The Long Night Part One: Embers in the Dusk: A Planetary Governor Quest (43k) Complete Sequel Up

Investigate the Sea?

  • Yes

    Votes: 593 80.4%
  • No

    Votes: 145 19.6%

  • Total voters
    738
@Shard, do you think you could squeeze in asking Lamia to make contact with the Avernite peoples for us? It's important to get it done this turn, since we might be doing Primordial Sea next turn. Maybe delay one of the current Personal Attentions by a year?
I don't think delaying our PAs are advisable at all. We really need those stuff done.
 
Ashes of Pride: The Continuing Saga of the Empire of Ashes Neg
@Durin
Another Empire of Ashes quest omake. Because I was sitting here, thinking to myself "you know what I wanna do right now? Formatting. A lot of formatting."
I'd appreciate any bonuses being at least partially directed at Lin and/or the eventual Isha rescue attempt.


Ashes of Pride: The Continuing Saga of the Empire of Ashes Negaverse Quest
Nalrey said:
Man, talk about it never rains but it pours. The Destroyer's active, Abaddon just finished dealing with his set of Orks and is probably going to be looking for trouble soon, Vect made his little bargain with Slannesh, a new large Waaagh is reaching the final stages of formation, AND the Nid splinter fleets are starting to arrive, fresh and swole after a thousand years of fighting the Necrons. Then we've got the Necrons reaching the point where they'll be able to start deploying the bulk of their military power in-galaxy (which could be good due to them loosely batting for Team Sanity, but the whole cold war thing we've got with them kinda strains) and the Dragon due to break out of the Eye of Terra soon. And this is without even touching the fact that we're still unaware of who the Deciever pasty/target is.

Seriously, this is some concentrated bullshit. I mean, it's not like everything's on the verge of falling apart, but it is still damn close. Abaddon needs to rebuild a bit, the Destroyer is contained for now, and the Waagh is pointed directly at Vect. I shudder to think of what we'd be stuck trying to do if these four threats weren't at least temporarily off of the table.

Pity this level of lowercase c chaos is confined mostly to the Materium. If all this shit was in the warp it would be the perfect time to rescue Isha, assuming we got everything in line on our own side.
Specfic_Protagonist said:
Speaking of the Isha rescue, do we know what's going on with the Trust? Our Diplomacy section mentioned we were limited on how many divinations we could request from them at our normal rate but didn't go into anything beyond that Ridcully was otherwise occupied.
Eugene said:
Speaking of the Isha rescue, do we know what's going on with the Trust? Our Diplomacy section mentioned we were limited on how many divinations we could request from them at our normal rate but didn't go into anything beyond that Ridcully was otherwise occupied.
Good question. I've also got some other things about the Trust I'm curious about. Let's ask.
@laughing one
1)What is Ridcully working on/doing that is keeping him from doing more divinations for us?
2)If we increased the payments for the divinations, would we be able to get him to do more?
3)Are there any immediate strategic threats to the Trust right now that we know about?
4)What's their situation with their Saint? I assume he's still alive, but how long do we have to resuce Isha if we want to get that honorbound favor from them for curing his aging issue?
5) How close are they to finishing up the Black Ship project that we plan to distribute and have they done anything else worthy of dissemination?
laughing one said:
Good question. I've also got some other things about the Trust I'm curious about. Let's ask.
@laughing one
1)What is Ridcully working on/doing that is keeping him from doing more divinations for us?
2)If we increased the payments for the divinations, would we be able to get him to do more?
3)Are there any immediate strategic threats to the Trust right now that we know about?
4)What's their situation with their Saint? I assume he's still alive, but how long do we have to resuce Isha if we want to get that honorbound favor from them for curing his aging issue?
5) How close are they to finishing up the Black Ship project that we plan to distribute and have they done anything else worthy of dissemination?
1) He's been doing some research on the fundamental Laws of the Warp and is focusing a number of his divinations on local issues.
2) The trade terms aren't really hammered out in specific resource numbers. You would need to take a trade option to revisit it, but based on your impression they're already devoting about as many of his divinations to you as they feel they can spare—favors from you are worth a massive amount to them, and they're well aware that giving you as many as they can is a significant boon to the galaxy.
3) Right now that they are aware of and were willing to inform you about? A T3 Waagh is in the process of coming together in their neighborhood that they aren't close to but could be an issue. A Splinter Fleet is headed their way in a few decades. They're starting to see infiltration attempts from distant powers. They worry that Tjapa is going to try to kill their Saint before he manages to die of old age.
4) Based on reports from your healers, he's in his last phase of life and has a chunk under half a century left. Given what you know of the Divine Powers of Isha she would be able to save him if you could get a direct representative of hers to him more or less any point before he finishes dying.
5) The Black Ship schematics should be ready for pickup next turn, although it's likely to take some time for the others to manufacture them effectively due to their dependence on elements of their psychic tradition. Saint Lin has recently finished a comprehensive work on identifying Chaos that they would like spread to the others that should be of great use in preventing infiltration and recognizing non-obvious Chaos influenced groups.
young_Esther said:
Based on reports from your healers, he's in his last phase of life and has a chunk under half a century left. Given what you know of the Divine Powers of Isha she would be able to save him if you could get a direct representative of hers to him more or less any point before he finishes dying.
Well that sucks. Fifty years is looking more than a bit optimistic for how soon we could free Isha, especially with how much is going on right now. Hope he doesn't decide to do some sort of going out in a blaze of glory thing…

At least the Chaos identification thing means that the Mon-Keigh are going to be less susceptible to that vector of attack. If only Chaos wasn't in a position right now to be able to rely on brute force so often…
Eternal Wallaby said:
Going out in a blaze of glory is very much a tradition for every heroic sapient in 40k. The only difference a few thousand years has made is that a much larger fraction of the general population is actually heroic.
Nalrey said:
Going out in a blaze of glory is very much a tradition for every heroic sapient in 40k. The only difference a few thousand years has made is that a much larger fraction of the general population is actually heroic.
True, and incredibly sad given just how many fewer sapients there are and how much larger a fraction is puppy-kicking evil.

That said, I'm not sure what sort of options he actually has for going out in a blaze of glory. The lack of the right sort of enemy to die heroically defying might foil that sort of plan…

Also, is anyone else worried about just how many issues they've got coming up? I know that a single splinter fleet and a T3 Waagh are pretty low-tier issues for us, but they're super tiny. Are they going to be able to handle them? I know we're overstretched, but we might want to see about sending a few of our dudes to help out. Could even free up some of their divination actions for us, which is frankly worth more than our warhost actions tend to be…
Fragment said:
Also, is anyone else worried about just how many issues they've got coming up? I know that a single splinter fleet and a T3 Waagh are pretty low-tier issues for us, but they're super tiny. Are they going to be able to handle them? I know we're overstretched, but we might want to see about sending a few of our dudes to help out. Could even free up some of their divination actions for us, which is frankly worth more than our warhost actions tend to be…
Can't they just use some of the favors they've been getting to call us in if they're in significant danger? I mean, we'd still need to commit the forces but it seems like they think they've got it handled.
laughing one said:
On sending forces to help them, they have not ruled out asking for aid (and would definitely do so should they feel that their polity is at risk of collapse) but would rather not for a number of reasons.

In their mind, the single greatest danger to their existence is a power like Abaddon discovering their existence and significance. The actions they take are carefully considered to minimize the odds of that occurring and reduce the perceived benefit from destroying them. Holding onto the obvious favors from you has two major effects: by reducing the amount of military intervention in the area by you, it reduces the odds that a power like Abaddon decides to look into why a galactic power like the Aeldari cares about this region at all and it gives them a get out of jail free card for a potential attack from a foe of that nature.
Nalrey said:
So, based on laughing one's statement, it sounds like we really shouldn't be sending reinforcements/help without asking, even for free.

Man, the whole 'high-handed Eldar' issue we've been running into constantly in quest is so pervasive…
selbst011 said:
We should get the Isha mission done in the next few decades. Based on the latest Whispers in the Warp Nurgle's guard is down and the turmoil in the galaxy should provide ample cover before we start stirring things up. Sure, it's risky, but playing it safe is just dying a slow death in the galaxy right now. Success on Isha would be an immediate game-changer, allowing us to actually take a place as a dominant military power in the galaxy rather than forcing us to rely almost exclusively on being near impossible to hit at home and excellent at turning one foe against another.

It also opens up the option of a far stronger coalition with the Mon-Keigh by healing their Saint (a man even their Primarchs respect) and saving him from certain death. While Mon-Keigh are likely to remain quite limited in strategic mobility in the near term, their long term importance cannot be overstated. Unlike us and the Krok, their psychic, physical, and technological growth has not hit the same point of diminishing returns, and a strong and fair alliance with the remaining survivors means that when the Emperor returns he will likely be strongly aligned with our own pantheon, giving us a massive and much needed boost to our power in the Warp. This only works, though, if we can rescue Isha soon enough to heal him.

@laughing one
  1. You said we had less than fifty years until their Saint dies naturally from his condition. Do we think he is going to do anything that is likely to shorten that?
  2. Would healing their Saint improve our reputation with the other Mon-Keigh polities in the tech trade as well?
  3. Would it improve our standing with the Emperor when he returns?
  4. Do Ynnead and Cegorach believe that they are close to prepared for the rescue mission?
Calmunequipped said:
Didn't the Whispers in the Warp just say that the extra defense and preparation in response to our scouting mission have decayed to their normal level? That seems well short of his guard being down.
Nalrey said:
What Calmunequipped said. I can imagine that Vect's deal with Slannesh, and Slannesh subsequently being catapulted into what is basically the number two slot for the Chaos gods might have reduced Nurgle's ability to focus on his defenses a bit, but that doesn't seem like enough to say his guard is down.

I mean, my impression was that between the immediate threat to Vect in the form of the Waaagh and its perennial conflict with Khorne who is currently number one in power, Slannesh should have relatively little attention to spare on facing Nurgle. And while I mentioned earlier that there is a whole mass of turmoil in the rest of the galaxy, which will have impacts on the Warp, it isn't specifically Warp-centered turmoil.

I'm not saying it's a bad time to act based on the external situation, I'm just not saying it's a particularly good time either. And that's just the external situation. We don't need the stars to align and have literally every factor tilted strongly our way, but I feel like our own preparations aren't to the point we want them to be given how many potentially beneficial irons we have in the fire and it would take a heck of a level of external circumstances to warrant pulling the trigger this early.
laughing one said:
@laughing one
  1. You said we had less than fifty years until their Saint dies naturally from his condition. Do we think he is going to do anything that is likely to shorten that?
  2. Would healing their Saint improve our reputation with the other Mon-Keigh polities in the tech trade as well?
  3. Would it improve our standing with the Emperor when he returns?
  4. Do Ynnead and Cegorach believe that they are close to prepared for the rescue mission?
1)He's planning on doing some moderately risky research, and potentially more risky stuff towards the end, but he has not shared any plans to go out in a blaze of glory.
2)It would, but the degree would depend on the polity and what if anything you asked for in return. To preempt the follow up question, large gain with Quartus, massive gain with Secondus, minor to moderate gain with Callamus.
3)Unknown, but it certainly won't hurt.
4)They could act soon, but are not at the point where they feel as prepared as they could possibly be.
archfiend said:
He's planning on doing some moderately risky research, and potentially more risky stuff towards the end, but he has not shared any plans to go out in a blaze of glory.
What the heck could he be researching that is that personally dangerous? I remember in the debate about giving the Trust some of our Black Library information on Nurgle that the question of corruption came up and you answered that with his traits it would be literally impossible for him to become corrupted from his studies on the nature of the Chaos gods.
laughing one said:
He's hoping to discover the nature of the Primordial Sea, a layer of reality that empowers and twists Chaos.
Nalrey said:
He's hoping to discover the nature of the Primordial Sea, a layer of reality that empowers and twists Chaos.
@laughing one
What do we know about this? I look through the Warp informational page and the Chaos informational page and I saw it mentioned as Chaos having ties to it, but nothing more. Is this an area where we already know the answers?
laughing one said:
@laughing one
What do we know about this? I look through the Warp informational page and the Chaos informational page and I saw it mentioned as Chaos having ties to it, but nothing more. Is this an area where we already know the answers?
You have a few bits and pieces of knowledge related to it, but most of it equates to 'do not poke', 'banned by intergalactic arms treaty', 'the Gods forbid you to mess with what you cannot understand', and the even more concerning 'the pre-Fall Aeldari considered it too dangerous to mess around with'.
archfiend said:
You have a few bits and pieces of knowledge related to it, but most of it equates to 'do not poke', 'banned by intergalactic arms treaty', 'the Gods forbid you to mess with what you cannot understand', and the even more concerning 'the pre-Fall Aeldari considered it too dangerous to mess around with'.
Guys, this seems bad and super-ominous. Should we suggest to them that they leave this subject well alone? I know we want to avoid trying to tell them what to do, but this seems like the sort of thing that's likely to result in tears all around and another galaxy-ending threat.

Besides, what are the odds they get anything worthwhile out of it? We're the premier group in the galaxy when it comes to knowing and combating the corruptive influences of Chaos and we haven't needed to bother with looking into these sorts of things. We should just drop them some of our knowledge as needed and head off a threat to everyone.
Specific_Protagonist said:
That does seem worrisome, but laughing one said 'moderately risky' research, not 'potentially galaxy-ending research'. I'm guessing that he has some unique skills that keep this from being a horrible idea? Like, it could be that the reason it was banned was because it could do some memetic corruption on steroids sort of thing and that the worst-case scenario for that meeting someone who can flat no-sell corruption is the power behind it kills him directly.
Dald said:
They do live on the Crucible. If it isn't capable of spotting and shutting down hard any potential galaxy-ending research I don't know what is…
laughing one said:
Unless rolls are horribly, horribly bad the Saint is only risking himself in the research.

Also, I feel like you guys are underestimating just how much knowledge of Gods and Chaos their Saint has. The Emperor was not trying to create a warrior when he was made, he was trying to create someone who could chart the perilous waters of faith, the Warp, and religion that had screwed over humanity so many times in their history. Every bit of empowerment and supernatural skill and insight that was normally used to turn a normal man into an untouchable killing machine that could stand on par with some of the most dangerous threats in the galaxy was instead turned towards this, and it was starting with an individual whose faith and inherent capability to comprehend such mysteries was already top tier.

He then spent centuries refining and expanding his understanding, seeing the true face of elements of Chaos and the Divine new and old with the help of a man who was in the process of becoming one of the greatest Seers in the galaxy.

Throughout all this time the power, knowledge and insight left to him continued to unfurl, fueled through the consumption of his very soul. Unlike the other Saints of the past, though, this one had access to medical and psychic assistance like none other, allowing him to reach an age that no Saint with the soul-burning style of empowerment—the only one that continuously grows stronger as time passes—has ever achieved.

There may be those that know more about Chaos, Gods, and the like than him, but it is extremely doubtful that any are alive that can learn as much, as quickly, or as safely as he can. His recent work on spotting Chaos corruption? It's not superior to your own psychic abilities, but you would have a very, very hard time even matching its performance in identifying those tainted without it.
Nalrey said:
Welp, I'm embarrassed. Was going to chime in more or less in agreement on the 'better safe than sorry side' only to see this.

Aeldari Arrogance strikes again. Seriously, we need to stop underestimating anyone and everyone that might help us and play all-knowing superior beings, cause this shit keeps happening again and again.

You'd think the Fall would have taught us…

Anyway, do you think it would make sense to offer them what information we do have on the Primordial Sea? It might reduce the chance of things going wrong, increase the odds of useful discoveries (that would even be useful to us), and generally make them like us more.

Or we could just place our foot solidly in our mouth. Again. Seriously, we should be asking laughing one about if our actions would come off as condescending for every one of our non-violent interactions with other groups, as it seems like we've either come off or almost come off as condescending a good 80% of the time.

We probably also come off as condescending in most of our violent interactions with other groups too, but I care far less about what they think of us.
 
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A Path Obscured
A Path Obscured​

A mighty fortress stood amidst utter desolation, warriors crowding its battlements. A warlord donned his armor and rested his hands upon his draconic steed, his form taut with dread. An abomination of hunger and shadow reached out to its oldest companion for comfort, devouring its fear and polishing its words. A gunsmith, brash and defiant, calmly assembled her greatest and most terrible work yet. A living fortress poured its might into the walls, newfound power straining, even as his oldest comrade gave deeply of his own might. A desolate warrior, a single charge away, looked up from a lonely campfire and felt doom call to him. Qaramar, fifth among the rotting host, fifth-most favored son of Nurgle had come. He of the lost second and last watcher of the last moment, strode towards the final fortress of the vermin gods. He came alone, clad in might and contempt. Before him, the gods took up arms in defiance.

The pact was old, the pact was new, the pact was false, the pact was true. Round and round and round again, the Changer twisted and schemed and reached. Before it the Dark Prince smiled and seduced and whispered and tittered. A bargain between minds, an interaction between clashing powers, an alignment of fates, a secrete beyond mortal ken. When next the Dark Prince struck at stagnation, ambition would see rage distracted allowing excess to strike deep. Sworn with a whisper beneath hearing, at a volume to shatter mountains in a place where none could see. Yet, beneath the whirling gods, a single figure slipped away, its mind burning and shattered, its flesh soiled and twisting. Yet it carried away unseen a secret to make puppets of the gods themselves, however briefly.

The greatest flaws of the heretics in war was initiative. The foolish belief that a man on the ground could possibly know better than his superior. The warden of stagnation was not nearly so foolish. It possessed no will, no thought, only infinite obedience and an endless list of perfect plans, crafted by the hand of its god. The strange figure behind it was not in any of the plans, therefore it should be ignored. For to do otherwise was to suggest that he, a lowly marshal, knew better than his god. If he was supposed to act when it read his plan book, he would have been instructed to do so. He stood vigilant at the border, ever vigilant to attack or defend as the plans demanded. The shreds of torn paper at the figure's feet were of no consequence, for no plan before him mentioned them.

A vast empire of rot, a hundred hundred worlds, the putrid jewel in a foul collection, writhed in bloody battle. A sea of vital living chitin warred with a sea of twisted and putrid flesh. Pitted and corrupted vessels picked clean of corrupt gristle, vast behemoths of meat and bone writhed and rotted under unclean guns. The Great Devourer had come to the domain of Nurgle. The exalted Meslaria, the king beneath the manor, forsook the vile comfort his lord's hearth. Entire worlds offered up their putrid flesh and souls so their lord may once more sally forth in this time of greatest need.

It was to be the party of the millennium, the grand unveiling of Slaanesh's new exalted champion, the grand parade of Vect's ascension. A grandiose march across six hundred and sixty six sectors, a people truly unchained and blessed taking the galaxy for all it was worth for the first time. RUINED! WRECKED! WASTED! Brutish, boorish beasts! Slaanesh raged as its grand crusade was frantically wheeled around to deal with mere orks! Its attendees fled and hid, the newest among them whispering that they had seen the height of their prince's fury. When the well hidden stench of rot was found wafting from the strands of fate that had brought forth the Waaaagh, they learned the depth of their naivety.

The visions ceased, and Eldrad collapsed shaking to the floor. There was a path. It was slim and treacherous and full of risk, but it was there. A way to set the 5 to warring, to see Nurgle pressed and distracted. The window was short, there was much to do and little time to do it, but he would see Isha free, no matter the cost.

Far beyond the games of the gods, and the scheming of desperate mortals, The Warp was broken. It had been shaped into a mountain range as hard as diamonds, and as vast as stars. It stood a shattered remnant broken by the passage of vast blows and melted by poorly aimed shots. Amidst the scene of utter devastation, two vast green giants sat battered bruised and bleeding as they laughed uproariously at the burning galaxy before them. One whose eyes shone with cunning brutality, and one who smiled with brutal cunning. As their wounds healed, the landscape reset itself, and the rare pause began to come to an end, one looked into the distance and spoke.

"Oy, dem spiky gits seem to be havin a rite proppa fight."

His twin reared back in afront. "An dey didn't invite us? Dats downright offensive dat is."

The giants looked at each other, then at the spinning chaos and ephemeral plots and plans of the desperate, and smiled.



@Durin a thing. I might try and do more about the bits.
 
The main reason I want Max to work on fixing the thunder warriors flaws is that I think that will help him advance. Because he will be working on a project that the Emperor never finished and we have meta knowledge that the thunder warriors can be fixed. I am hoping it pushes him into paragon when he finishes. Mostly because if he can fix the thunder warriors he can fix the Last Hunters and maybe one day work on Geneseed.

Looking at the Map More'lumix is the closest Bloodbusta realm. Which means the Tzeentch domain with a bunch of wizards will most likely be the target. Amirka is also a possibility but all that means is a large ork realm would destroy the chaos realm right before the Tryanids arrive. I thought Assour but it is farther away. Turoq old realm would not put up much of a fight and is farther away than the other realms.

As for warning chaos all the minor realms combine have 300,000 escorts , 10,000 capital ships and 20,000 chaos space marines. Which added to 2 of the other major chaos realms would be a powerful enough force to blunt the Tryanid fleet... hopefully I hat using that word.

Now the thing we have to worry about from the orks is that the longer a Waagh goes on it starts to call more orks. Which we do not since they have 250,000 roks, 500,000 escorts, 100-200 hulks and 5,000 capital ships. Which is enough to burn the whole region to the ground when combined with Bloodbusta realm.

@Durin if we use the honorbound favor to burn kill everything in a thousand lightyears would that slow down the hive fleet or cause it to go somewhere else?
it would cause it to go somewhere else with more biomass

You do not know that. You suspect that and as far as I know Durin has not said that.

@Durin would Maximal raise his learning stat faster doing the Thunder warrior research or studying wildlife?
on average equal
 
@Durin , prompted by @Reynal 's negaverse omake, I had a few questions:
  1. Do we know approximately when the Eldar are planning to rescue Isha?
  2. Is it the case that Isha would be able to heal to Lin if she was rescued?
  3. Would it be possible to place Lin in stasis to keep him alive until such time as he could be healed by Isha?
  4. Do the Eldar have any knowledge on the Primordial Sea they'd be able to offer us to make Lin's research easier/safer?
 
@Durin , prompted by @Reynal 's negaverse omake, I had a few questions:
  1. Do we know approximately when the Eldar are planning to rescue Isha?
  2. Is it the case that Isha would be able to heal to Lin if she was rescued?
  3. Would it be possible to place Lin in stasis to keep him alive until such time as he could be healed by Isha?
  4. Do the Eldar have any knowledge on the Primordial Sea they'd be able to offer us to make Lin's research easier/safer?
Pretty sure we already know the answers to all of these. In fact some are just in the FAQ.
 
@Durin , prompted by @Reynal 's negaverse omake, I had a few questions:
  1. Do we know approximately when the Eldar are planning to rescue Isha?
  2. Is it the case that Isha would be able to heal to Lin if she was rescued?
  3. Would it be possible to place Lin in stasis to keep him alive until such time as he could be healed by Isha?
  4. Do the Eldar have any knowledge on the Primordial Sea they'd be able to offer us to make Lin's research easier/safer?
I don't have citations, but I'm fairly certain the answers are as follows based on statements by Durin.
1) Between a bit short of the end of Lin's projected maximum lifespan and a hundred or two years after that. Given that it is an extremely high-risk endeavor they are going to be timing it to stack as many bonuses to their success chance as possible rather than based on external factors unrelated to its success chance.
2) Yes, but it wasn't specified if said healing would be effectively 'perfect' (leaving him with a normal or even extended human lifespan with all of his current powers) or if it might not be quite up to the ability to turn back the clock on the damage he's sustained.
3) No.
4) We could use a minor favor to ask for information relevant to the research from them. As things stand, we might do so but we might end up needing that favor for dealing with the Nids or the Orks. As we aren't doing the action immediately we haven't needed to prioritize between that.
 
this is actually getting close to competing with the waifu-warz

--edit--....or at least, its possably the closest normal-vote to said waifu-wars
 
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Like the gravity array, and I think we should ask calamus if they're working on the thunder warriors before we do it. They can probably do a better job.

Also, @Durin and thread, do you guys think the eldar might be interested in buying psychic materials from Averneus? Might be really valuable for a faction so heavily based on psytech and it gives us something other than troops and divinations we can sell to them.

Also, they could reasonably want to buy live wildlife too. Phase tigers are useful military assets after all.
 
@Shard - A major reason I have Special Issue Impalers is to have Double Downs where they need to be. The Gravitic Array Programming has only a 14% chance of success, so it really needs to be somewhere there's a Double Down, otherwise failure is rather likely.
 
@Shard - A major reason I have Special Issue Impalers is to have Double Downs where they need to be. The Gravitic Array Programming has only a 14% chance of success, so it really needs to be somewhere there's a Double Down, otherwise failure is rather likely.
so a 34% after the +20 from double down? and then rid gives a reroll with a +15, so....

1-(1-0.34)*(1-0.49)=0.6634%?

its been a while since I took stats, maybe somebody can check my math there.
 
@Shard - A major reason I have Special Issue Impalers is to have Double Downs where they need to be. The Gravitic Array Programming has only a 14% chance of success, so it really needs to be somewhere there's a Double Down, otherwise failure is rather likely.
I have shifted the years around to allow a DD on both the Vault and the Gravitic Array.

Unfortunately this means the Shrine Fairies aren't to be investigated this turn.
 
If you're doing gravitic array thing, do Fundamentals: Gravitics first, it'll increase the odds and take only 3 years.
 
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@Shard, do you think you could swap out Aria's Y5 action for the shrine fairies? Ridcully's Y3 action is tutoring the Alpha, so even without Aria they should have a decent chance of passing the trials. Rituals a turn early could make a difference.

If you're doing gravitic array thing, do Fundamental: Gravitic first, it'll increase the odds and take only 3 years.
@Shard @Enjou this is a good point. We do have those Dark Age theorems. It'd be a good time to put them to work.
 
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Also, @Durin and thread, do you guys think the eldar might be interested in buying psychic materials from Averneus? Might be really valuable for a faction so heavily based on psytech and it gives us something other than troops and divinations we can sell to them.
On the one hand it cannot hurt to ask. On the other I doubt they would go for it. The local Web Way is horribly damaged making bulk shipments dangerous.

I am really not sure that the PM would be alright with us exporting its self replicating psybioweapon experiments into the galaxy...
It hasn't raised any objection to us spreading its experiments across the galaxy so far. Pretty sure the Nog was part of the grand tech exchange. Plus, Avernite humans are now classified as 'one of Avernus's self replicating psybioweapon experiments' and we haven't gotten any backlash from sending troops on the eldar galactic tour.
 
It hasn't raised any objection to us spreading its experiments across the galaxy so far. Pretty sure the Nog was part of the grand tech exchange. Plus, Avernite humans are now classified as 'one of Avernus's self replicating psybioweapon experiments' and we haven't gotten any backlash from sending troops on the eldar galactic tour.
Thing is Nogs and Beer grass are not exactly the most dangerous things in the galaxy.

And while we are people, I'd hardily call us self replicating psycic bioweapons yet.

Give it some time or when we figure out what's happening to our psyker numbers.
 
When the High Council comes up I think we should lobby for evacuating the surrounding human polities. It will be difficult and won't be strategically optimal, but really I just want to do something properly heroic. The last and perhaps only time we've gone out and acted in someone else's favour out of altruism was during the Grand Conclave. 355 years and only once have we done a great charitable thing. I want to do more. We should do more.
 
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