only by virtue of territory conquest), but is there anyone else? No one did bat an eyelid when Silas said he was half-Ozzetch. Does he speak Ozzetch? Or do they speak Mihokujin?
1) Mandatorily, two. Besides the language of the country, Amberrish (both spoken and written) is required for political and cultural reasons. Pravic is an optional course available to schools that request it; Miyao, so far, has not requested a Pravic educational language package. Because most of the jungle/island nations to the south teach their students how to speak Mihokugo out of principle, most schools in Mihoku proper do not teach the native languages of those countries, although private tutors are usually available in large cities like Miyao.

2) No one bat an eyelid when Silas mentioned his nationality because few were paying attention, and the few that did assumed he misspoke and was saying he was part of some culture in the Mihoku periphery.

No one in Silas's class knows what Ozzetche is. Except for his senseis, of course. It's a rather obscure country, after all, and it only shows up occasionally.

Notice my wording. It's important! :D
Basically, are events like this scripted to happen once in a while (maybe because of the mood? or Big Sister's absense? or what?), or are they a gaming mechanics ruled by stats and rolls?
It was a direct result of Big Sister's absence. I was going to make that more and more apparent as the week progressed, but honestly I don't trust myself to finish the week in a timely-enough matter for the revelation to be rewarding.

Don't worry, though! It will only get worse. *evil cackling*
Does it make sense to have a separate suboption dedicated purely to relationship with Big Sister, or do they get rolled under our common activities? What do we need to choose to be able to have a conversation like the one we did during our first weekend?
...hum, that's strange, I could have sworn "Just talk" was an option the whole time...

I'll fix that, though! Yes, if you want to have Silas talk socially with Big Sis, that'd be for the relevant suboption.

I had some questions about the last update.
And I have answers! :D

I forgot to add that tidbit into Shinohara and sensei's conversation, but Shinohara's parents opted her out of most physical education classes. She spends that time studying, occasionally.

As for that other part...

That's actually going to be a gag somewhere down the line. Whenever you see something that implies Silas knows something that you don't, know that it is definitely intentional!
 
Anyway, I'm fine with using subvotes in order to qualify your option, but most of the things under [AS] (Event) Visit the Hypermall with friends and celebrate RikuRiku go a little bit too far. Mostly because you're assuming that the event will be a success - I still have to roll dice, ya know!
Hey, it was worth a shot.

Also the nature of your subvotes are kind of railroady... I mean, I want to be able to write the narrative myself, after all.
This is the first time I've seen the GM complain about being railroaded...
I mean, in-context it makes sense, but out-of-context it's kinda funny.
GreatWyrmCold, some of your quotes from other players got unquoted and invisitexted.
If it was the invisitext quotes about invisitext

The first one is, pretty transparently, an anagram of Matsuoka Yumika. The second one is harder, but Reizei's sister's name is Nanako, so that would be him. Made really obvious by his angry outburst. However, Nanako is not his twin sister, unless there is something weird going on...
I'm not exactly great at anagrams.
I completely forgot Reizei had a sister at all.

You forgot to 'X' that vote.
What vote?
Thanks.
[X] [-] Keep trying to contact Maeda.

Karnewarrior meant SELF, as in, the Federation, not the Foundation. I know, it's easy to confuse the two. The interest in one does not guarantee the interest in the other, especially if you aren't Empowered.
I'm not sure I follow. SELF is intended as a check on the Federation, no? So wouldn't that be kinda like someone being interested in the USSR but not caring about the existence of NATO, except with less violence?

The two of them aren't liabilities on purpose. They just have traits that make keeping secrets harder.
I'm pretty sure they count as net assets. Unless I've seriously underestimated how ditzy Rakuyama is.

The world tech level is pretty curious... on one hand we still have TV, smartphones and text chats... on another, drones, sentient AIs and weather control. Close enough to ours, yet futuristic at the same time.
We still use cars, and they've been around for more than a century...to say nothing of inclined planes and pulleys Some forms and functions continue to be useful long after they're invented.
One borrowing is enough to trigger the Ben Franklin Effect; if we keep at it, we're just going to become annoying, and not in a good way.
...
Is it just me, or are the shipping plans starting to sound a bit creepy and pick-up-artist/stalker-ey to anyone else?

Tch, how dare you Nevill
Oy, what are you implying?
 
...oi, spoiler blocking doesn't change that you're still basically spaghetti posting.

Also, you still have fucked up quotes in your last spoiler blocked mass response.
 
I'm not preferring one vote over another. Really.

I guess the way I worded that implies a preference, and I recognize that the fact that I'm keeping the vote open just seems to be in ill-faith.

...now that I think about it, it really does look suspicious. :<

But, I really am not delaying closing the vote hoping that the vote changes. Honest. My main reason for wanting to delay it was that I'm still working around in my head how to roll for the RikuRiku event - I've got to make it something interesting but mechanically consistent, after all!

I'm really sorry that it seems like I am trying to manipulate the votes. I promise that I have no vested interest in any of the vote choices.
For the record, I don't feel like you're trying to manipulate the votes at all. I wouldn't feel like changing my vote because of that.
 
And I've never understood the problem with splitting up posts like that when you have multiple bits to respond to.


The Rules thread said:
Posting long spools of quotes snipped out of posts and responded to individually - "spaghetti posting" - is confusing and frustrating for users who are just browsing.
Plus it makes it hard to respond to without doing the same thing.
 
It also contributes to nitpicking and taking individual words or sentences out of context just to score debate points or whatever.
 
The Rules Thread said:
Posting long spools of quotes snipped out of posts and responded to individually - "spaghetti posting" - is confusing and frustrating for users who are just browsing.
Plus it makes it hard to respond to without doing the same thing.
The first is an assertion I've heard before, but never heard an explanation for why it would be more confusing and frustrating than someone responding to a monolithic block of text with another monolithic block of text. If you're not trying to follow the conversation, wouldn't you just scroll past in either case? And if you are, isn't it more convenient to have the point each counterpoint is responding to next to the original point, so you don't have to dig through the first block to find said point before finding your spot in the second?

The second is somewhat true, but I'd argue that it's also hard to respond meaningfully to any long post without spaghetti-posting. I mean, unless the whole post can be debunked with just a few sentences that apply equally to the whole thing, but anyone making an argument that long which can be taken down so easily has done something wrong.

It also contributes to nitpicking and taking individual words or sentences out of context just to score debate points or whatever.
I'm not entirely sure why some uses of spaghetti-posting being bad makes all uses of spaghetti-posting bad. I try to split apart individual points as best as possible, and while I'll freely admit I don't always succeed, it seems weird that my successes and failures are painted with the same brush.


So yeah, repeating the same things I've heard before still leaves me equally unenlightened about the problems with spaghetti posting. I still understand that people have problems with spaghetti-posting, but I don't understand why they don't have comparable or greater problems with every alternative I can think of which involves a halfway-decent response.
 
The best option, obviously, is to avoid making long posts, or strategically ignoring points that don't really matter.

In the end it's a rules thing. Even if they're stupid, it's usually smarter just to follow them and bring up your grievances formally with someone in charge. Maybe PM a mod or something?
 
It's a rule made for the local cesspit - er, Politics forum - where all arguments eventually devolve into an incomprehensible mess. It is healthier for a discussion to address not certain words and phrases taken out of context, but the argument as a whole. That said, when there isn't an argument, the value of enforcing said rule becomes rather negligible, and it is outright waived when one comments on the updates.

I personally believe your use of quotes is mostly fine, since you were responding to five different posts, and it is impossible to comment on that without liberal use of quoting. But this is hardly the place to discuss rules. If you are truly interested whether your post breaks the rules or not, you can always ask one of the mods about it. It's not like they will ban you, and you will know for sure instead of relying on interpretation of the rules from other users.

Aaanyway.
I'm not sure I follow. SELF is intended as a check on the Federation, no?
The SC is 'the Foundation', the Drama guys are 'the Federation'. We better not confuse them, or the intelligence reports are going to be a mess!

But what I meant was - Reizei and Rakuyama could be interested in the existence of the Foundation in order to avoid it and keep out of their way, but otherwise live normal lives, which would make them unwilling to join SELF... or they could be interested in hanging out with supernaturals without joining a conspiracy that puts them in danger of occasional mindwiping.

An interest in SELF and/or Foundation should not be confused for a desire to join either. Metropolitan Police would be most interested to find out about both, yet I am not certain they would be our allies.

As an aside, due to how the tally program works, your latest vote invalidates all the previous ones. You might want to take that into consideration.
 
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An interest in SELF and Foundation should not be confused for a desire to join either. Metropolitan Police would be most interested to find out about both, yet I am not certain they would be our allies.
I dunno. Unless Mihoku as a whole is pretty socially regressive, I doubt the police are going to have seriously hostile relations with what is for all intents and purposes a civil rights group. We're just the Anomalous equivalent to the NAACP, and thus far we've barely even convened, much less posed any serious threat to the Mihoku citizenry or agitated any people with the legitimate power. When/if we get into fights with the Foundation and start ripping up streets and such with superpowers, that's when we have to worry about people going Incredibles on us and trying to ban Shinohara from existing.

Which is why I would suggest we try to remain peaceable, and at least in the very beginning not to consider the SCP Foundation as "enemies" so much as "potential hostiles". We should be cautious, and not let them know we're looking into them until we're reasonably certain they won't get aggressive about containing the Specially Enabled. Remember that the Foundation also deals in non-sapients, whereas we probably won't even want to contain hostile or evil sapients ourselves; if we determine that the Foundation is willing to tolerate us existing, I would have no problem letting them have most or all of the Anomalous Objects and the 106's of the world. It's definitely possible we'll be working hand-in-hand with them, as long as they're willing to let us move forward with rights issues.
 
Don't know about you guys, but it was a surprise to hear Yumika talk over the smartphone. I mean, most schoolchildren do talk like that, and even some adults (squints at DreamerLuci), but... the way Silas talks IRL and on the Net is much more similar, is what I want to say. Maybe it's another aspect of her differentiating personalities? Does she sound the same way to you when in class, or presiding over the Drama sessions?

Dunno, I expect, say, Shinohara to be much more formal and 'proper' in her texts. At least as far as the grammar is concerned.

Yumika's text speak is pretty much exactly what I expected from her. Lots of enthusiasm and emoticons. As for Hana... I dunno. She's certainly a lot more reserved that Yumika, but at the same time I've noticed that ever since we officially became friends with her, shes actually surprisingly relaxed and casual.

Wait, what's that about Riku-nee?

I'm pretty sure this refers to the pact that she the has the same hair color and style as RikuRiku. And the same name. And also sings.

On the subject of Ozzetch:

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EXP. 1063.1.2

The city where Silas' passport was issued is German for "New Hope". So part of this worlds version of Germany/Europe? speaking of which:

Not!Europe are background characters who don't seem to have any significance in the plot but then in the second season suddenly turn out to be yakuza or Evangelion pilots or Magical Girls for some reason or whatever.
 
Yumika's text speak is pretty much exactly what I expected from her. Lots of enthusiasm and emoticons. As for Hana... I dunno. She's certainly a lot more reserved that Yumika, but at the same time I've noticed that ever since we officially became friends with her, shes actually surprisingly relaxed and casual.
She's quiet, yeah. I'd imagine she doesn't normally use txtspeak in every message, but some of the more regular ones have slipped in, like gtg or lol.

You know, just enough that her and Yumika's conversation is utterly illegible to her parents. :V
 
I'm pretty sure this refers to the pact that she the has the same hair color and style as RikuRiku. And the same name. And also sings.
Yeah, but.
Hana: Yeah I know
Yumika: lol is it that obvious?
Hana: heh
What does he make out of it? That RakuRiku is a RikuRiku fangirl? That RakuRiku is RikuRiku's prototype?
I mean, her name was supposedly given to her by her parents, so it must either be a giant coincidence, or she would logically come first.
 
Upon rereading the last omake, a couple of things have occured to me.

Firstly, Renji is a blond-haired boy who apparently has a twin sister. It's already pretty obvious that Riku is based on Miku Hatsune. So now I'm wondering, is it possible that Renji and his sister are similarly supposed to be Len and Rin?

Secondly, concerning just what the deal is with Ozzetch:
No one in Silas's class knows what Ozzetche is. Except for his senseis, of course. It's a rather obscure country, after all, and it only shows up occasionally.

Notice my wording. It's important! :D

Now this is an interesting one, the Inspector thought to herself. The document was tattered and old; Ozzetch passports, while valid, were very, very rare, mostly because the Ozzetchian continent did not dock on the mainland often.

"Does continental land exist west of New Africa and Pravdustan? Experts say: It's possible, but there's no way to be sure." - Akai Teikoku Shimbun

Okay. I think I get it. Ozzetch isn't a continent. It's a gigantic, mobile, artificial habitat the size of a continent.

Okay then.
 
Okay. I think I get it. Ozzetch isn't a continent. It's a gigantic, mobile, artificial habitat the size of a continent.

Okay then.

That or it exists in some form of anomaly where the land only exists sometimes. We are dealing with a world that has emotion eaters and living anti-memes.
 
So now I'm wondering, is it possible that Renji and his sister are similarly supposed to be Len and Rin?
Yeah, they are vocaloid expies.

I was under the impression that Nanako was the older sister who graduated, but apparently she just changed schools for a more prestigious one, and left the two behind.
Okay. I think I get it. Ozzetch isn't a continent. It's a gigantic, mobile, artificial habitat the size of a continent.
Hm. Atlantis?

This world certainly has some pieces of schizo-tech, so I wouldn't be surprised to find out Silas and/or Big Sister may have originated there.
 
The best option, obviously, is to avoid making long posts, or strategically ignoring points that don't really matter.
This is a nice idea, but it doesn't always work out in practice. First off, there's a tendency for people talking in threads where multiple things are being discussed to discuss multiple things; for instance, in this kind of game, we have multiple immediate actions to discuss, various competing long-term plans, people who don't quite understand the lore and/or player terminology (hi!), rules discussions, etc, and that's when everyone's staying on-topic.
Second...if a given point didn't matter, most people wouldn't make it in the first place. That's the thing—in a well-constructed argument, there are no points you can just ignore. There are very few people in this forum who write entire paragraphs that I can effectively counter with a sentence or two. (A mixed blessing; while that would be a time-saver, it would probably be a boring discussion.)

The SC is 'the Foundation', the Drama guys are 'the Federation'. We better not confuse them, or the intelligence reports are going to be a mess!
Too late, I'm already confused.

As an aside, due to how the tally program works, your latest vote invalidates all the previous ones. You might want to take that into consideration.
[X] [Event] Acquiesce to Yumika.
-[X] We're planning to introduce the other two to the Foundation, right?
[X] [AS] (Event) Visit the Hypermall with friends to celebrate RikuRiku.
[X] Tale of Merika (???)
[X] [-] Keep trying to contact Maeda.
This seems like it'd be a big help for the GM, especially in this kind of game, but it's tricky to get used to.

The city where Silas' passport was issued is German for "New Hope". So part of this worlds version of Germany/Europe?
Or possibly Tatooine?
 
I wouldn't mention the Foundation outright, or anyone connected to them. That seems like something it would be easy for the Computer Club to put a filter up for, so that they don't have to have a human sift through millions of texts from all over all the time. Instead, they only have to sift through the ones that say things like "Foundation", "SCP", or names like "Maeda" or "Ichiro".

Kind of like how the NSA isn't really tuning into your phone call until you say a trigger word that wakes up a bot to record it, like "Bomb" or such.
 
Fine, I'll clarify.

[X] [Event] Acquiesce to Yumika.
-[X] We're planning to introduce the other two to the Foundation once we get to the mall, right?
[X] [AS] (Event) Visit the Hypermall with friends to celebrate RikuRiku.
[X] Tale of Merika (???)
[X] [-] Keep trying to contact Maeda.
 
I meant by sending it over text message, to Yumika herself. Using the term "foundation" like that could give us away if they're using computers to wiretap at all.

The current vote uses Mystery instead because it's A) less likely to get caught in such a net, B) somewhat unclear without knowing the reference anyway (is it the Foundation? Just a random SCP? A missing bookbag? It'd take extra work to know.), and C) passes the information to Yumika succinctly and clearly while meeting the above criteria.
 
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