The Long Night Part One: Embers in the Dusk: A Planetary Governor Quest (43k) Complete Sequel Up

Investigate the Sea?

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wasen't Jane once targeted by a changling? this is terrifying

whats worse is that I'm pretty sure if one was fake the other would fight it which means we probably have TWO changlings...

fortunately their dumb and nabbed the same person twice.

I thought one was Jane and one was a random changeling, not THE Changeling. As I know there is a difference.
But Jane killed the Changeling.
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:o

Am I a good Sanctionite?

(I know it was a typo, I hope. I just was playing along. The Administratum strikes again.)
 
I do think we should split one of the majors up...we will need to use a couple minors for other stuff anyway.


we want a minor for helping lin and maybe one for decripting the tech-shards within the life-span of this story
so spend one on capping Turoq (we can send areatha to lead the force....I'm sure eldar would apprecate not risking their own throats on this when we can send a trancendent alpha+ instead which also increases chance that its both succesful in the first place and possably resulting in true-death)

especally since bonus is that regardless of this battle...killing Turoq will (probably) make sure that this will be the last battle where we have to worry about splitting our fleet as a result of a smart enemy

we have a crap ton of fleet compared to them...but we will have to spread amongst our entire set of planets (except the list of untouchables like avernus) and colonys so its effectively like we ARE outnumbered because we WILL be outnumbered.


@Durin

lets say we reinforce one of the targeted planets. We know the smart guy can/will change targets but will word be able to reach the dark-mech fleets in time?

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also, I know they are ~~60 times faster then us...but if we place our entire (or most of it) fleet in front of the path of their incoming fleet(s) (IE: Asgurd). how much sooner can they reach one of our other planets? (like maybe we can split our fleet into 2 ...so that we can split the first half amongst our planets and then they simply try to not die horrably while the other half get there)
 
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Stick Areatha with Eldar strike force or Warhost and put them as reserves in the colonies to strike at Turoq when they get the chance. Also leave the the colonies relatively less defended in order to bait him.
 
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@Durin

1. If the Eldar assassinate Turoq do we still need to abide by the force price limits?
2. Wouldn't the non-assassination minor favors tie the Trust to the Eldar?
 
I'm not sure letting Turoq run around attacking in the colonies is a good idea, any fighting in the colonies Turoq is bound to have the advantage which will just give his easy victories and end up costing us more than he loses.

Instead, we should reinforce the colonies enough that he decides to act as reinforcements. while that would increase the danger for the core worlds they are better equipped to handle it. Also if he does attack one of the core worlds it would give us a chance to kill him while if he's running around stomping on colonies that is going to be very hard to do.
 
The Colonies can be used as baits for Turoq, I am assuming the eldar force is swift enough to reach any of the colonies quickly before Turoq attack on any of the colony ends.
 
@Durin

1. would the strike force target only one of the forces or would they hit all 3 with decapitation strikes?
1a. if so would they be willing to take Areatha along for multiple fronts to let her punch the armies for a bit?


2. would the warhost hit one fleet then leave?
 
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The Daemon Trackers are made and bound to Turoq though.

Hmm you may be right then I forgot about that part. But I thought we were going to sneak in troops on the merchant ships since they all ready make trips it wouldn't be caught.

I propose that we use it to do a few things first get support to make this war a cakewalk for us, that should give us a very good chance to kill Toroq. Second have the Eldar hit the forgeworlds that are attacking us that should keep them occupied for a while if not destroyed. Third have the Eldar direct a wandering Waagh at Toroq's Domain to shatter it and send Tugozak's Waagh at the other Chaos Domain so they can't take advantage. All of those are minor favor level tasks expect maybe hitting the Forgeworlds so should be covered under a major Favor.

But just to make sure @Durin
1. How much would it cost us to get the above done it could be over a period of time/turns not all at once?

1 major favour

1. Easily, will also include warships
2. Yes

So who thinks going with the above to help deal with our issues. Durin said it would cost 1 major favor for it. Most of it is spread out over years so not all the attention being dropped at once should keep us shrouded.
 
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yep....definitely worth the favor to smash these fleets early/ensure toruqs death/truedeath. especially since we don't know how big the ork fleet is/where it is going to attack us yet.
 
I think picking a strikeforce for the Eldar favor might be a good idea since decapitating enemy leadership would provide a major bonus.

@Durin
  1. Can we add other heroes and units to the Eldar Strikeforce besides Aretha? Like I imagine Jane, a primaris Execution force or the Phase Tigers would be helpful in their job.
  2. If yes to the above would there be any issues either politically or the forces not liking each other?
  3. Would this even be a good idea?
  4. What are the Abomination Titans going to be doing during their attack since I imagine they can't exactly board a space station?
  5. What about the attack on his world that worries Surt the most for reference?
 
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@Durin

1. how much damage do we think Areatha would be able to do if she went on a tour of all 3 armies?

2. would the warhost option have any real chance of true deathing Turoq? or is he too likely to poof back into the warp as soon as they show up?
 
2. would the warhost option have any real chance of true deathing Turoq? or is he too likely to poof back into the warp as soon as they show up?
We have Areatha, the Oakhearts, Lin, Xavier and the Black Crystal Sword, our main problem is getting them to Turoq, with the assistance of Eldar stealth/mobility Turoq is in a very bad place.
 
We have Areatha, the Oakhearts, Lin, Xavier and the Black Crystal Sword, our main problem is getting them to Turoq, with the assistance of Eldar stealth/mobility Turoq is in a very bad place.

the issue is the warhost means he might see their ships before our counter could hit him. If he does he might banish himself gently immediately.
 
I think picking a strikeforce for the Eldar favor might be a good idea since decapitating enemy leadership would provide a major bonus.

@Durin
  1. Can we add other heroes and units to the Eldar Strikeforce besides Aretha? Like I imagine Jane, a primaris Execution force or the Phase Tigers would be helpful in their job.
  2. If yes to the above would there be any issues either politically or the forces not liking each other?
  3. Would this even be a good idea?
  4. What are the Abomination Titans going to be doing during their attack since I imagine they can't exactly board a space station?
  5. What about the attack on his world that worries Surt the most for reference?
1. not needed
4. they can board some bits, space stations desinged to laod and offlaord gigatons of mateiral ahve some bays big enough for titans
5. the psykres
@Durin

1. how much damage do we think Areatha would be able to do if she went on a tour of all 3 armies?

2. would the warhost option have any real chance of true deathing Turoq? or is he too likely to poof back into the warp as soon as they show up?
1. quite a bit
2. not by itself
 
@Durin would it be feasible to lure Turoq onto a world with Areatha and the warhost laying in wait and then ambush him? or is it too likely Turoq would smell a rat?
 
@random_npc the Strikeforce is the assasin squad not the Warhost. Jump him with the Warhost and he will just run once his forces get ambushed.

while that is true, the Eldar are also masters of ambushes, and we have a hero who can likely true death Turoq if she makes contact. Having the warhost jump him after that point may let us end Turoq and his forces, or at least give us a shot at it. The same way Areatha tagging along with the strikeforce means she'll core out a decent chunk of the enemy army while decapitating it.
 
If we want to kill Turoq we should take the option that is directly about killing him, not breaking his forces and hoping we get lucky.
 
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