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The Long Night Part One: Embers in the Dusk: A Planetary Governor Quest (43k) Complete Sequel Up
- Thread starter Durin
- Start date
- Location
- Back in Cali
Except all but the very last two in each way give us the ablity to deal with both kinds very well. The 3/4 and half allow us to deal massive amounts of damage to horde units and do not lower our skill. Both the PDF which is our main fighting forces and the Helguard have weapons and gear that makes them more than enough to deal with heavier units. With the 3/4 or 1/2 the Helltroopers fill the hole in our order of battle and still have the equipment to deal with heavier units if they come across them. We don't want to lower our skills we want them as high as possible and every bit of points and skill upgrades count.
- Location
- United States of America, Michigan
Let's not do Cleansing worlds with Lin since those can be finished with time and Line is nearing the end of his life. Maybe the nature of Manhlatha or whatever the eldar god that went chaos's name is
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- Back in Cali
Time that equals to centuries for light and more for moderate. There is also very little left for him to study so purging over a dozen worlds of taint is a good use of his time.
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- United States of America, Michigan
Both ships have different uses so one doesn't completely cover for the other. Like the battleship option would be good for getting bulk groups of psykers from single locations from long distances while the Grand cruisers would be good for quickly going to several worlds. I imagine once we build enough black ships we'll have a few grand cruiser BSs picking up the psykers of a subsector and then bringing them to a central location where one battleship BS takes all the psykers to one of our schools.
I just value getting a few no-name worlds faster as nowhere as valuable as the study actions only Lin can do.
- Location
- Someplace USA
Honestly black ships seem like something the high council needs to talk about since their going to be a Trust wide thing. For now we should probably stick with a grandcruiser for the inner worlds and see about making battleships for the colony sub-sectors.
Also we might want to pass this on to the Dragons nest sooner rather than latter as it will be an institutional boost they need and will help us down the line.
Also we might want to pass this on to the Dragons nest sooner rather than latter as it will be an institutional boost they need and will help us down the line.
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- madison
- Location
- Back in Cali
Again there is no research left for him to do he is doing the last major one right now the created gods. The Sea one is so dangerous I am voting against it no matter what unless Lin becomes Transcendent and even then unless the trait is tailored to protecting him from the Sea it is a major risk. This is the place that drove the chaos gods into becoming what they are now.
Shard
One and Many
- Location
- Malaysia
Ehh, I think if we build central locations we're fairly likely to build Telepathica Branches in those worlds. Plus those Central Locations are very likely also the Subsector Capital and also a major node for Neo-Astropaths, meaning overall building a branch there isn't actually too bad an idea.
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- Someplace USA
We're probably going to want to design both types of blackships since each serve a useful purpose.
Mostly Pulse
Pulse Rifles: Helltrooper
The Helltroopers of Avernus do not fight in isolation. They are always backed either by our PDF and militia or by the massed armies of the Trust. This being the case our elite Helltroopers will usually be tasked with killing enemy elites, not slaughtering chaff.
Black Ship Design: Grand Cruiser
This is a transport ship, not a combat ship. It should never be un-escorted and it should never be in a battle it can avoid or escape from.
The Nature of (The Emperor)
Still think we should do this.
Pulse Rifles: Helltrooper
The Helltroopers of Avernus do not fight in isolation. They are always backed either by our PDF and militia or by the massed armies of the Trust. This being the case our elite Helltroopers will usually be tasked with killing enemy elites, not slaughtering chaff.
Black Ship Design: Grand Cruiser
This is a transport ship, not a combat ship. It should never be un-escorted and it should never be in a battle it can avoid or escape from.
The Nature of (The Emperor)
Still think we should do this.
- Location
- Back in Cali
That us the Helguard that deals with elites. The Helltroopers are the main fight force along with the PDF who is getting all pulse rifles already. We need a force that can destrory a large amount of enemy forces quickly and that job is perfect for the Helltroopers.
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- United states
They don't cover for each other, they are literally just meant to transport psykers. The only difference is between what's cheaper and more personally defendable. Though as pointed out a grand cruiser is pretty powerful on it's own and anything that could attack it would be a threat to a battleship as well. As has also been pointed out we can also just increase ships escorting the Blackships since it seems unlikely that they'd be traveling alone anyway.
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- Back in Cali
Yes they do. It was one of the upgrades we did awhile ago. It isn't they stronger versions that the Helguard have but it is still a better version than the regular trooper version I think? Might be wrong and it is the regular trooper level ones.
notanautomaton
I've got 99 quests, I've finished one
No, it's the same versions the Helguard have.
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- Australia
@Durin, apparently the difference between the Volkite Charger and Volkite Caliver is pretty much the same as the difference between an Impaler Carbine and an Impaler Rifle, or a Boltgun and a Bolt Rifle. Because of that, I think that the Helltroopers should use Volkite Calivers instead of Volkite Chargers because they have power armour. (As an aside, the Heavy Bolter/Impaler equivalent is the Volkite Culverin.)
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Yeah, and it's also prohibited by AdMech.
@Durin, does Navigators Support include equipping our Mass Conveyors/Merchantman with the tech?
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- United states
For diplomacy and a Ridcully action definitely think we should talk to the Dragons Nest about having Ridcully find spies in the Dragon's Nest since they are going to merge with the Trust and Ridcully is the best guy for the job and it would also help avoid a potential headache down the line.
Also as people said we should really have somene found an order of psyker knights. Thinking we do that on the 5th year since by then we would have more than likely already talked to Sigmund about it.
Also as people said we should really have somene found an order of psyker knights. Thinking we do that on the 5th year since by then we would have more than likely already talked to Sigmund about it.
- Location
- Back in Cali
Remember the broader the search parameters the less effective Ridcully action is and looking for spies is very broad action and we also have decades before we need to worry about it.
HanEmpire
Delicious
@Durin could we create an "Order of Biomagi" (name pending) that recruits biomancers to work with the Adeptus Mechanicus Biologis to combine the above action with the Mechanicus' "Complete Examination (Species)" action?
The action can be made more expensive & longer to compensate.
The idea is to consolidate the action slots needed to study Avernus' wildlife and cut down on the Telepathica action backlog. I noticed that players consider Biologis actions with a leisurely attitude because there's rarely another project that takes up Maximal's time, whereas the psykers always have more stuff to do. Many wildlife studies are also ignored right after they're done because they don't always give us tangible benefits.
Reallocating the material study workload from the Telepathica to the Mechanicus could streamline things a bit and make sure we utilize the wildlife more effectively.
Of course this means we'll get more "Implement (Wildlife) Material" actions to deal with, but at least those will get picked more often instead of just sitting there.
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- Leeds
We need more actions. Why don't we have enough actions?
Regarding the Black Ships, size is probably less of a problem for the other human factions that we're building this for, however I would hope that deep in their territory attacks ought to be much rarer than ours, which makes defense less of a concern anyway.
Regarding the Black Ships, size is probably less of a problem for the other human factions that we're building this for, however I would hope that deep in their territory attacks ought to be much rarer than ours, which makes defense less of a concern anyway.
@Durin you forgot to change the reqard around, all of our pulse/volkites say 3/4 volkite.
Shard
One and Many
- Location
- Malaysia
If we had enough actions to do all the actions, there would be no choice in turns.
- Location
- Leeds
But the backlog.....
- Location
- madison
But the backlog.....
is good for the quest.