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The Long Night Part One: Embers in the Dusk: A Planetary Governor Quest (43k) Complete Sequel Up
- Thread starter Durin
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We should try to get our and other depts to us below the million mark.
@Durin
1. Can we buy ships from Vanaheim for the Trust?
2. What is the bank on credits for us with the Trust? I beliefe to remember we had some with it for warding or selling ships to it.
3. What would Vanaheims reaction be to get below the million mark with us?
@Durin
1. Can we buy ships from Vanaheim for the Trust?
2. What is the bank on credits for us with the Trust? I beliefe to remember we had some with it for warding or selling ships to it.
3. What would Vanaheims reaction be to get below the million mark with us?
- Location
- Alice Springs, Australia
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- USA
I have a trade spreadsheet I am working on here just note this is under construction as I am trying to figure out how I want to automate and display. Also for the net at the top I included the expand helguard upkeep but nothing else into it since that seems to be our biggest action cost. Right now I just entered some purchases manually but I want to use the third sheet for actual trade and have the balance sheet fully automated.
Dynamesmouse
Bzzzzzz
I'm working on selling the Juvenat. I haven't added up our Cr totals yet, but we meet demand for Juvenat and Advanced Juvenat, but we have to ration out the Hyper Advanced Juvenat!
I don't think we do since we are only selling half of what we produce.
Dynamesmouse
Bzzzzzz
I meant that HAJ is barely half of our demand.
- Location
- USA
Does anyone have the costs for the knight titans? I have the juve nat calcs in for the balance sheet and the EM and AM columns are done, the other mats are work in progress. Also vanheim ships will have a separate sheet that has not been created yet to avoid bloat on the trade sheet.
Also if someone wants to double check and make sure I entered everything that would be great, the trade sheet should be finished at this time, credit balance and balance sheet needs most formulas in still. Sheet is here
Also if someone wants to double check and make sure I entered everything that would be great, the trade sheet should be finished at this time, credit balance and balance sheet needs most formulas in still. Sheet is here
Dynamesmouse
Bzzzzzz
We have 150M J, 10M AJ, and 200k HAJ
Asgard
Wants 9m J, 2m AJ, 100k HAJ (40k)
6,156 + 74,148 + 81,034.8 = 161,338.8 Cr
Alfheim wants 2m J, 100k AJ, and 10k HAJ (10k)
1,373.4 + 3,719 + 20,313.3 = 25,405.7 Cr
Vanaheim wants Unlimited J, 5m AJ, and 190k HAJ (53M) (100k)
36,188.4 + 184,850 + 201,918 = 422,956.4 Cr
Jotunheim wants 2m J, 100k AJ, and 10k HAJ (10k)
1,359.2 + 3,707.5 + 20,296 = 25,362.7 Cr
Midgard wants unlimited J, 2m AJ, 50k HAJ (79M) (20k)
55,157.8 + 74,526 + 101,297 = 230,980.8 Cr
Svartalfheim wants 5m J, 300k AJ, and 20k HAJ (20k)
3,457 + 11,152.2 + 40,538.6 = 55,147.8 Cr
Muspelheim wants no Juvenat
Nilfheim wants no Juvenat
Byzantuim wants no Juvenat
Demand for Regular Juvenat is 18 Million + 2 Unlimited. We have 150m Juvenat. I fulfilled everyone else's requests first, then I split the remaining Juvenat between Midgard and Vanaheim at a 60:40 ratio.
Demand for Advanced Juvenat is 9.5 Million out of 10M Advanced Juvenat.
Demand for Hyper Advanced Juvenat is 380K out of 200k. I filled the smaller demands first, then gave a little under half of everyone else's demand first.
So we can sell meet demand for everyone, except for HAJ.
Asgard
Wants 9m J, 2m AJ, 100k HAJ (40k)
6,156 + 74,148 + 81,034.8 = 161,338.8 Cr
Alfheim wants 2m J, 100k AJ, and 10k HAJ (10k)
1,373.4 + 3,719 + 20,313.3 = 25,405.7 Cr
Vanaheim wants Unlimited J, 5m AJ, and 190k HAJ (53M) (100k)
36,188.4 + 184,850 + 201,918 = 422,956.4 Cr
Jotunheim wants 2m J, 100k AJ, and 10k HAJ (10k)
1,359.2 + 3,707.5 + 20,296 = 25,362.7 Cr
Midgard wants unlimited J, 2m AJ, 50k HAJ (79M) (20k)
55,157.8 + 74,526 + 101,297 = 230,980.8 Cr
Svartalfheim wants 5m J, 300k AJ, and 20k HAJ (20k)
3,457 + 11,152.2 + 40,538.6 = 55,147.8 Cr
Muspelheim wants no Juvenat
Nilfheim wants no Juvenat
Byzantuim wants no Juvenat
Demand for Regular Juvenat is 18 Million + 2 Unlimited. We have 150m Juvenat. I fulfilled everyone else's requests first, then I split the remaining Juvenat between Midgard and Vanaheim at a 60:40 ratio.
Demand for Advanced Juvenat is 9.5 Million out of 10M Advanced Juvenat.
Demand for Hyper Advanced Juvenat is 380K out of 200k. I filled the smaller demands first, then gave a little under half of everyone else's demand first.
So we can sell meet demand for everyone, except for HAJ.
Dynamesmouse
Bzzzzzz
Can you make it so we could comment? Or let us edit it?
@Dynamesmouse please make sure to fill out Midgard and Vanaheim demand first so we can trade credits to get the max Am and Em.
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- USA
I have opened it up to comments here , I don't like opening up to edits as it is too easy for someone to change something without realizing it. Credit balance is now done, balance sheet is done, trade sheet is done. I think only thing left is creating the sheet for the vanheim ship purchases.
Oh and then setting up the conditional formatting on the balance sheet to highlight cells that go over max qty but that is the final step.
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It does not make sense for Avernus to make ships when Vanaheim can literally make 20 times what we do. These has been brought up before but in order to start selling ships we would have to massively increase our shipyards.
dragon
Ancalagon the Black
- Location
- The Skies of Arda
It's frustrating to me that we need credits, often have idle shipyard space, and don't use use it except for repairs or building orbital defenses(which are honestly getting too extensive, considering they either never get attacked or get totally wiped out no matter what).
Never mind maybe lowering naval upkeep by getting rid of the thousands of escorts we have that our naval doctrine no longer calls for except as scouts and pickets.
@Durin
I was wondering if anyone had asked this about the previous problem with attacking toruq would we be able to get help from dragons nest in either defending our worlds temporarily while we went and fucked them up or some other kind of help from them? I Looked at the info charts on their faction and it says they are just expanding and consolidating, we also gave them a bunch of stuff, i figure they love fucking up chaos as well?
I was wondering if anyone had asked this about the previous problem with attacking toruq would we be able to get help from dragons nest in either defending our worlds temporarily while we went and fucked them up or some other kind of help from them? I Looked at the info charts on their faction and it says they are just expanding and consolidating, we also gave them a bunch of stuff, i figure they love fucking up chaos as well?
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are escorts have not recovered from the war of two fronts still. That war really caused a lot of damage to us.
We have to protect the moon. More than half of the heaven inustry is there. Also most of the population growth.
dragon
Ancalagon the Black
- Location
- The Skies of Arda
agreed, which is why we make sure to draw the enemies attention away from it whenever we get attacked. Judging by the avernus orbitals, they'd get wiped though, no matter how extensively we build them up.
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- A Place Miserably Bereft of Cats
Their job is to be ablative armor and to weaken enemy fleets before they have a chance to touch down. They get wrecked a lot, sure, but how many roks have they destroyed over the years?
@Durin
I do not understand what your answer means.
1. Our fleet needs another 100 heavy cruisers (meaning we need to buy 200 in order to thide 100 of)?
2. Our fleet still needs those ships or is it the number still missed?
dragon
Ancalagon the Black
- Location
- The Skies of Arda
Bleh, i'm dreading teroq getting it's hands on tech level 13. We were too generous tech sharing with dragon's nest and I don't trust them to defend it. Hell, they're already riddled with spies and there's nothing to say that the tech teroq is showing the dark mech didn't come from there, since iirc the trust has fought off any raids and the inquisition says we haven't lost anything important.
Which is besides the point. With the point being that we often have shipyard slips idling and we apparently can't use them to get credits by building defense monitors for the colonies or other small orders.
Not enough for me think expanding them further is worthwhile, because if we get seriously challenged the fleet abandons them to hide on the moon. They don't have nearly the same effect when acting unsupported. Which means they tend to be overpriced compared to their effect when placed over avernus.
Which is besides the point. With the point being that we often have shipyard slips idling and we apparently can't use them to get credits by building defense monitors for the colonies or other small orders.
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- USA
Okay so I have thrown a bunch of trade numbers in (except for vanheim ship purchases) and we are bleeding trade credits to the tune of just under 1,000,000 net loss in trade credits overall. The biggest culprit is our adv material expenditures which is a bit over double what the trade credit cost for exotic material expenditures is. Materials from Midgard and then the ships from vanheim our the only other expenditures we have.
For selling I maxed out thrones we are sending to vanheim and nilfheim, the only two places interested and we still have a healthy budget (which will increase once the banking is online). Metal and Promethium I dipped into as well with max metal sales to everywhere except vaheim (which still had as much as the next three combined but they have no cap on what they will purchases), while promethium Byzantium we could sell 2 bil more and 8 bil more to Musphelheim. We also could sell 1 bil to midgard if we had more production.
I think production wise we want to increase promethium and metal extraction and see if we can't increase our material production as both Musphelim and Niflheim want materials which would increase the adv and exotic mats we can get from them as well as give us more Midgard (through not having to buy anything from them) credits to trade to them for more adv and exotic mats as well.
Also we need to get our AM and EM expenditures under control so priority on expanding forge cities to build the cathedrals in.
For selling I maxed out thrones we are sending to vanheim and nilfheim, the only two places interested and we still have a healthy budget (which will increase once the banking is online). Metal and Promethium I dipped into as well with max metal sales to everywhere except vaheim (which still had as much as the next three combined but they have no cap on what they will purchases), while promethium Byzantium we could sell 2 bil more and 8 bil more to Musphelheim. We also could sell 1 bil to midgard if we had more production.
I think production wise we want to increase promethium and metal extraction and see if we can't increase our material production as both Musphelim and Niflheim want materials which would increase the adv and exotic mats we can get from them as well as give us more Midgard (through not having to buy anything from them) credits to trade to them for more adv and exotic mats as well.
Also we need to get our AM and EM expenditures under control so priority on expanding forge cities to build the cathedrals in.
@Void Stalker
200 Heavy cruisers for 634,000
Escort cruiser 2000 for 240,000
33,690.7 Cr= Upkeep for Fólkvangr upkeep
here is the ship buy list with the numbers we need to pay the tithe too.
Also you need to get more AM by triple or we will have to stop all the current projects
200 Heavy cruisers for 634,000
Escort cruiser 2000 for 240,000
33,690.7 Cr= Upkeep for Fólkvangr upkeep
here is the ship buy list with the numbers we need to pay the tithe too.
Also you need to get more AM by triple or we will have to stop all the current projects
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