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The Long Night Part One: Embers in the Dusk: A Planetary Governor Quest (43k) Complete Sequel Up

Investigate the Sea?

  • Yes

    Votes: 593 80.4%

  • No

    Votes: 145 19.6%
  • Total voters
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Doomed Wombat said:
mmm well as has already been said he's not going to be much physically weaker, aside from a new weakness to Anti Tank weapons...and again anti tank weapons I think he was vulnerable to those already.

As for rumours of legendary healers...well there's one place where we're sure to find one, Trayzn's hidey hole, but aside from that if there were one who could help us in this I think the Eldar would have already dug em up. The galaxies best healer atm is Corvus and well...no dice.
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What was going on with Corvus anyway?
What was he busy with that he couldn't come?

Also, having given it more thought, I think another divination on securing the final results of hecatoncheir might be in order, because we might need to spend the favour to survive the Tyrannids.
 
thatguy said:
What was going on with Corvus anyway?
What was he busy with that he couldn't come?

Also, having given it more thought, I think another divination on securing the final results of hecatoncheir might be in order, because we might need to spend the favour to survive the Tyrannids.
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Because some people didn't want him too (for reasons I didn't agree with, but hey ho) so we didn't ask him early enough.

Functionally it likely didn't make too much of a difference, he trained his student very well.

Maybe. Just remember Rids is busy until year 5 next turn unless we drop nurgle research again.
 
Doomed Wombat said:
Hidden deep in the deepest vaults we have, where Scott intends to sit on it as long as possible.

It is now doubly unsafe, because if it was found out that we have it the admech might also find out that its the core of the STC as well.

Now that'd be a religious schism for the history books.
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Did we manage to confirm the design is related?
Doomed Wombat said:
Because some people didn't want him too (for reasons I didn't agree with, but hey ho) so we didn't ask him early enough.

Functionally it likely didn't make too much of a difference, he trained his student very well.

Maybe. Just remember Rids is busy until year 5 next turn unless we drop nurgle research again.
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You might have a point.
 
hm.....I think we should just assume that nurgle is going to invade, either cas he found out we were the ones in his garden or just unrelated reasons (do the gods really need reasons to do their whole "insanity" stichk?)

how do I know this?

cas in wh43k, bad things follow bad things and good things happen only because its a bad thing for other people. Since nurgle invading would be bad (right after this invasion too), I conclude that it will happen.

yeah I'm kinda joking.....but I'm also not. We should seriously keep a eye out and by eye I mean a rids-div on "nearest threat" when we can. we have already proven that the nids-battle being upcoming doesn't mean other bad things can't happen soon after. we haven't exactly done a threat-div since the nid-invasion was discovered afterall. So it would be preferable that we find out what the next big threat is, likely chaos or orks (back to the routine invasions I guess?)
 
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Dragon_352 said:
hm.....I think we should just assume that nurgle is going to invade, either cas he found out we were the ones in his garden or just unrelated reasons (do the gods really need reasons to do their whole "insanity" stichk?)

how do I know this?

cas in wh43k, bad things follow bad things and good things happen only because its a bad thing for other people. Since nurgle invading would be bad (right after this invasion too), I conclude that it will happen.

yeah I'm kinda joking.....but I'm also not. We should seriously keep a eye out and by eye I mean a rids-div on "nearest threat" when we can. we have already proven that the nids-battle being upcoming doesn't mean other bad things can't happen soon after. we haven't exactly done a threat-div since the nid-invasion was discovered afterall. So it would be preferable that we find out what the next big threat is, likely chaos or orks (back to the routine invasions I guess?)
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I bet the next threats include:
The mechanichus civil war, the local Necrons being bigger and more important than we realized, the local Slanneshi polity getting Dark Eldar support.

On that note I'm reminded I have some questions for @Durin
1. Is the Empire of Ashes particularly opposed to handing out info on Dark Eldar Tech? Exact capabilities, weaknesses, underlying physics and engineering choices, how to compromise their computer security, where the power button is and how to turn it off, etc.
2. What would that cost?

Also thinking of more Primarch resurrecting projects
3. Do we have any info on what the Blood Angels are up to?
4. Specifically whether they still have Sanguinious' corpse?
5. I know we've never researched this, but do we have any hint at what kind of undeadening would be needed to animate a Primarch?
 
Doomed Wombat said:
Well we asked the DAoT native Vlad who said yes of course, then we asked Tranth who said yes wasn't it obvious.

So I'd say decent confirmation.
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Tranth is hysterical to me cause he really is a scientist the conservatives should hate but he's so successful and good at avoiding having to talk about religious shit he's untouchable. He's in many ways Crawl without the ego.
 
Binge-Reader said:
Tranth is hysterical to me cause he really is a scientist the conservatives should hate but he's so successful and good at avoiding having to talk about religious shit he's untouchable. He's in many ways Crawl without the ego.
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No crawl with a belief that he is only a little smarter then normal, not in a whole different league
 
Durin said:
No crawl with a belief that he is only a little smarter then normal, not in a whole different league
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"I am only a standard deviation, at most two above the average in terms of intelligence. It can be expected that anyone should be within that range, as shown by the Ancient's most holy understanding on the subject of Statistics. My only advantage is sheer amounts of experience, which can be matched in time."

Casually improves Shipyard production by 20%.

(Above Average compared to the Mechanicus or maybe even only Archmagos I guess. The closest he has for comparison is the Biologis who is working on incredibly complicated Psychic Genetics.)
 
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Shard said:
"I am only a standard deviation, at most two above the average in terms of intelligence. It can be expected that anyone should be within that range, as shown by the Ancient's most holy understanding on the subject of Statistics. My only advantage is sheer amounts of experience, which can be matched in time."

Casually improves Shipyard production by 20%.

(Above Average compared to the Mechanicus or maybe even only Archmagos I guess. The closest he has for comparison is the Biologis who is working on incredibly complicated Psychic Genetics.)
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To be honest even compared to arch,Argos he is more then just above average
 
Durin said:
To be honest even compared to arch,Argos he is more then just above average
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He is comparing to a hypothetical Archmagos Vinceo with his amount of experience on Avernus in a highly prestigious research position (~150 extra years) which might be around +12L. Note that he considers the Biologis disadvantaged in comparative circumstance as their most promising avenues of research are also the most dangerous, in addition to lesser resources being invested proportionately. While Tranth can select novel targets like Black Ships, Vinceo is retricted to randomly guessing which Avernite species will yield new datums! His efforts could be wasted with no effective gain in experience.
 
In terms of base Learning, Tranth has as much as Syr and Isaac with 17. Also, funnily enough, Lin's base Learning was only as high as Mittens' at 9. Tamia has a god damn ridiculous base Learning of 29.
 
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Having a personal Truth Aura localized around your own arguments is a massive advantage though. If you tried to advance new scientific theories that are biased you are going to run into problems.
 
@Durin
A fluff question or it may be an option for "Knowing Avernus": Are the observed weather patterns normal (based on the same physics as most planets. Important to note here is that today here we can not calculate how the weather will be and instead aproximate it on observed weather) or influenced by probaly psykic phenomene of the wildlife?
 
Durin said:
Influence by something
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is it totally influenced/controlled or is it a occasional thing?

(tells us if the PM is actively controlling the weather as a whole or if animals are just simply doing things occasionally.......the first possablity however does have the possablity that if the animals are doing big enough things often enough it will look the same.
 
From the discord
Andres said:
12. Would Scott consent to selling the broken STC constructor to Callamus for a Paragon of Industry?
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Durin said:
12. he would, if they have one
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Even if they don't have a paragon of industry, I think buying a Paragon of some description with the STC constructor is something we should do. There are three reasons why I think we should do it.

1. It gets us a new paragon for basically nothing. The STC constructor is of no more value to us; we've gotten all the tech we can get out of it and it's not doing anything but being the target of pilgrimage. A new technological paragon, on the other hand, would be hugely beneficial for us. Not only materially, but politically, as it introduces a massively holy person to the Trust (high Learning=high holiness in Cult Mechanicus) who would be in favour of progressive policies.
2. The broken STC constructor might actually benefit Callamus. The Forge-Empire of Callamus is massive, covering eighty sectors as of 236.M46. Politics, prestige, pilgrimage, soft power, etc. actually matters in a polity of that size. Getting the closest thing to the Mechanicus' holy grail would be a notable boon to Callamus, as it would give them a good deal more political capital and influence over its many subordinate forge worlds. It should make up for the loss of a paragon at least somewhat, possibly even entirely if they're willing to make the trade.
3. It draws attention away from us. If Callamus ends up with the broken STC constructor, people's assumptions are going to be that the massive technological uplift came from them finding it in some obscure planet somewhere with their Explorator fleets. Abaddon and co will be even less willing to believe that the tech came from some random no-name planet in the least relevant segmentum in the galaxy.
 
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