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- madison
do you mean in terms of military might, or raw population?
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- Thread starter Durin
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do you mean in terms of military might, or raw population?
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- A Place Miserably Bereft of Cats
This is Avernus though. Chances are what humans call them are [IMPALER NOISES].
But you could probably get away with calling them Weavers or something.
Doomed Wombat
Let's go Darling!
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- Dancing on wires!
Probably, but its still sad thinking of all the trillions of dead people.
@Durin
1. As Emps was effectively the Dragon's Jailer for a very long time, did he leave Lin any information that he could access similar to how he's figuring out stuff about chaos?
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- The internet
Probably depends on how well the Blood Angels have been rolling since we last looked at them, honestly.
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- Back in Cali
There are still stronger factions of uncorrupted humans around. Remember there are also one that are hiding and probably stay hidden. We are proportionately strong for our size but even the blood dragons are still technically stronger. There will be other but not ones we will interact with.
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- madison
honestly, I think if we merge with the dragons nest and tech them up we're going to graduate to major regional power. The kind of thing that would be expensive for even the big boys to crack open. sorta like the how the Tau where never quite high enough up the to do list to warrant the forces needed to end them. Hopefully we'll do at least as well.
Unless dragon nest has had a major expansion of thier forces we now have a bigger navy and more guardsmen. But they have better and more space marines. Also Battlebarges that can properly assault a planet. But to put it into perspective Avernus will have as many Capital ships as the whole of dragons nest soon.
While we could merge with them that is going to involve a lot of real political talk and negotiations. They have to look at thier leaks, build more industry, upgrade everything and come up what to do about the Blood Dragons.
While we could merge with them that is going to involve a lot of real political talk and negotiations. They have to look at thier leaks, build more industry, upgrade everything and come up what to do about the Blood Dragons.
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- Back in Cali
Even if we merged it would make us more vulnerable unless they are upgraded prior. That is one of our goals to slowly make merging viable. by taking actions improve our relations with them.
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- madison
of course a merger would involve a full roll out of our tech. a 150 world polity with our tech level would be scary. still not a major power, but not one to be casually wiped out.
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- madison
huh, is this up to date? cause if so our economy is only slightly smaller than the dragons nests economy. we have 8,543 kCredits to their 9,504. Which is kind of nuts, and says wonderful things about how bullshit we could be if we ever merge.
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- The United States
The C'tan seem really interesting to me. Since thoughts and emotions leave an imprint on the warp, I wonder if the C'tan have a spiritual mirror there. Maybe they are Material Gods with spiritual shadows...
HanEmpire
Delicious
That's true, but remember that a bulk of our economic output is done by Muspelheim and Niflheim, who aren't sharing their DAoT goodies just yet. Merging won't boost the Dragon Worlds much.
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- The internet
Without those two the trust has an Economy of 4610 Kcredits from 717 Billion. In contrast Dragon's nest has an ecconomy of 9,504k credits from 2100 billion. In other words, the trust is about 40% more efficient per capita then the Dragon's Nest if you discount our top two worlds.
John Masaki
The Guy With the Lightsaber
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- Atlantis
Maybe it's time to take some time to send our Inquisitor to scope them out and then work out ways to schmooze them into our hands in the next few turns of Diplomacy actions?
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- To the left. No, not there, the other left.
As it has been stated multiple times, there's nothing to share. What superior tech they have is either too heretek for us to use with current AdMech and/or require heretek things to make. Also remember that big reason why they make so much AM/EM (and other stuff) per capita is not tech advantage but incredible education bonus, population-wide juvenant, exceptional administrative efficiency and already existing extensive infrasttucture.
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- madison
point, but keep in mind right now the rest of the colonies are kind of gimped. they are not getting the best tech until they can guard it. But any merger would not happen for a while. likely well after the tech conclave, and who knows that is going to do.
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- Australia
Malcador (Character) - Warhammer 40k - Lexicanum
1. How do the Deus' geller fields compare to these "Macro-Geller fields"?
2. With some preparation and the aid of some of our tech, could Areatha do that time-acceleration thing that Malcador did to Titan except to a star fort instead of a moon?
Deimos - Warhammer 40k - Lexicanum
@Durin
1. How do the Deus' geller fields compare to these "Macro-Geller fields"?
2. With some preparation and the aid of some of our tech, could Areatha do that time-acceleration thing that Malcador did to Titan except to a star fort instead of a moon?
Deimos - Warhammer 40k - Lexicanum
3. Could we do the same with the gravitic array?
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- Alice Springs, Australia
1. Far worse
2. No
3. You mean move a moon?
If you are willing to spend a few decades yes
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- Australia
We should move the moons in the Avernus system so that they're optimally configured to our needs. The payoff would last forever and help both industrially and defensively.
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- Berkeley
Eh, I feel like the planet has them arranged exactly how it wants them.
Could be something to offer Vanaheim though.
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- The internet
The issue is cost and in system vulnerability. What happens if there is sabotage in the middle of the movement?
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- United States
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- He/Him
The planet is perfectly capable of defending itself, even from its own moons.
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- madison
@Durin I have some questions about eventually using the gravity array to mess with orbits. I know this is a long way out, but I find this kind of stellar mega project fascinating.
1. would setting up 4 large bodies into a tidally locked orbit of a world to act as mounting points for anti orbital weapons provide it with any defensive benefit?
2. could we find large resource rich bodies in the oort cloud cloud of and move them into orbit?
3. would there be worlds in the trust that could benefit from orbital adjustments?
4. would changing the orbit of the moons around cumae provide any benefit?
1. would setting up 4 large bodies into a tidally locked orbit of a world to act as mounting points for anti orbital weapons provide it with any defensive benefit?
2. could we find large resource rich bodies in the oort cloud cloud of and move them into orbit?
3. would there be worlds in the trust that could benefit from orbital adjustments?
4. would changing the orbit of the moons around cumae provide any benefit?
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- Australia
If it turns out Avernus would be offended, Ridcully will tell us. Unless we find any solid evidence suggesting we shouldn't, we should go ahead and make things better for ourselves.
If the enemy launches a raid on us while we're moving, we just get our fleet to blow them up. If the enemy is too big, we stop the movement, beat the enemy, then go back to moving. It's not some kind of fragile state of glass where the tiniest thing will break everything. Worst case scenario is we lose a few months to course correct.