The Long Night Part One: Embers in the Dusk: A Planetary Governor Quest (43k) Complete Sequel Up

Investigate the Sea?

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Minor suggestion to any plan.
Honorary Phase-Tiger(+1M, +4I, +3C, large bonus when working with the Phase-Tigers, +5 to stealth rolls, less likely to die)- Gerald Xavier has worked with the Phase-Tigers many times in gets on well enough with them to have been unofficially adapted into the regiment as an member. He he has continued to learn from them and they are credited with the increase in his already ridiculous stealth and combat abilities, which draw heavily from the uncannily efficient style that the Phase-Tigers use.
Always deploy Xavier with Phase-Tigers.
Perhaps deploy them all on a special mission to make sure the bonus is in effect?
 
[] Air Support: Concentrated - Avernus' Spine and Aridia Grand Legions

Lindon doesn't need the air support, so we should concentrate those assets where they'll be truly needed.

[] Turn the gravitic array on the largest concentration of daemons on the planet. Shunt them into space and send our space assets in to banish them.

This is in support of our orbital bombardment's efforts to ease up the daemonic pressure facing the planet. Shouldn't cost us anything.
 
hmm, we could use our less used elite units. The red tracks could be useful around the city of glass.
 
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Ok, here's my own thoughts...
Main addition is that since bombardment rules have been rescinded should we level a major bombardment anywhere?

I.e. regions that where there are going to be no air craft?

Durin has stated that each Reinforce option we take reduces the effectiveness of all of them
Sending Xavier against an Honored Bloodthirster is a horrendous idea.
Reminder a bit, but not a lot
@Durin 1 if we reinforce all 3 cities will that effect the re enforcements rolls for all significantly or not?
1. a bit but not alot
Take that how you will.

Eh, probably...on the one hand combat paragon, on the other psyker, on the third flipper stealth mode.

[] Turn the gravitic array on the largest concentration of daemons on the planet. Shunt them into space and send our space assets in to banish them.
I get the feeling we do not have the fine control to do this.

I mean yeah Avernus has rescinded the no bombardment rule, but that rule is contingent on the contingents still being in approximately the same shape at the end of the bombardment...

The issue with this for my plan is that the Phase Tigers are going against Kurrun. So sending Xavier with them would most likely just result in his death.
Maybe, maybe not.

Remember Kurrun is weakened and probably significantly compared to when he was fresh. It was a similar weakness that let Horatius score a win against a peer of Kurrun, although circumstances are very different of course.
 
Because banishing the Daemon will ease up pressure on the region as a whole, while True Death will result in their probable rout. Additionally, the city is holding well on its own.
Here's what the priorities mean:
Ridcully priority 1 - Ridcully must survive at all costs. If that means letting the daemon live and the city fall, so be it.
Daemon priority 2 - The daemon must be stopped and the city will be sacrificed if that's what is necessary, but not at the cost of Ridcully's life.
City priority 3 - The city is not as important as the region or Ridcully. If saving Ridcully or helping the region requires that the city be destroyed, let the city be destroyed.

I get the feeling we do not have the fine control to do this.

I mean yeah Avernus has rescinded the no bombardment rule, but that rule is contingent on the contingents still being in approximately the same shape at the end of the bombardment...
I'm asking Durin. I just want the gravitic array option to be enacted if Durin says it's a feasible idea.
 
@notanautomaton doomed wombat has already given the wouate but Durin said it would not have too much effect doing all three.

@Andres110 i think it is a bad idea to use the gravity array so close to the cities. While we know what it does we can only limit use of it and need a AI for better control. Also it is danger close firing to began with. If they were father away I would say go for it but the legions are near the cities. I think it is too much a risk.
 
The issue with this for my plan is that the Phase Tigers are going against Kurrun. So sending Xavier with them would most likely just result in his death.
Everyone has a chance of dying. Ridcully, Jane, smaller-yet-still-valuable heroes.
This merely shifts some of that risk onto Xavier.

Xavier's intrigue is 43, Mittens- 49. Dalve has 50+ and a Paragon.
Additionaly, Xavier covers this "inadequacy" compared to his compatriots by having bonuses to working alongside both Mittens and Phase-Tigers.
And, on top of that? Xavier has one ability capable of leveraging this intrigue to harm Khorne demons.

Imagine it, narrative wise-
Xavier uses the help of his stealth bros to get close to the demon, then launches a series of surprise attacks on him.
Phase-Tiger squad helps him out- they're tight enough to get each other's rhythm.
What would have been a minor injury turns out to be a crippling blow.
They're gone before Kurrun enters his temper tantrum, becaue they weren't there to begin with (or were they?).
 
A bit of reverse gravity won't do that much damage to the continent to be honest. Maybe a small part of a continent but that's it.
Yeah, but the world starts giving a shit when the continents start to get ****ed, so lets not push our luck here :D.

i think it is a bad idea to use the gravity array so close to the cities
I think his idea wasn't to aim it at our cities, but at the daemons on the other continent...I think.

Though I am very curious as to

A. What they were after

And

B. If they got it.

Guess when this crazy **** is over tis a question for Areatha.

Also looks like we'll need to apologise to the Eldar and ask them to delay the ambassadors. Daemon incursion they'll understand.
 
@Andres110 i think it is a bad idea to use the gravity array so close to the cities. While we know what it does we can only limit use of it and need a AI for better control. Also it is danger close firing to began with. If they were father away I would say go for it but the legions are near the cities. I think it is too much a risk.
Read the option again. The option says it's to fire on the largest concentration of daemons. The text below that says it's in support of the ortillery. The ortillery is firing on the largest concentration of daemons, which is nowhere NEAR our cities.

What you're saying about the array is also unsupported by evidence. We were told we need an AI to do things like complex shapes, multi-gravity, and faster-than-second changing. We were not told how precisely we can make the shapes. It may be that precision is not something that would be affected by computational power, or that we have enough power to be precise so long as we keep it to a simple shape.

Yeah, but the world starts giving a shit when the continents start to get ****ed, so lets not push our luck here :D.
You don't understand. I'm saying that if Durin says it's fine, we do it. If we need to "push our luck" then Durin will say it won't be fine. I only ask that you don't disagree with or underplay what the GM says if he says it's fine.
 
What you're saying about the array is also unsupported by evidence. We were told we need an AI to do things like complex shapes, multi-gravity, and faster-than-second changing. We were not told how precisely we can make the shapes. It may be that precision is not something that would be affected by computational power, or that we have enough power to be precise so long as we keep it to a simple shape.
Pretty sure all of those are control based and precision is very much affected by computational power, as it stands
Without an AI only the most simple of shapes can be affected
However, upwards is a very simple direction, even our primitive monkey brains can't screw that one up too much.

You don't understand. I'm saying that if Durin says it's fine, we do it. If we need to "push our luck" then Durin will say it won't be fine. I only ask that you don't disagree with or underplay what the GM says if he says it's fine.
TBH I was just goofing around a little (hence the emojis), but I will say that I feel its entirely possible for Durin to say we dunno in this regard. After all the best info we've got is that the continents have to be in "roughly" the same shape. When does the PM consider them to not be, I dunno.

But, yes if Durin gives it the green light then of course we're flinging them into the atmosphere!
 
On the Gravaric Arry you can not actually use it yet, you know that it is possible but have not come up with programs to do so
Also trying to use it on the same continent as anything you care about would be a very bad idea
 
On the Gravaric Arry you can not actually use it yet, you know that it is possible but have not come up with programs to do so
Also trying to use it on the same continent as anything you care about would be a very bad idea
Given that Avernus likely has stuff it cares about on every continent I get the feeling we'd have...problems.

@Durin
1. If we turned the Array up full blast how long would it take to destroy all infrastructure and the like on an imperial era world?
2. Using it as a practical war ship is unlikely, but as a system defence far more so. Does Tranth think he can reverse engineer the array within the next century or so?
3. Does he have an estimate on how much an array (the array alone) would cost to build?
 
Given that Avernus likely has stuff it cares about on every continent I get the feeling we'd have...problems.

@Durin
1. If we turned the Array up full blast how long would it take to destroy all infrastructure and the like on an imperial era world?
2. Using it as a practical war ship is unlikely, but as a system defence far more so. Does Tranth think he can reverse engineer the array within the next century or so?
3. Does he have an estimate on how much an array (the array alone) would cost to build?
You are not sure
 
So much mystery.

@Durin
1. Have we seen phase lions running around at any point?
2. Are the daemons going to get a debuff/are we going to get a buff now that one of their most important advantages just evaporated?
3. In regards to the psyker city (in Elysium I believe) that the Daemons haven't attacked...when you say they haven't attacked it do you mean that they are moving around the city (like if the daemons are a stream the city is a rock) or the Daemons are deliberately and obviously avoiding it despite the jucie psykers inside. In addition do they not even react if the city attacks them i.e. with artillery?
 
So much mystery.

@Durin
1. Have we seen phase lions running around at any point?
2. Are the daemons going to get a debuff/are we going to get a buff now that one of their most important advantages just evaporated?
3. In regards to the psyker city (in Elysium I believe) that the Daemons haven't attacked...when you say they haven't attacked it do you mean that they are moving around the city (like if the daemons are a stream the city is a rock) or the Daemons are deliberately and obviously avoiding it despite the jucie psykers inside. In addition do they not even react if the city attacks them i.e. with artillery?
1. Border lions and yes
2. They will get a rebuff
3. They are not anywhere nearby
 
@Durin
1 do we know how the other races on Avernus are doing?
2 if they are ok will they send help?
3 can we offfer to transport them?
4 would the Sirens powers be effective agiants Khorne demons?
 
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