Doomed Wombat
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So best case scenario 5 years worst case 12 I'd say.
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The Long Night Part One: Embers in the Dusk: A Planetary Governor Quest (43k) Complete Sequel Up
- Thread starter Durin
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So we should let the Inquisition do it instead?
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- Back in Cali
[X] Plan getting it out of the way
Good enough for me has everything I think needs to be said. A little bit more than needed but nothing overbearing.
Good enough for me has everything I think needs to be said. A little bit more than needed but nothing overbearing.
We'll bring up Eldars when it's time to make proposals.
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Seriously, 40K humans adapt at stupidly fast rates all the time and considering that we live on a heavily warp touched world it also seems likely that that would have had a good affect on us. I mean if we never found out the Planet Mind no one would have likely suspected thatA Avernite were altered by something else. Hell, I've repeatedly pointed out that we didn' have concrete IC proof to worry about it several times in the past so this isn't any different.
There is a collosal difference between having very strong suspicions and solid proof based on circumstances. In light of that I just think it's just needlessly shooting ourselves in the foot by needleslly saying that we know for certain it's the planet mind itself when we don't really have concrete proof.
@Enjou I strongly suggest you add a bit mentioning what Ridcully found out about all the high level waaghs since that is critical information that the Trust must know and will influence our proposals in the future.
Doomed Wombat
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Ok let me reiterate the evidence again.
1. We are doing it at the fastest pace on record although this is taking into account that something outside is not influencing it. This is confirmed by the Inquisition and according to them the faster incidents ended horribly (presumably they tried to control it in someway and ****ed up). In addition yes humans adapt at a fast pace in terms of 40K, but a fast pace for somewhere is something like Catachan which took almost 1000 years of getting eaten alive.
2. Yes humans adapt, but they don't adapt in all areas and their adaptations come with significant downsides. Take for example the Valhallans, ice world can comfortably survive in -15 degrees butt naked, but will almost instantly incinerate if they go above 10 degrees. Humans who live in void space their entire life (ships specifically) are better at orienting themselves and other things that are useful up there, but are also significantly weaker than one that lives on a planet as well as looking creepier. High grav worlders are stronger, but they can't swim to save their lives and are often slow. Advantages that make their worlds more liveable, but disadvantages as well. We don't have the same down sides, and our augmentation is way WAAAAY too wide spread, since everything we can measure properly is being affected. And while some areas are more affected than others in no case has everything been improved with no measureable downsides (well unless you count increase psyker production as a downside). Not even the increased caloric intake is not related to the boost.
3. The psycic boost. It'd be one thing if it were avernus, but this is a genetic thing, Avernites are 1% more likely to have psyicic children off world putting us almost 1000 years a head of the rest of humanity in terms of that evolutionary trend. Guess what creature is an expert in making genetically psycic creatures?
4. Avernite creatures around us are also evolving in response to us, with small things like Phase tigers better at going through void shields, to the Thunderheads an off shoot of the Thundabeasts. Makes you think maybe Avernus has something to do with it mmmmmmmmmm?
5. All the Avernite experts we have including Areatha and the Guardian Sphinx say this is the kind of stuff Avernus does as a matter of course and since we can see it's altering the creatures around us why are we exempt?
On their own one of these could be knocked off as coincidence, all together I'd say it's pretty damming WHICH doesn't really matter, because as has been pointed out repeatedly by Word of God the Inquisition is going to tell them anyway if we don't because apparently the evidence is enough for them!
Oh here's some WOG proof on that inquisition thing!
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John Masaki
The Guy With the Lightsaber
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- Atlantis
"Are you sure we want to give a favorable reference to Chaos if Bloodbusta decides it's time to Waaagh?"
I don't know how far you have read yet but the orks got there boost like every faction and they are a serious threat to wiping out all other life.
Doomed Wombat
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Lets just say the orks are a big enough threat that we're actively rooting for Abbadon...its quite bad.
He's referencing Winston Churchill's comments regarding the potential invasion of the USSR by Hitler.
John Masaki
The Guy With the Lightsaber
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- Atlantis
Yeah, I was paraphrasing Churchill because of the sheer WTF factor of Chaos asking their mortal enemy (the Imperium) for help against the Orks. It's like the Necrons asking the Eldar for help...wait, did that ever actually happen?
Also, deciding to throw my hat into the ring.
[X] Plan Avernus Events
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Original quote by Churchill is as thus:
"If Hitler invaded hell I would make at least a favourable reference to the devil in the House of Commons."
Also, deciding to throw my hat into the ring.
[X] Plan Avernus Events
EDIT:
Original quote by Churchill is as thus:
"If Hitler invaded hell I would make at least a favourable reference to the devil in the House of Commons."
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They were asking Malal for help? Because the trust is not that big of a threat to chaos. Right now it is orks, other chaos factions, Necrons when they come back, other chaos factions, Eldar, other chaos factions, other chaos factions, other chaos factions, Xenos and than imperial leftovers right now.
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- To the left. No, not there, the other left.
Actually I was thinking about how to deal with Turoq and had an idea, what do you people think?
One of Trust's bigest advantages is abundance of elites, how about we leverage that? From what I understand Turoq's strategy requires destroy orbital defenses above a section of the planet, landing elite strikeforce(-s) to quickly overwhelm defenders near landing site(-s), grab as much stuff as possible and then bug out before reinforcements show up. We can easily assign company of Astartes, one or two hundred thousand Helguard, one or two million Helltroopers and even more Chosen to each of the vulnerable planets (27 colonies + few of more vulnerable core worlds like Alfheim and Jotunheim) and still have plenty to spare, which should be enough to slow most strike forces in their track while inflicting noticable damage to Turoq's elites (though that will most likely be mitigated by the whole psyker choir-clone thing).
Actually, we should as Sirens if any of their runes would be particularly effective against the clone-choirs. Considering it would screw Chaos they should be willing to cooperate.
One of Trust's bigest advantages is abundance of elites, how about we leverage that? From what I understand Turoq's strategy requires destroy orbital defenses above a section of the planet, landing elite strikeforce(-s) to quickly overwhelm defenders near landing site(-s), grab as much stuff as possible and then bug out before reinforcements show up. We can easily assign company of Astartes, one or two hundred thousand Helguard, one or two million Helltroopers and even more Chosen to each of the vulnerable planets (27 colonies + few of more vulnerable core worlds like Alfheim and Jotunheim) and still have plenty to spare, which should be enough to slow most strike forces in their track while inflicting noticable damage to Turoq's elites (though that will most likely be mitigated by the whole psyker choir-clone thing).
Actually, we should as Sirens if any of their runes would be particularly effective against the clone-choirs. Considering it would screw Chaos they should be willing to cooperate.
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John Masaki
The Guy With the Lightsaber
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- Atlantis
Hmm. This I like. From the talk about Turoq, he's bigger and meaner than we are, but we have the greater quality. We need to leverage that quality to the hilt.
Although...have we divined a profile of Turoq yet? If we know what kind of man he is, and what he wants, we may be able scout out a weakness in his personality and use something as inviting bait for him. And that's when we have it at him.
Doomed Wombat
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He's a recently ascended Daemon prince, once was the Astartes Chapter master of what I believe is now known as the Anteaters chapter (Durin's autocorrupt is wonderful
). He also apparently has a good relationship with some dark forge worlds.Aside from that we dunno, so divining him is likely high on the agenda.
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- To the left. No, not there, the other left.
Not Anteaters, Space Anteaters.
Just "Anteaters" would be a very silly and inappropriate name for an Astartes chapter.
Doomed Wombat
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Nope...the space anteaters...is even siillier. Appropriate for a band, but not what is meant to be a bunch of astartes
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- To the left. No, not there, the other left.
No no, Space Wolves and Space Sharks established this time honoured naming scheme, who are we to question it? Though I guess we can take the example of Astral Hawks and name them Astral Anteaters.Nope...the space anteaters...is even siillier. Appropriate for a band, but not what is meant to be a bunch of astartes
(If it's not clear I'm not being very seriuos here and may or may not be taking a piss at naming schemes of Space Marine chapters).
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- madison
I'm going to headcannon that he fell because he was embarrassed by his chapters name, and no one will be able to convince me to change my mind.