"Around" in space is a very relative thing.
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The Long Night Part One: Embers in the Dusk: A Planetary Governor Quest (43k) Complete Sequel Up
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"10 years to take out the Ork realm" was an estimate before we blew up a fifth of the Hive Fleet and stopped it from expanding, and you forgot that there are also worlds between Ironbusta domain and Amir-ka, that Hive fleet would've spent five years eating before our actions. It's going to take longer.
Tgank. I will change it in my prefab.
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- To the left. No, not there, the other left.
High damage is also a very important factor, both to make sure when we do hit them they feel it and to power through their regeneration, as well as making sure they can't just disengage and heal.
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Actually, could you point me to where you get Pen of Volkite weaponry? I don't see it in the military stats spreadsheet.
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It is part of the lore. Volkite weapons are the same pen as the bolters that replaced them. They are just harder to create because they require certain technology and materials.
Lore says a lot of things, I'd much prefer word of Durin or hard numbers from some sheet.
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Then go look for it. Durin already said they were the same pen. There was no reason to change it after all.
I did, all I found was Durin saying that their Pen is "average" back in January. That's why I asked Andres, because maybe he has solid answers. It's more for interest, because trying to figure out effectiveness of starship-scale weaponry against starship-scale armour from infantry weapons sounds like an exercise in futility.
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in the cannon make, the navel scale volokte was made to counter nids, and was devastatingly effective. so it will probly be effective against nids.
I remember Durin saying to not take information from even canon omakes as gospel truth, especially as the omake was mainly about polity and not their weaponry, but yes, perhaps it is. Though I am not sure if it was ever actually used against the Leviathan, our Hive Fleet is low-armour.
Shard
One and Many
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- Malaysia
That might have been true for the Oldnids.
These are the Newnids.
I have to ask, how has our transformation into a hive world affected the environment of Avernus? Most hive worlds don't really have an ecosystem by this point.
Not at all we have had no noticeable effect on the environment.
It didn't, since we're a very small hiveworld, on the account of the whole deathworld thing.
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It hasn't because we are not a hive world. The hives are at the moons where most of the population is at.
Doomed Wombat
Let's go Darling!
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- Dancing on wires!
And we were loaded down with every pollution reduction STC the Imperium had even before we got our STCs, since it would have been stupid to kill what made Avernus notable.
So even if we had all pops on Avernus we probably wouldn't do much to the biosphere aside from more room being hives and the hive eco system forming faster.
Basically, it's a formula to ensure that Security Council pays upkeep for those forces we send to them, but never pays us more than 100% of our Helguards upkeep, thus we always pay for Helguard we keep in our own military forces. It's worth it if you are worried that Security Council pays us too much and want to take care of that permanently, and not just lower the amount payed for some time like Mikaelsson's proposal. However, at high numbers it becomes very unprofitable to keep sending more soldiers, so Security Council might be worried about that.
I mean, we have hives on Avernus, thus it's a bit of a hive world, no?
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No Hive worlds are just that worlds covered in Hives. Not they have hive because a lot of worlds in the Imperium have hives on planets. A hive world is the equivalent of a Ecumenopolis.
I can but will it help?
My formula always pays back all upkeep that belongs to the tithed troops.
In the second step it pays back a fraction of the not tithed troops upkeep based upon the comparsion between tithed to all troops. That means that at 50% tithe the math goes (50%/150%=33%) of the not tithed troops upkeep gets rebated.
At 250% tithe the math is (250%/350%=~70%)
At 900% tithe the math resolve to (900%/1000%=90%)
So my proposal never rebates over 100%.
What is the difference between yours and the current rebate?
We get payed less right now, less than even Mikaelsson's proposal, I believe, and Security Council never pays us the upkeep of untithed Helguard in the future.
I am pretty sure that only a small minority of Hive Worlds are true Ecumenopoleis. Most of the Hive Worlds still have a lot of empty unsettled territory between hives, even if it's usually polluted as hell. Midgard certainly did when we fought on it in the beginning of the quest. Our world just happens to have unpolluted but still ultra-deadly environment, not some dust plains.