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Can we drop these fucking bulb analogies already ?
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The Long Night Part One: Embers in the Dusk: A Planetary Governor Quest (43k) Complete Sequel Up
- Thread starter Durin
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- Alice Springs, Australia
1. where are they
2. no, Lins probelm is his soul cant stand its power, Jacobs is that his body cant stand his soul, a stronger body would not help Lin at all
3. no
4. yes, and it starts spewing out a constant stream of boyz
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- Alice Springs, Australia
2. some gods can do it, but not most
Doomed Wombat
Let's go Darling!
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- Dancing on wires!
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- The Bayou, Everglades
Just saying it now, if the orcs do manage to take Valinor from Demagoye, then we have an orc-infested daemon-world on our doorstep. Somewhere for orcs to build up, which is exactly what we didn't want to allow happening on Mar Sara.
Right. Well, we could if we had 1 year turns, or otherwise structured this decision in order to allow Ridcully to first divine Demagoye's response and the likely result of it.
And if we can't predict Demagoye, then we can expect Demagoye to do what's in their best interest. They're heretics, not idiots, they must know by now that we have Exterminatus weapons.
Assuming assumptions. They might instead evacuate the place. That's unlikely, but my point is that we can't predict-
Right. Well, we could if we had 1 year turns, or otherwise structured this decision in order to allow Ridcully to first divine Demagoye's response and the likely result of it.
And if we can't predict Demagoye, then we can expect Demagoye to do what's in their best interest. They're heretics, not idiots, they must know by now that we have Exterminatus weapons.
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- United States of America, Michigan
I think we should table where to direct the Waaagh! for later since I imagine it will be something we're going to vote on during the high council meeting.
Ah my bad, I meant the non-chaotic psykers found numbers:
T108
T109
Bolded the identical lines. You can see that the numbers don't add up to give the same untainted given the different number of psykers found though.
Disappointing considering how much trouble that daemon gave us for like a century.
1.i.Would it then be possible to conquer and cleanse?
1.ii. Or would it just be a daemon-ork world with all the same problems?
Ok so I don't remember but isn't it theoretically possible to cleanse a ork world? And if so we may want to let the war lord take over. He is a idiot we can direct at our enemies and than attack his world after everything in say 500 ly is destroyed and in ruins. Now these would be a hard fight to retake the world but I see it as happening decades down the road when we have fully rebuilt and improved.
I still am not convinced Daemon Worlds are impossible for us to invade and cleanse.
Big enough army, orbital bombardment+psykers to smash anything that is too big and importing in natural predators of Daemon and Chaos from Avernus we could drive Chaos off the world. Sure it turns it into Avernus-lite so no one sane would like to live there anyway, but the OG Avernites can do it.
Big enough army, orbital bombardment+psykers to smash anything that is too big and importing in natural predators of Daemon and Chaos from Avernus we could drive Chaos off the world. Sure it turns it into Avernus-lite so no one sane would like to live there anyway, but the OG Avernites can do it.
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- Asia
We need to find and research those micro organisms that cleanse taint in Avernus.
Maybe one day we could deploy them offworld.
Maybe one day we could deploy them offworld.
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- The internet
Just use our divination to have him faceplant into minefields repeatedly, then point him at the demon world once he's cut down enough that he'll barely lose.
Doomed Wombat
Let's go Darling!
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- Dancing on wires!
Because its directly connected to the warp, in fact it is basically the grossest manifestation of the warp in reality possible except for a warp storm like the Eyes of Chaos.
We cannot cleanse it of daemons unless we cut it out of the warp as infinite daemons will keep coming through.
Even if we imported thousands of Blank bears and more they would just drown in daemons.
We need at a minimum a paragon of daemonology to have the skills to fish the world out of the warp and a shit ton of power on top of that.
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- Asia
We could just kill the Waagh boss's underlings instead of going for him directly.
This would ensure that any potential successor would inexperienced and prone to making rookie mistakes.
This would ensure that any potential successor would inexperienced and prone to making rookie mistakes.
Dynamesmouse
Bzzzzzz
The thing about Daemon Worlds is that the laws of the Immaterium hold just as much sway as the laws of physics. Time moves in weird ways, and Daemon Worlds have effectively infinite reserves of Daemons. They are effectively Exterminatus proof, just standing on them subjects you to heavy taint, and the terrain is always shifting for the Prince's favor.
@Durin
1. How effective would an Order of Exploration be? Basically, a group of Primaris Psykers that assist the Biologis. Telepaths to mind control subjects for capture, Diviners to find said subjects/watch for any dangers, Biomancers to support the Biologis, Daemonologists to weaken the psychic creatures, ect...
1a. Given how progressive the Biologis is, would anyone be opposed to this Order?
1b. Could this Order also assist with exploring Avernus actions, psychic materials research actions, and Avernite wildlife powers research actions? Basically, just a dice bonus to these actions.
Yeah, I hear "infinite deamons" but I call bull on there being a infinite number of them or the ability to actually send in a infinite number of them at us even on a Daemon World.
Also there are a lot of things that live in the Warp alongside daemons so I don't see that is a exclusion factor on top that factions exist that have decided to live in the Eye of Terror. Most of them being Chaos ones more or less hostile to each other, but also got a Eldar Craftworld there for a significant amount of time.
I would be more concerned about altered state of reality as it is heavily warped on the surface of a Daemon World, but that is another reason why I want to go try and do it. To apply our technological understanding, psyker powers and the Warp to hold against Chaos on their home turf.
Also bring a shitton of Geller Field Generators.
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ArchAIngel
Sorcerer Supreme.
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- Right behind you.
He's dead hard, and he's dumb as a brick.
Who wants to see if we can get his sub-bosses to try and push his shit in?
Keyword, TRY, we don't want them to do it, but the attempt is important.
Who wants to see if we can get his sub-bosses to try and push his shit in?
Keyword, TRY, we don't want them to do it, but the attempt is important.
Doomed Wombat
Let's go Darling!
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- Dancing on wires!
Ok lets break this down.
1. Daemon worlds are practical extensions of the warp, that are also bound to an extent by the laws of the materium, if the Daemon lord in charge wants there to be infinite daemons there will be infinite daemons. What it can't do its squeeze all those daemons into a small enough space for everything to be daemons. That's why Eldar expeditions can go into the Eye to retrieve soul stones so long as they have a harlequin escort, preferably with a solitaire. This changes when the Daemon world is in contest either through civil war, or through another Daemon deciding to have a go for the world, with both bringing in as many Daemons as they can.
2. No faction has decided to live in the eye of terror by choice, not even Abbadon wants to be there its just makes him (and the rest of chaos) practically immune to reprisal. But, living in the eye is a nightmare for prosecuting a war, as the only stable way in or out is the Cadia Gate. He can't move a fleet out of it otherwise.
3. Kinda...Ulthwe wasn't in the eye it was more on the very edge hidden as well as it could be. It was not in the eye and the Eldar who lived there had to be constantly prepared for Daemons.
4. While an interesting experiment our understanding of the warp is not yet so great to contest chaos in a home field advantage.
5. According to Durin there are no ground based geller fields for humans yet. In canon there probably are, but not for us.
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*looks at name*
*looks at suggestion*
Are you sure you are Nurgle because the idea is positively Tzeentchian.
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Doomed Wombat
Let's go Darling!
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- Dancing on wires!
Nurgle's no stranger to schemes. Its the plague god
Do you have a link? I can't seem to find the 43k stuff anywhere.
Hey if you don't want to kill the maximum Number of Slaanesh followers that is up to you.
There aren't infinite daemons though. Daemons are generally created at the cost of their creator Chaos God's power - it's an extension of them that acts independently. The Chaos Gods have vast power, but it isn't infinite.
A daemon ruling a daemon world can only call in as many daemons as they have under their command or can call in for favors. That's still going to be a very large number for any daemon ruling a Daemon World, but it will likely be something like billions rather than an infinite amount. And fighting billions of daemons inside the Warp is pretty suicidal.
If the defending daemon could just call in infinite reinforcements, Valinor would still be under angyl control.
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