The Long Night Part One: Embers in the Dusk: A Planetary Governor Quest (43k) Complete Sequel Up

Investigate the Sea?

  • Yes

    Votes: 593 80.4%
  • No

    Votes: 145 19.6%

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    738
Huh, would have thought that Avernus of all places would have a Jokaro equivelent if not full blown Jokaro considering that it's an Old Ones Research lab. Wondering if there is at least a psyker equivelent to the Jokaro on Avernus.
It hasn't been ruled out that there is a precursor to the Jokaro species, just we haven't met it.
Remember there is a high tech civ on the planet somewhere, they'd be an excellent candidate.
 
@Durin

1. If we wanted to get our own population of nynye warbeasts, which action would we need to take to start negotiating, Sound Out or Nynye Trade?
2. What action would we need to take to get the nynye and mycenids in contact with each other? They both seem to be masters at biological stuff so I figure they'd work well together.
3. You said you didn't want to do more than two character sheets a turn. Do Clara and Cassandra's character sheet(s) count as 1 or 2 character sheets?

-Y1-Y2: Sound Out (Tech Trade - be generous. The Trust has limited ability to affect the galaxy at large, and with apocalyptic threats coming it might be best to arm the sane polities as best we can, both for our own good and for humanity as a whole)
Is everyone in agreement that we should be generous? I'll include it in my plan if so.
 
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@Enjou
Yeah to fill out the Diplo slots
Asking the Mycanids about vaccines to up ridcullys chances of success.
There is also the character sheets about the twins as well as our newest bodyguard commander after Ajax.

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along with the new head of the psyhunters
 
@Enjou, I recently had the idea to ask the eldar for a Heroic Primaris equivalent to help us do Astra Telepathica actions. This is Durin's response.
they probably have a few veteran farseers available (their equivalent of Veteran Primaris, better psykers then your Master Priamris)
Please Sound Out the eldar about the idea. Extra help with Astra Telepathica actions would be a massive boon.
 
They don't even owe us a favor yet, maybe we should wait until after the Divination on Nurgle.
We may not need a favour. We could pay for their services with things like sharing research on Avernite wildlife we do ourselves (they don't have all of Avernus' wildlife powers, after all), or paying for it with military aid, Ridcully divinations, etc. Figuring out what they'd want for this kind of thing is what Sound Out is for. They may only accept for a favour, but it's by no means a good idea to assume that to be so.
 
We may not need a favour. We could pay for their services with things like sharing research on Avernite wildlife we do ourselves (they don't have all of Avernus' wildlife powers, after all), or paying for it with military aid, Ridcully divinations, etc. Figuring out what they'd want for this kind of thing is what Sound Out is for. They may only accept for a favour, but it's by no means a good idea to assume that to be so.
Couldn't we discuss this in the conference? I mean for this turn Diplo actions will probably be tight in maximizing Ridcully's odds.
 
We may not need a favour. We could pay for their services with things like sharing research on Avernite wildlife we do ourselves (they don't have all of Avernus' wildlife powers, after all), or paying for it with military aid, Ridcully divinations, etc. Figuring out what they'd want for this kind of thing is what Sound Out is for. They may only accept for a favour, but it's by no means a good idea to assume that to be so.
We'd also need to get the high council on board.

However, I support this since my omake may get cannon with this :)
 
Couldn't we discuss this in the conference? I mean for this turn Diplo actions will probably be tight in maximizing Ridcully's odds.
Both my plan and Enjou's have gaping holes where Diplomacy actions should be. "Tight" is not the right word to describe them. As for discussing it at the conference, the High Council meeting comes before the conference, and we'll need to ask permission from them to accept a deal. The Sound Out must come first.

We'd also need to get the high council on board.
We'd need the High Council on board only to go through with a deal. Just getting price quotes is fine.
 
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[X] Plan Andres T121

Departmento Munitorum
-Y1: Implement (Locator Shells): Planning
-Y3: Implement (Shadowbat Stealth Assault Shuttle): Planning
-Y5: Implement (Landing Pad): Planning

Helheim Void Command
-Y2: Construct Defence Cruisers and Monitor for Trust
-- EXPEDITE YEAR 2

Adeptus Administratum
-Y2: Take over Build Hive: (Lonely Mountain)

Diplomacy
-Y1: Make a request (Help kill Turoq and his forces, but especially Turoq)
-Y2: Request Information (Ask the Mycenids if they or anyone they know can help with the plan to spy on Nurgle)
-Y3: Sound Out (Ask the eldar if they could lend us a Heroic Primaris equivalent and how much it would cost)
-Y4-Y5: Sound Out (Tech Trade - be generous. The Trust has limited ability to affect the galaxy at large, and with apocalyptic threats coming it might be best to arm the sane polities as best we can, both for our own good and for humanity as a whole)

Adeptus Arbites
SLOT A
-Y1: Counter-Intelligence
-Y2: Integrate Voids
-Y5: Greater Psyker Hunting
SLOT B
Y1: Integrate Nulls
Y4: Greater Psyker Hunting
Y5: Greater Psyker Hunting

Adeptus Mechanicus
SLOT A (Explorator)
-Y2: IF Vortex Shells FAILED THEN RETRY, Gravitic Engines Part Three: Replicate
SLOT B (Biologis)
-Y4: Complete Examination (Helljackals)
SLOT C (Fabricator-General)
-Y4: Build Vault (Dis)
SLOT D (Free)
-Y1: Gravitic Array: Programming

I am hesitantly delaying the Avernus Warlord Titan for next turn. We're going into what may be the final battles with Turoq, and with Areatha we may even permakill him, but to do that we need to know where he's going to hit, which is why I think it's more important to put the Double Down on getting his attack plans.

Adeptus Ministorum
SLOT A
-Y2: The Nature of (Abomination)
-- DOUBLE DOWN YEAR 2
SLOT B
-Y2: Those in the Shadows
-Y3: The Nature of (Malal)
-- DOUBLE DOWN YEAR 3

Adeptus Astra Telepathica
SLOT A (Ridcully)
-Y1: Greater Divination (Turoq's attack plans)
-- DOUBLE DOWN YEAR 1
-Y2: Divination: Attacks
-Y3: Fanning the Flames
-Y4: Greater Divination: The Throne of the Plague God
-- DOUBLE DOWN YEAR 4
SLOT B (Xavier)
-Y5: Create Psyker Order (Alkahestry)
SLOT C (Tamia)
-Y3: Implement (Trap Rune)
-Y5: Examine (Bridge Rune)
-- DOUBLE DOWN YEAR 5
SLOT D (Aria)
-Y5: Ward Vault (Dis)
SLOT D - Free Divination
-Y?: Greater Divination (Lion El'Jonson)

Personal
CONTINGENCY - Based on the projected timing of Turoq's attack, Rotbart will do Deployment (Slots A, B, and C)
SLOT A
-Y1: A New Assistant
-Y2: Personal Attention: Implement (Light Power Knife): Planning
-Y4: Personal Attention: Implement (Nightingale Stealth Bomber): Planning
SLOT B
-Y1: Personal Attention: Implement (Harvester Heavy Hover Tank): Planning
-Y3: Personal Attention: Implement (Phoenix Gunship): Planning
-Y5: Personal Attention: Implement (Phoenix Bomber): Planning
SLOT C (opens up due to Signe taking over Build Hive (Lonely Mountain))
-Y2: Spend Time With (General Richards)
-Y3: Spend Time With (General Richards)
-Y4: Spend Time With (General Richards)
-Y5: Spend Time With (General Richards)
SLOT D (opens up due to assistant pick in year 1)
-Y2: Spend Time With (Ridcully)
-Y3: Spend Time With (Ridcully)
-Y4: Speak to the People
-Y5: Speak to the People
 
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@Durin

1. If we wanted to get our own population of nynye warbeasts, which action would we need to take to start negotiating, Sound Out or Nynye Trade?
2. What action would we need to take to get the nynye and mycenids in contact with each other? They both seem to be masters at biological stuff so I figure they'd work well together.
3. You said you didn't want to do more than two character sheets a turn. Do Clara and Cassandra's character sheet(s) count as 1 or 2 character sheets?


Is everyone in agreement that we should be generous? I'll include it in my plan if so.
1. first get jounymen Alkeshtry, then Sound out
2. sound out
3. 2
 
Why would we waste Lin's on Malal? He's practically a non-entity as far as we're concerned. There are other gods out there. Why not the C'tan in general, or the Void Dragon? Or maybe one of the Eldar gods?
As I recall Durin said we can't do the Void Dragon, but if we had time Isha would give us a bonus to the throne, if we researched her.

@Durin
1. As a gift freely given has made canon, what is Lin's stance on non chaotic (or even anti chaos) warp creatures?
 
As I recall Durin said we can't do the Void Dragon, but if we had time Isha would give us a bonus to the throne, if we researched her.

Well bother. Still, I just remembered a couple of green douchebags that we have cause to study. Though I do have a question first...

@Durin
1. If we had Saint Lin study Gork and Mork, would there be much advantage to studying them separately, or would they be a case where studying them together is better since they're kind of inseparable as two sides of the same coin?
 
Make Avernus more dangerous...

Maybe once we are done with the tech trade we can work on acquiring some Catachan wildlife for Avernus?
IIRC that's one of the few things that would make the Avernites rise up against Rotbart.

However, the Planet apparently likes acquiring new wildlife for its experiments, so adding Catachanian and Nocternian wildlife may get us brownie points.
 
IIRC that's one of the few things that would make the Avernites rise up against Rotbart.

However, the Planet apparently likes acquiring new wildlife for its experiments, so adding Catachanian and Nocternian wildlife may get us brownie points.
Wouldn't it be a shame if Turoq has managed to get spies on Avernus? And all of those spies happened to have brought with them dangerous animals from Catachan and Noctern? And all those spies happen to release those deadly animals?

Darn. Curse you Turoq! We will have our revenge.
 
[X] Plan Enjou T121

Departmento Munitorum
SLOT A - Year 1
-Y1: Helguard Tithe: Second Stage

Helheim Void Command
SLOT A - Year 2
-Y2: Construct Defence Cruisers and Monitor for Trust
-- EXPEDITE YEAR 2

Adeptus Administratum
SLOT A - Year 2
-Y2: Take over Build Hive: (Lonely Mountain)

Diplomacy
SLOT A - Year 1
-Y1: Make a request (Help kill Turoq and his forces, but especially Turoq)
-Y2: Request Information (Ask the Mycenids if they or anyone they know can help with the plan to spy on Nurgle)
-Y3: Investigate (Lord-Marshal Hrothgar)
-Y4-Y5: Sound Out (Tech Trade - be generous. The Trust has limited ability to affect the galaxy at large, and with apocalyptic threats coming it might be best to arm the sane polities as best we can, both for our own good and for humanity as a whole)

Adeptus Arbites
SLOT A - Year 1
-Y1: Counter-Intelligence
-Y2: Integrate Voids
-Y5: Greater Psyker Hunting
SLOT B - Year 1
Y1: Integrate Nulls
Y4: Greater Psyker Hunting
Y5: Greater Psyker Hunting

Adeptus Mechanicus
SLOT A - Year 2 (Explorator)
-Y2: IF Vortex Shells FAILED THEN RETRY, ELSE Gravitic Engines Part Three: Replicate
SLOT B - Year 4 (Biologis)
-Y4: Complete Examination (Helljackals)
SLOT C - Year 4 (Fabricator-General)
-Y4: Build Vault (Dis)
SLOT D - Year 1 (Free)
-Y1: Titan Design: Avernus-Warlord Titan
-- DOUBLE DOWN YEAR 1

Adeptus Ministorum
SLOT A - Year 2
-Y2: The Nature of (Abomination)
-- DOUBLE DOWN YEAR 2
SLOT B - Year 2
-Y2: Those in the Shadows
-Y3: The Nature of (Gork and Mork)
-- DOUBLE DOWN YEAR 3

Malal is a waste of Lin's time. Gork and Mork on the other hand...

Adeptus Astra Telepathica
SLOT A - Year 1 (Ridcully)
-Y1: Greater Divination (Turoq's attack plans)
-Y2: Divination: Attacks
-Y3: Fanning the Flames
-Y4: Greater Divination: The Throne of the Plague God
-- DOUBLE DOWN YEAR 4
SLOT B - Year 5 (Xavier)
-Y5: Create Psyker Order (Alkahestry)
SLOT C - Year 3 (Tamia)
-Y3: Implement (Trap Rune)
-Y5: Examine (Bridge Rune)
-- DOUBLE DOWN YEAR 5
SLOT D -Year 5 (Aria)
-Y5: Ward Vault (Dis)
SLOT E - Free Divination
-Y?: Greater Divination (Lion El'Jonson)

Personal
CONTINGENCY - Based on the projected timing of Turoq's attack, Rotbart will do Deployment (Slots A, B, and C)
SLOT A - Year 1
-Y1: A New Assistant
-Y2: Personal Attention: Implement (Light Power Knife): Planning
-Y4: Personal Attention: Implement (Nightingale Stealth Bomber): Planning
SLOT B - Year 1
-Y1: Personal Attention: Implement (Locator Shells): Planning
-Y3: Personal Attention: Implement (Shadowbat Stealth Assault Shuttle): Planning
-Y5: Personal Attention: Implement (Landing Pad): Planning
SLOT C - Year 2 (opens up due to Signe taking over Build Hive (Lonely Mountain))
-Y2: Spend Time With (General Richards)
-Y3: Spend Time With (General Richards)
-Y4: Spend Time With (Jacob)
-Y5: Spend Time With (Jacob)
SLOT D - Year 2 (opens up due to assistant pick in year 1)
-Y2: Spend Time With (Ridcully)
-Y3: Spend Time With (Ridcully)
-Y4: Speak to the People
-Y5: Speak to the People
 
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As I recall Durin said we can't do the Void Dragon, but if we had time Isha would give us a bonus to the throne, if we researched her.

@Durin
1. As a gift freely given has made canon, what is Lin's stance on non chaotic (or even anti chaos) warp creatures?
1. Not inherently hostile but treat with great caution. Even the most human do not think like mortals and as such can be rather unpredictable.
Well bother. Still, I just remembered a couple of green douchebags that we have cause to study. Though I do have a question first...

@Durin
1. If we had Saint Lin study Gork and Mork, would there be much advantage to studying them separately, or would they be a case where studying them together is better since they're kind of inseparable as two sides of the same coin?
Do them together
 
@Enjou the free Mechanicus option start in year 1 not year 4. Also it would be better to have Xavier ward the vault since it is learning and control.

@Durin would the trust be ok with us asking the Eldar to fight with us? Since the Eldar in the past have always betrayed who they fought with.
 
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@Enjou you May also want to switch Aria and Xavier since Xavier has the better learning.

Also does divining Turoq attack plans have the same counter measures as his attacks do? Because if not we do not need to double down.
 
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