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The Long Night Part One: Embers in the Dusk: A Planetary Governor Quest (43k) Complete Sequel Up
- Thread starter Durin
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Dynamesmouse
Bzzzzzz
To be honest, there is not much left. I don't think that we'll break 100,000 Souls.
- Location
- Asia
We should buy this. That way we can store power to use against Alphas and other nasties.
I think this is one of the most useful runes we can get. The sooner we get it, the more effective it would be.
Honestly I think we should hold off on buying runes until we do reach 100k; we're fairly close right now and getting back to this level would take a long time. That and if we buy as many runes as feasible it'll only worsen Telepathica's backlog.
Dynamesmouse
Bzzzzzz
It's 84,000 souls to get all Defense and Enchanting Runes. It's 6,400 Souls to finish the Elementals. There's also the Inverted Fire, Protection, and Toughness Runes that I want. Imagine bathing a battlefield in flames, and our troops being completely unharmed by the fires. Inverted Protection should allow our psykers to punch through enemy Hero wards (which were in the hundreds during the Failed Crusade). Inverted Toughness is psychic Armor Piercing, which is very useful in Durin's system.
I'm more saying that we should wait to determine what our final shopping list is until the outbreak is completely over.
Well admittedly it's possible that we'd have a higher ratio of payout per soul and thus get a useful number of trade points.
To be clear we can afford to buy most of the runes. I was talking about how we can afford to buy most of the runes and then select which ones we don't buy.
While there are arguments to wait this isn't one of them. We aren't going to buy the 100k rune until after we've gotten a ton of others because the bridge rune by itself would be near worthless to us.
If we instead buy 100k worth of the lesser runes then the backlog is actually made even worse.
- Location
- To the left. No, not there, the other left.
HanEmpire
Delicious
Feel free to use this plan as template for this turn guys.
- Location
- Berkeley
@Durin
Few minor questions:
Few minor questions:
- It looks like the main Valinor Campaign action for the psykers has a 20% base success chance and is based on learning. Is this intended, or a copy-paste type error?
- What are the requirements for the expedition to Roskilde to be offered as an option? I don't think anyone wants to split our mobile forces and attention right now, but if we're missing any of the required ground work I'd like to know.
- Location
- A Place Miserably Bereft of Cats
Anyone else think we should look into an Inverted Wind rune to make our atmospheric fighters absolutely bonkers? Assuming we would be able to put them on the main fuselage without compromising lift, it'd be a significant boost to maneuverability. We could even put them on our trains to speed up transport by reducing air resistance.
Of the non-inverted runes available, Enchantment, Focus, Power and Warding all seem very useful. The first improves our rune-work overall, while the second has been requested by Ridcully and the others for years now. Power means we can better prep for high-end Psyker threats and Warding just means we improve our wards even more than they already are.
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Doomed Wombat
Let's go Darling!
- Location
- Dancing on wires!
Ehhh...We can't enchant...
At least not in the way I think you're thinking.
We can make higher quality runes for different levels, but not what I think you're getting at...
- Location
- To the left. No, not there, the other left.
No, he's asking about rune of enchanting, he just wasn't very clear about it.
And it's actually a good question since "more effectively added" can mean both "the rune added this way is more effective" and/or "the process of adding a rune to the item is easier".
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Doomed Wombat
Let's go Darling!
- Location
- Dancing on wires!
Thought so.
Then to his question who knows.
It may mean its cheaper to add, it may increase the effectiveness or what ever.
We won't know until we get it.
HanEmpire
Delicious
Noted, but I'm not sure what else to do with the Admin slots other than spamming Economic Focus for years. As it is I'm for alleviating the oncoming overpopulation issue.
You have a point about the Munition Stores but I still think they're a worthwhile investment. All our invasions to date have been by enemies who vastly underestimated Avernus. If we ever get invaded by a faction geared up to out-attrition us (eg. a massive WAAAGH!), we're gonna need all the guns we can get. Especially since, as you pointed out, the rails are gonna get cut no matter what.
My intuition was that having extra-fragile Battlecruisers fitted with close-range weapons and slowing it down would make for a truly useless ship-class. But I'll concede to your math-fu.
[] Plan ______ T106
Munitorum
Slot A - Year 2
-Y2: Hyper Advanced-Juv Nat: Veterans
-Y5: Hellord Regiments
Slot B - Year 2
-Y2: Lessons Learned: Orks
-Y3: Recruit
Void Command
N/A
Administratum
Slot A - Year 1
-Y1: Administrative Shake up
-Y3: Munition Stores
Slot B - Year 1
-Y1: Administrative Shake up
-Y3: Economic Focus (Thrones)
-Y4: Expand (Limberlost) to Small Hive
Slot C - Year 1
-Y1: Administrative Shake up
-Y3: Economic Focus (Thrones)
-Y4: Expand (Yphax) to Small Hive
Diplomacy
Slot A - Year 3
-Y3: Sirens Trade (rune list here)
-Y4: Investigate: Blood Dragons
Arbites
Slot A - Year 1
-Y1: Security Review
Mechanicus
Slot A - Year 1 (Explorator)
-Y1: Gravatic Engines Part Two: Repair
--REPEAT IF FAILED
--DOUBLE DOWN YEAR 1 (and 4, if repeated)
-Y4: Examine: Goliath Class Factory Ship: Part Two
--DOUBLE DOWN YEAR 4
Slot B - Year 2 (Biologis)
-Y2: Complete Examination (some species here)
Slot C - Year 2 (Fabricator-General)
-Y2: Expand Forge-Hive: Erecura
Slot D - Year 1 (Free)
-Y1: Gravatic Engines Part Two: Repair
--REPEAT IF FAILED
-Y4: Hyper Battle Cruiser Design: Ragnarok Cannon
Ministorum
Slot A - Year 1
-Y1: Preaching
-Y2: The Power of Faith
--DOUBLE DOWN YEAR 2
Telepathica
Slot A - Year 1 (Ridcully)
-Y1: Cheating
-Y2: Focused Divination (Avernus, Azure Bay Tunnel Plan)
--REPEAT IF FAILED
-Y4: Psychic Materials: Carniflower
-Y5: Research: Immaterial Resonance
--DOUBLE DOWN YEAR 5
Slot B - Year 1 (Xavier)
-Y1: Siren Rune of Banishment: Black Irons
-Y5: Valinor Campaign: Support
Slot C - Year 1 (Aria)
-Y1: Valinor Campaign: Psykers
-Y2: Valinor Campaign: Support
-Y4: Mentoring: Beta
--DOUBLE DOWN YEAR 3
-Y4: Psychic Materials: Bombardment Cacti
-Y5: Psychic Materials: Carniflower
Slot D - (Free Divination)
-Salamanders Chapter and Primarch Vulkan
Personal
SLOT A - Year 1
-Y1: Personal Attention: Valinor Campaign: Middle of the Road
SLOT B - Year 1
-Y1: Personal Attention: Valinor Campaign: Naval
SLOT C - Year 1
-Y1-3: Spend Time With (Syr)
-Y4-5: Spend Time With (Jacob)
Anyone feeling up to calculating the costs of this plan?
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- Location
- To the left. No, not there, the other left.
We have no Alpha of appropriate age to mentor, the one we have is still 2 turns away from graduation.
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HanEmpire
Delicious
Oh, thank you. I'll fix that.
- Location
- To the left. No, not there, the other left.
@HanEmpire
I would also like for you to drop Goliath research, it's very time-consuming project (especially since after reverse-engineering we would need to redesign it for it to be actually useful anyways) for something we don't really need.
I would much prefer we work on Grav-Shear weaponry instead, because I really would like for our heroes to get their hands on weaponry that was considered bleeding-edge by late DAoT weapon researchers, it would also allow Granalf to get started on Jacob's sword (the hyper-advanced tech will work really well with Granalf's paragon trait). Doing difficult gravity research should bring Tranth closer to some sort Grav-mastery style trait as well.
Starting on titans is also a better option, since while it's even lengthier the pay-off is way better.
I would also like for you to drop Goliath research, it's very time-consuming project (especially since after reverse-engineering we would need to redesign it for it to be actually useful anyways) for something we don't really need.
I would much prefer we work on Grav-Shear weaponry instead, because I really would like for our heroes to get their hands on weaponry that was considered bleeding-edge by late DAoT weapon researchers, it would also allow Granalf to get started on Jacob's sword (the hyper-advanced tech will work really well with Granalf's paragon trait). Doing difficult gravity research should bring Tranth closer to some sort Grav-mastery style trait as well.
Starting on titans is also a better option, since while it's even lengthier the pay-off is way better.
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- Location
- madison
my god, you appear to have tamed the armor equation. if you don't mind me asking, could you give me an idea of how much armor is needed to seriously impact the damage of a nova cannon? I've been eyeballing it but having an idea of how limiting ap 8 is would be nice. I've been trying to work out how feasible a task force of NC ships would be for trying to attrite down heavy vessels, but I have no idea how armor really works in this system.
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- Location
- Huezil
It's probably Blink Spider silk.
Doomed Wombat
Let's go Darling!
- Location
- Dancing on wires!
Oh we have that, but Angel Steel isn't exactly something we can mass produce.
On the other hand if used right, in a suit of armour nothing short of an anti titan weapon (or something of similar AP) will be able to scratch it.
HanEmpire
Delicious
I don't know about that. We're planning on sending an Explorator Fleet hundreds of LY away from the nearest port, and the Trust'll be colonizing an entire sub-sector soon-ish. The Trust's logistics arm needs a good boost right about now. Plus the Grav-Shear tech's chances are pretty low. I'd like to get the low-hanging fruits out of the way first.
Doomed Wombat
Let's go Darling!
- Location
- Dancing on wires!
While the logistics is good, the explorator isn't.
In most explorator fleets it would be useful, but that's cause they're quite slow.
The goliath isn't of as much use there as we want to move fast and the Well can substitute pretty well with its own internal factories. Not perfect, but better than anything else.