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The Long Night Part One: Embers in the Dusk: A Planetary Governor Quest (43k) Complete Sequel Up

Investigate the Sea?

  • Yes

    Votes: 593 80.4%

  • No

    Votes: 145 19.6%
  • Total voters
    738
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Doomed Wombat said:
Ehhh they were meant to be costly for the level 22-25 civ and we're at 19.

Small over estimation of our capabilities me thinks?
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You mean like the two planets that are 22-25 in the trust?

@Durin
1 will the trust want to build a heaven fortress?
2 would having a aspace elevator being down the cost in years or resources?
3 while building one is too draw attention would it be small or significant on the galatic level?
 
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Nurgle said:
They are now viable because of the tech upgrade we got gave us a huge boost to industry and economic across the board. When we finish implementing all of it we will have such a boost that it is viable to build them.
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Well I suppose we will have to agree to disagree, nice talking to you and hope that one day I can go for the fortress without such reservations. Night.
Just realised the time (1 AM)
 
Andres110 said:
Heaven will never be a thing. If we build it, someone too powerful for us to beat will come at us to steal it. It would be a very bad idea to attract that kind of attention to build a fortress that will be stolen.
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heaven is harder to steal, its issue is its sheer price makes it overkill for almost all systems. To be honest the only place in the Trust that I can see getting one in the near to mid future is Vanaheim, and even then not this century and probably not the next
Enjou said:
With regards to building a better spy network, I believe that refers to our off planet spy networks, which are fairly basic. Our internal security apparatus is already top notch.
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it does
 
Nurgle said:
You mean like the two planets that are 22-25 in the trust?

@Durin
1 will the trust want to build a heaven fortress?
2 would having a aspace elevator being down the cost in years or resources?
3 while building one is too draw attention would it be small or significant on the galatic level?
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1. not right now
2. no
3. it would draw attention, not as mucha s a dues but some
 
[X] Prefetus Tertius Rosalinda Orlov- Prefetus Tertius Orlov is one of Edvin's proteges, a skilled architect and someone able to overseen Administratum projects if needed.
 
[x] Prefetus Tertius Rosalinda Orlov- Prefetus Tertius Orlov is one of Edvin's proteges, a skilled architect and someone able to overseen Administratum projects if needed.
 
[x] Prefetus Tertius Rosalinda Orlov- Prefetus Tertius Orlov is one of Edvin's proteges, a skilled architect and someone able to overseen Administratum projects if needed.
 
So, how come Callamus doesn't have Stellar Bellows? It's hilariously more efficient than asteroid mining for much the same manpower.
 
Durin's just put down some rather important facts and back story for Embers as well as the power of the Eldar Empire and their Gods.

1. You mentioned that the Eldar Gods are weaker compared to where they were in the Empire's heyday. How much weaker?


2. Has this affected Isha as well?

1. at their height Asuryn was able to decree that no gods would interfere with mortal matters and force the Gods of Chaos to follow his edict. by the time of the fall a single chaos god could eat him and his entire pantheon.



2. yes

he wasnt just referring to his pantheon. at their height the Eldar utterly dominated the galaxy to a level the Imperium could only dream of, this dominance reflected on the warp where they were further strengthened by the worship of a highly psychic, very populous race. There is a reason that it was only when the Eldar started drifting away from their gods and falling into hedonsm that they weakened enough to be threated by the gods of chaos, and even then the Eldar pantheon held back chaos for eons using stored power.

khaine could not kill krhone, due to how hard killing a god of that level is, but could match or even beat him in a fight

So yeah the reason chaos wasn't doing anything for so long was because the Eldar told em to not do anything.
 
Durin said:
heaven is harder to steal, its issue is its sheer price makes it overkill for almost all systems. To be honest the only place in the Trust that I can see getting one in the near to mid future is Vanaheim, and even then not this century and probably not the next
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As I thought. Makes sense that something that absurdly expensive even on a galactic scale would only be used for places actually worth the cost due to losing said places being too heavy a blow to consider like Vanaheim AKA the main shipyard of the Trust would be for us. Imagine that even the major polities would only be willing to have a very small handful with a polity like Callamus maybe having several for their most largest and productive Forgeworlds.

@Durin

1) How many Heaven Fortresses are the rest of the major human polities considering?
-1a) What kind of places would they used to defend?
2) Are there more instances of chaos polities working together thanks to the Orks awakening putting pressure on certain polities?
-2a) Are the rest of the human polities a lot more willing to work with the Eldar in the current age when it comes to preventing things like level 4 Waaaghs?

For 2a kind of hoping that after the tech trade that the other human polities aside from Quartus would be far more willing to work together with the Eldar when it comes to preventing real threats to everyone from becoming an issue. Am assuming that the rest of the human polities, aside from Quartusm are still heavily xenophobic making this more of an issue.
 
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HanEmpire said:
Bah. @Durin does Inquisitor Klovis-Ultan have any ideas on where Avernus' Internal Security can be improved?

[X] Prefetus Tertius Rosalinda Orlov- Prefetus Tertius Orlov is one of Edvin's proteges, a skilled architect and someone able to overseen Administratum projects if needed.
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not really, it is very, very good as is
Red Bovine said:
As I thought. Makes sense that something that absurdly expensive even on a galactic scale would only be used for places actually worth the cost due to losing said places being too heavy a blow to consider like Vanaheim AKA the main shipyard of the Trust would be for us. Imagine that even the major polities would only be willing to have a very small handful with a polity like Callamus maybe having several for their most largest and productive Forgeworlds.

@Durin

1) How many Heaven Fortresses are the rest of the major human polities considering?
-1a) What kind of places would they used to defend?
2) Are there more instances of chaos polities working together thanks to the Orks awakening putting pressure on certain polities?
-2a) Are the rest of the human polities a lot more willing to work with the Eldar in the current age when it comes to preventing things like level 4 Waaaghs?
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1. theya re not sure but a dozen or so
1a. a mix of key industrial worlds (callamus itself, major shipyards ect) and key statigic worlds that are liekly to come under heavy assault (border fortresses on major warp currents or chockpionts)
2. yes there are
2a. they are, desperation makes most allies more palitable
 
@Durin
1 has the conference change Mikaelson at all?
2 do we know what Surt thinks of the tech we got and the success of the meeting?
3 did the Admech get everything they hoped for?
4 will Rotbart get a trait for going to the conference?
 
[X] Prefetus Tertius Rosalinda Orlov- Prefetus Tertius Orlov is one of Edvin's proteges, a skilled architect and someone able to overseen Administratum projects if needed.

We have a huge amount of construction and general admin projects on the docket, and hopefully this option will help us grow our economy fast enough to at least keep up with spending...
 
HanEmpire said:
What are Stellar Bellows again?
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Basically, you treat the local sun like a sponge. Squeeze it around the middle and let juices spurt out the top and bottom, then filter those streams of plasma for the non-hydrogen atoms dissolved inside. Then you let the hydrogen fall back into the sun minus whatever you keep for fusion fuel. You can get around the sun being too hot to physically squish by arranging a bunch of stations in a ring around it and coupling them to the sun magnetically.
 
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Nurgle said:
@Durin
1 has the conference change Mikaelson at all?
2 do we know what Surt thinks of the tech we got and the success of the meeting?
3 did the Admech get everything they hoped for?
4 will Rotbart get a trait for going to the conference?
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1. yes but you will have to wait and see how much of it stickes
2. yoiu do not
3. yes, + a lot more
4. no
 
Most of the regular people have voted already but it looks like we will be getting the architect as Vizer, chancellor, Gran Mugwump, or whatever thier new title will be.
Adhoc vote count started by Nurgle on Jan 22, 2019 at 9:22 PM, finished with 117093 posts and 34 votes.
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@Durin

1. Has there been (if very rare) cases of Navigators producing gamma or beta or alpha etc-level navigators?
2. How prevalent are mutations among our house of Navigators (Norn)? Do they turn into grotesque monstrosities by that must be kept away from public view or are they a lot more stable?
3. In your verse how much more resistant are Navigators to Chaos as compared to normal people and psykers?
 
[X] Prefetus Tertius Rosalinda Orlov- Prefetus Tertius Orlov is one of Edvin's proteges, a skilled architect and someone able to overseen Administratum projects if needed.
 
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