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Maybe its just me but "C'tan incoming" sounds like a very good reason to get better weapons.
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The Long Night Part One: Embers in the Dusk: A Planetary Governor Quest (43k) Complete Sequel Up
- Thread starter Durin
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Next High Council we simply bring up the point that:
@Drin
1. Asking the Eldar (only) for a price for making the tech giving possible would or would not anger or disturb them? I ask because the Eldar we can contact has probaly like Ridcully to much to do.
2. How many topics can Ridcully discuss with Eldrat during his action? I know of three (1. Tech deal. 2. The Destroyer sometime emergin in Ultramar sector. 3. The pending cult uprising through the Void Dragon for the Necrons.)
@Thread: Any other topics relevant for the Eldar?
- Chaos will get a massive tech advantage through the Dark Eldar deal.
- We have a relayable way to contact the Imperium Secundus (Ultramarines) and Third (that the Primarchs set up) through the Eldar.
- We could reach the Third Imperium with a fleet instead.
@Drin
1. Asking the Eldar (only) for a price for making the tech giving possible would or would not anger or disturb them? I ask because the Eldar we can contact has probaly like Ridcully to much to do.
2. How many topics can Ridcully discuss with Eldrat during his action? I know of three (1. Tech deal. 2. The Destroyer sometime emergin in Ultramar sector. 3. The pending cult uprising through the Void Dragon for the Necrons.)
@Thread: Any other topics relevant for the Eldar?
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He's saying he wants to do an immediate tech trade with them, on he theory that it'll happen faster and thus will give them more time to deploy the shit before said C'tan arrives.
That said, I think a major part of the decision making process there should consider exactly how much faster it would be, how much better prepared they'd be, how much less prepared other groups would be for the massive amount of shit that's going down everywhere else, etc. Also, our own action economy—I'm betting that 1x "Tech summit with these 5 polities" is significantly less than 5x "Tech trade with this 1 polity".
Shit's complicated, and until we have a better idea of exactly what benefits and costs are involved means most absolute statements really ought to be conditional on a lot of other stuff.
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As @Nurgle said this isn't based on that canon timeline, this is based on the Shape of Nightmares to Come/Age of Dusk timeline created by LordLucan, albeit with significant differences.
Abomination isn't quite as powerful.
Silent King took over much quicker.
No chance of the New Devourer.
The DE going full chaos.
The Primarch's getting together much quicker.
The Awakening being a thing.
To add to this in that timeline Gulliman dies seconds to a minute after being released from Statis, and the Lion is only brought back when the Abomination and Imotek the Storm Lord bring him out of his coma to see if he can INFORMATION REDACTED!
Silent King took over much quicker.
No chance of the New Devourer.
The DE going full chaos.
The Primarch's getting together much quicker.
The Awakening being a thing.
To add to this in that timeline Gulliman dies seconds to a minute after being released from Statis, and the Lion is only brought back when the Abomination and Imotek the Storm Lord bring him out of his coma to see if he can INFORMATION REDACTED!
Anyway on the whole we shouldn't give our tech thing I say why not?
The main argument against not doing it was that chaos would get its mitts on it, but now its going to get its mitts on Eldar Technology which is even better than our stuff, giving them a massive advantage. I'd rather our stuff be out in the galaxy now.
Anyway conference...eh.
I do want some kind of human conference facilitated by the Eldar, so we can share advantages, send troops to support one another that kinda thing.
No we can't.
The closest of the big successors is on the other end of Tempestus...waaay too far away for us to reach it within the next 100 years.
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I beliefe Durin said that it would be possible but evetything but easy.
It is possible that I have the wrong name through but there are only two big loylalist Imperiums as far as I remember...
Doomed Wombat
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There's three the Primarch's, Ultramar and Callamus.
Callamus is closet to us as it is in Segementum Tempestus (the far side) and I believe that it would take us nearly 100 years to get there never mind getting back again (assuming a convoy survived).
The other two are in Segmentum Ultima as far away from us as you can get, with Ultramar being on the far edge of Ultima which is almost literally as far away as you can get without leaving the galaxy entirely.
In any case Ultramar is the Imperium Tertius (Imperium Secundus was during the Horus Heresy) the Primarch's realm is the Imperium Quartius and Callamus I'm pretty sure just calls itself a forge empire or something like that.
Wait, I just realized something: Saar and his big sister both have prosthetic arms now!
If I could actually write more than the first few sentences of a Solvi omake, I'd make one where she and Saar teamed up to
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Wait he has a sister...or are you talking about the one that falls out of things?
Saar Haddarson, Solvi Haddarsdottir.
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*angry administratum noises*
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- England
It's a memorable character trait if nothing else. What happened to Haddar? His kids are badass and I want to see the old man himself.
Not sure, TBH, it depends on Byzantium's juve-nat policies. Their parents are either enjoying their retirement or have passed of old age. My original idea was that they were veterans of the Jotunheim civil war, where they hit things off over their shared love of military history (particularly The Art of War (their eventual marriage involved exchanging annotated copies)).
Unfortunately, that would have made them roughly a century old at the time of the founding of Byzantium. Given that Solvi was 14 and Saar 11 when they emigrated, that's a pretty big gap. Can't decide if they somehow qualified for juve-nat (Jotunheim would have wanted to preserve its elite trainers), or if they should be veterans of a different war.
If you want to know where they get their stature/looks, a glance at Haddar Saarson will tell you everything you need to know. He was a sergeant in the Jotunheim PDF. Like his son, he wrestled with the Jotun in his youth.
If you want to know where they got the badass, you'll want to look to their mother, Maria-Antoinette Persephone-Halesturm Paulson-Coolridge*. She was an Avernite (specifically from Lindon) recon specialist who eventually joined the Teachers, and she did her best to make sure her kids would have survived back home. And I've just decided that she also lost an arm at one point.
* You want to get on her nerves? Drop one of the names. Want to get defenestrated**? Call her Paulsdottir-Coolridge.
** If she likes you, she'll make sure its a first floor window.
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That sounds like a pretty Nobby name to me- lets say she had some independent wealth and they pay for Juvenat treatments out of that. Keep this hope generator running.
Or Headcrusha was just that dangerous. Ever other force of Avernus power armor regiments encountered had a high kill count much greater than the other planets.
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Headcrusher was dangerous but by far not the only engagement.
I think we simply need to work through the data gathered.
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We had entire army sized groups of power armor troops engaged against Headcrusha's horde, and a decent number saw action before that. While I don't know if it's enough to count as an effective full field test in every environment, it would be plenty to counteract the issues the elites had taking down Headcrusha.
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Just caught up. Gotta say, you have made a damn fine quest here.
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We may want to trade with the dark angels. Ok here me out at one point the Dark angels were the largest legion till a campaign greatly hurt them. There geenseed has very few mutations and they are bad mother f***ers. Not just being good tacticians but also Great swordsmen and all around space marines.
Now I think we should divine the rock first and find out what the hell is going on since them getting there shit together is important and worth a lot since they had a lot of chapters and close unity with there other chapters.
Now I think we should divine the rock first and find out what the hell is going on since them getting there shit together is important and worth a lot since they had a lot of chapters and close unity with there other chapters.
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I do agree we should check first and if they're not too nuts to trade.
The DA did have a lot of veeeeeery nice gubbinz, especially in grav and plasma tech.
However, our last check on them in general indicated that the unity of the unforgiven has shattered, and they've split into a large number of factions, complicated by the fact that often enough the factions only appear within the inner circles of the chapters. So a BB could belong to one faction due to patronage of someone within the inner circle and have no idea that they belong to that faction.
Anyway the biggest bunch of em is 10,000 men strong based on the rock and is split into four different factions while seemingly like its whole.
So yeah, currently they seem a bit barmy.
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1. it would not disturb them, doing it repeatably would but not if you do it occasionally. also if you form any sort of relations with them the first step would be setting up easier communications
2. as many as you want