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The Long Night Part One: Embers in the Dusk: A Planetary Governor Quest (43k) Complete Sequel Up
- Thread starter Durin
- Start date
Shard
One and Many
- Location
- Malaysia
@Durin
1. Do we have any sources of increased EM income during the timeskip, for example from increased Mechanicus Population in the Large Hives? Are they significant?
2. What's the main source of our suddenly massive EM deficit? Did the Trust cancel the APA subsidies or somesuch? IIRC last turn we were at -160k EM/Year pre-trade.
edit: Reduced Promethium selling.
1. Do we have any sources of increased EM income during the timeskip, for example from increased Mechanicus Population in the Large Hives? Are they significant?
2. What's the main source of our suddenly massive EM deficit? Did the Trust cancel the APA subsidies or somesuch? IIRC last turn we were at -160k EM/Year pre-trade.
No, not an error, our Promethium reserves are ginormous.
edit: Reduced Promethium selling.
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- Location
- Peterborough, NH, USA
Much like our Metal reserves, yes.
Shard
One and Many
- Location
- Malaysia
Niflheim Trade is maxed out. In fact pretty much all sales are maxed out.
>.<
Shard
One and Many
- Location
- Malaysia
Vanaheim will be building ships constantly anyway. We don't need to allocate their ship production to Avernus. Just keeping Avernus afloat is going to triple our debt.
Time to look at spamming those Admin Effic actions.
Ships are not that expensive if we buy 100 escort cruisers that is 26,800 credits or 53,600 credits since we have to buy double for the tithe. So for about 268,000 we can buy enough to cover most of the cruiser we lost. That would give us 500 escort cruisers and 500 for the trust. Also people are wanting to away from light ships but we need them for harassment and to take hits for our larger ships. So while they are small they are also cheap to make something we need since we lost close to 1000 ships all together.
Shard
One and Many
- Location
- Malaysia
Sure, but Vanaheim will build those ships for the Trust anyway. We don't specifically need those ships, especially when we're going to be deep in dept.
We do need those ships we lost over a thousand ships and our navy is a about 75-73 percent of what it was. While Vanahiem continues to build ships they will not be Avernus ships.
Shard
One and Many
- Location
- Malaysia
What's wrong with them not being Avernite ships?
We are suppose to have our own fleet for when we assault worlds. Assaulting worlds is suppose to be Avernus speciality. Vanahiem is light ships or fast ships for harassment and long range patrols. Midguard is general and the Trust is too with a few speciality ships. About half the trust Heavier ships were from orders from Avernus. While there are capital ships Avernus tends to have more cruisers and battleships than other worlds which is needed for assaulting fortified locations in space.
Also while I got you is there a reason you are buying so little EM?
Shard
One and Many
- Location
- Malaysia
We have our own shipyard to produce them?
Also I am literally buying 40% of all EM being sold at the moment.
An amount that may actually rise >.<
According to Durin on the Discord our Psyler Hunters eat 500k EM. Seems like that's the cause behind our 600k EM expenditure per year spike? I was pretty sure the EM situation was supposed to be much better than this.
- Location
- Lowton
I would just like to note that it is Surts fleet that is for stealth and harassment Vanahiems is the best all rounder fleet of the trust from my memory.
More like no major war for 50 years. The local chaos forces will still plot our demise and counting on them not attacking us sooner rather than later is a bad idea.
The problem is comparative advantage with Vanahiem. Vanahiem has about 26 times our build capacity when it comes to ships. It be easier and faster for them to build 1000 escort cruisers than us. So while we do have build capacity I would like to use it to build Battleships or defense monitors for the new colonies. Because while we could build a 1000 escort cruisers it would take us centuries.
Shard
One and Many
- Location
- Malaysia
1. It's not like our military won't grow. We just won't focus on it as much.
2. Massive amounts of Eldar Minor Favors will have been mined by Ridcully which are utterly decisive in these kinds of conflict (Eldar assassination vs Chaos Leaders, summoning wandering T2 Waagh, etc).
Vanaheim will do that anyway, though. No need for us to put ourselves in debt.
- Location
- UK
The local Chaos forces will still be crippled for a long, long time after that.
Bear in mind that we have better tech than they do, higher average population, and that we had very limited casualties from the Tyranids compared to them, and that they were also embroiled in fighting the Orks. They not only suffered vastly more damage than we did, but they also don't have the same capabilities to recover from it.
Short of some Deus Ex Machina, we will be far too strong for them to meaningfully threaten us for a very long time.
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As we expand our military or navy so does the trust. Every warp ship has to have its equal value for the trust. So us buying heavy ships is something that helps the trust. Also we will be expecting a war in the next century as well as maybe a demon incursion. We should prepare now while we can. Also we need to rebuild the navy after fighting the tryanids we lost a lot of ships.
The local chaos forces significantly outnumber us. Also they have a mobility advantage that completely negates our force concentration. We need more ships because the enemy is significantly faster than us and can raid in places we will not be able to put a lot of ships at quickly. Turoq has are weakness down pat. We are about to be the largest sane power in Pacificus after the merger, we need to rebuild and if possible expand when we can during the next 50 years since durin will up the challenge level.
Excerpt from Wonder of the Wilds Publications: Into the Hangya Hills, pt 6
Omake: Excerpt from Wonder of the Wilds Publications: Into the Hangya Hills, pt 6
Part 5
The falling illusion revealed the hillside before us to be false: although heavily overgrown, the silhouette of an artificial structure was unmistakable. Extending out from a sheer cliff face was a curved wall of the same cut stones as the road we had followed. At the wall's center was an arched gateway partially blocked by the rotted remains of an ancient portcullis. Despite the obstruction, it was clear that the gate opened onto a courtyard or atrium of some sort. It was from this opening that the tiger had emerged.
Before we could approach we were treated to our second serenade courtesy of a distressed tangle-maw nanny. Fortunately my passenger did not join in on the chorus this time, instead opting to leap from her perch on my helmet pounce on the nanny, wrapping one of her vines around the older female's mouth to stifle the cry. I have observed tangle-maw territorial battles before, and this fight was unlike any I had witnessed. Under normal circumstances direct attacks against the body are avoided at almost all costs, with all efforts going towards severing vines and boxing the opponent in. The stowaway jill eschewed the normal tactics entirely, instead clinging to the bucking nanny's back for dear life. It was probably the unorthodox nature of the attack that allowed her to stand against the greater size, strength, and skill of the nanny at all. Even with the advantage of surprise it didn't look like jill would last long until the unthinkable happened. As the nanny finally battered her way through the jill's defenses to wrap a strong vine around her, the stowaway jack intervened[1], leaping forward from his perch on Cutipie to sever the offending vine at its root.
The shock of the event was enough to cause all three tangle-maws to freeze. For several second they stood stock still, the nanny rampant, the jill clinging desperately to her back, the male clutching the base of the severed vine in its mouth. The male was the first to break the tableau, dropping the offending vine and flattening itself to the ground of abject submission. Slowly, with deliberation, the nanny and jill disentangled themselves from each other and began to circle the male. After a full circuit the nanny hissed and struck. One primary vine wrapped itself around the male's core. Another gripped the base of a primary vine anchored behind his first set of limbs. With deliberate slowness, the nanny began to pull the two apart. Even as his flesh began to stretch and the vine began to tear free the jack offered no resistance beyond agonized whimpers.
Throughout this the jill had stood back, washing her first two sets of forepaws together with nervous energy as she watched. The sight of the male's blood as the vine began to peel away seemed to galvanize her. She sprung forward, severing the vine gripping the jack's vine before it could come fully away. The sight of the male's elastic flesh snapping back into place with enough force to rip it from the nanny's grip and send him tumbling away would have been comical under different circumstances.
The nanny rounded on the jill, shrieking in outrage. She was met with an equal ferocity from the younger female, and a chattering argument broke out. Their argument was punctuated by lashing vines and pointing paws as the two indicated the male, the gate, and our party in turn. At last the argument seemed to reach some sort of conclusion, with the nanny stalking off into the forest and the jill going to the side of the fallen jack. Cajoling paws brought the dazed male to his feet. After a brief exchange the two approached me, the female gesturing expansively.
Guessing her intent, I extended my arm to them. The jill swarmed up to resume her perch on my shoulder, followed shortly by the male.
With the unexpected drama concluded (and appropriately recorded for future Biologis analysis), our party was able to begin our exploration of the ruin.
[1] I am confident that this is the single instance of a male tangle-maw interfering in a female territorial fight recorded in the history of humanity's observation of the species.
@Durin
Part 5
The falling illusion revealed the hillside before us to be false: although heavily overgrown, the silhouette of an artificial structure was unmistakable. Extending out from a sheer cliff face was a curved wall of the same cut stones as the road we had followed. At the wall's center was an arched gateway partially blocked by the rotted remains of an ancient portcullis. Despite the obstruction, it was clear that the gate opened onto a courtyard or atrium of some sort. It was from this opening that the tiger had emerged.
Before we could approach we were treated to our second serenade courtesy of a distressed tangle-maw nanny. Fortunately my passenger did not join in on the chorus this time, instead opting to leap from her perch on my helmet pounce on the nanny, wrapping one of her vines around the older female's mouth to stifle the cry. I have observed tangle-maw territorial battles before, and this fight was unlike any I had witnessed. Under normal circumstances direct attacks against the body are avoided at almost all costs, with all efforts going towards severing vines and boxing the opponent in. The stowaway jill eschewed the normal tactics entirely, instead clinging to the bucking nanny's back for dear life. It was probably the unorthodox nature of the attack that allowed her to stand against the greater size, strength, and skill of the nanny at all. Even with the advantage of surprise it didn't look like jill would last long until the unthinkable happened. As the nanny finally battered her way through the jill's defenses to wrap a strong vine around her, the stowaway jack intervened[1], leaping forward from his perch on Cutipie to sever the offending vine at its root.
The shock of the event was enough to cause all three tangle-maws to freeze. For several second they stood stock still, the nanny rampant, the jill clinging desperately to her back, the male clutching the base of the severed vine in its mouth. The male was the first to break the tableau, dropping the offending vine and flattening itself to the ground of abject submission. Slowly, with deliberation, the nanny and jill disentangled themselves from each other and began to circle the male. After a full circuit the nanny hissed and struck. One primary vine wrapped itself around the male's core. Another gripped the base of a primary vine anchored behind his first set of limbs. With deliberate slowness, the nanny began to pull the two apart. Even as his flesh began to stretch and the vine began to tear free the jack offered no resistance beyond agonized whimpers.
Throughout this the jill had stood back, washing her first two sets of forepaws together with nervous energy as she watched. The sight of the male's blood as the vine began to peel away seemed to galvanize her. She sprung forward, severing the vine gripping the jack's vine before it could come fully away. The sight of the male's elastic flesh snapping back into place with enough force to rip it from the nanny's grip and send him tumbling away would have been comical under different circumstances.
The nanny rounded on the jill, shrieking in outrage. She was met with an equal ferocity from the younger female, and a chattering argument broke out. Their argument was punctuated by lashing vines and pointing paws as the two indicated the male, the gate, and our party in turn. At last the argument seemed to reach some sort of conclusion, with the nanny stalking off into the forest and the jill going to the side of the fallen jack. Cajoling paws brought the dazed male to his feet. After a brief exchange the two approached me, the female gesturing expansively.
Guessing her intent, I extended my arm to them. The jill swarmed up to resume her perch on my shoulder, followed shortly by the male.
With the unexpected drama concluded (and appropriately recorded for future Biologis analysis), our party was able to begin our exploration of the ruin.
[1] I am confident that this is the single instance of a male tangle-maw interfering in a female territorial fight recorded in the history of humanity's observation of the species.
@Durin
When I started writing this, I had intended it to be the party exploring the courtyard. Then this happened.
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dragon
Ancalagon the Black
- Location
- The Skies of Arda
As I understand it, planetary systems are allowed to replace battle losses in their navy without paying the tithe. The tithe was already payed when the ships were first constructed.
So, unless the fleet is expanding beyond it's previous size, there's no ship tithe.
So, unless the fleet is expanding beyond it's previous size, there's no ship tithe.
- Location
- western US
our planets local defenses are probably enough on their own, the local chaos took some very heavy losses if I recall correctly.
also keep in mind that we have rids as well as the order of omens both of which are much MUCH better then what the chaos are capable of stopping.
so they would have to arrange the war such that they attack us in multiple places to feint-attack us...this takes far more coordination then what they would have right now........and thats still assuming that they can get through our local planet defenses in the first place (which I doubt...we do have pretty good defenses on all of our planets, like 1-2 battlefleets equiv if I rermember right).
it would be relevent to doublecheck tho.
also keep in mind that we have rids as well as the order of omens both of which are much MUCH better then what the chaos are capable of stopping.
so they would have to arrange the war such that they attack us in multiple places to feint-attack us...this takes far more coordination then what they would have right now........and thats still assuming that they can get through our local planet defenses in the first place (which I doubt...we do have pretty good defenses on all of our planets, like 1-2 battlefleets equiv if I rermember right).
it would be relevent to doublecheck tho.
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- Location
- Omniverse #1345
We're dealing with very nasty EM and Throne deficits, both of which we desperately need to counter over the 50 year gap. This is not sustainable.