The Long Night Part One: Embers in the Dusk: A Planetary Governor Quest (43k) Complete Sequel Up

Investigate the Sea?

  • Yes

    Votes: 593 80.4%
  • No

    Votes: 145 19.6%

  • Total voters
    738
on warhammer fantasy comparisons, I look for ideas in fantasy as well as 40k but do not consider anything in it canon (barring the High Elf Gods are the Eldar gods, fantasy goes into a lot more details about them)
 
There's enough similarities between the two that sometimes it's helpful to take one setting into account when discussing the other. It's unhelpful and detrimental to dismiss it wholesale.


But if you insist on strangling good and worthwhile discussion because you arbitrarily decided that partially borrowing something from one setting for a fundamentally similar setting is bad, I'll answer this question.

End Times. Kaldor Draigo made a cameo.
Because we are always bringing up the winds of magic, warp stone is a fairly common reagent and most warp entities are merely blue and orange morality rather than just explicitly asses.

I'm not trying to quash discussion, the two just are not directly comparable...GM interrupt.

In other news Thanquol also yelled at "Eldrad" in the end times through a rat powered radio...the "silver knight" also did stuff...end times was full of fun, dumb things...more of the dumb, but also the dumb fun.
 
Project for later, conservatives are still too strong and would still throw too big a bitch fit about filthy meat bags doing that.

It would be more efficient and Scott's all on board, but...well.
I think it's worth checking on if it can be done. The conservatives have taken a huge blow to their credibility already. Their numbers pretty much have to be in decline at this point.

I think now might be our best opportunity to just pull the trigger and have it out with them so we could move forward.

1. EVEN MORE JuveNat. Yeah, we have a massive surplus, but if we build even more Juvenat we can trade away even more. Excellent trade good.
2. Mass Hive enlargement. More people means more thrones.
3. Maybe a project to intergrate more flora into the Avernite cities?
4. Implement starship grade shielding for our cities.
5. Investigate Sanctionites and their role in Avernite city production, see if things can be improved.
1. We already have enough juvenat to fill all the trade options for it we've seen.
2. More space doesn't generate the people to fill that space, but still costs a ton of money. Doing hive enlargements when the population requires them is better.
3. The flora on avernus is hyperlethal too.
4. Our city shields are way stronger than starship shields.
 
Perhaps we might expand the aerial delivery system we currently use to supply the islands?

We use trains for all our inter-hive needs because they are the most efficient, defensible and cheap method of transport, however they are also ground bound and have been cut off by armies and wildlife before.

By opening up an aerial network we force any attacking army to invest in AA if they want to be able to seige a hive.

Have a redundant transport network as a contingency could be quite useful going forward.
 
I think it's worth checking on if it can be done. The conservatives have taken a huge blow to their credibility already. Their numbers pretty much have to be in decline at this point.

I think now might be our best opportunity to just pull the trigger and have it out with them so we could move forward.
Well we're gonna have to take the investigation option to see what kinda state they're in.

We should probably do that this turn as the Titan enhancement finishes this turn.

Still no civil war please. They still likely control the Vanir ship yards and could cause a lot of damage to them if they wanted to be spiteful.

3. The flora on avernus is hyperlethal too.
Eh...not all of it...we exported the bear grass, there's probably other things that don't kill you instantly.

Don't blame me for thinking about the idea. I'm the new guy.
Nobody's blaming you...

Perhaps we might expand the aerial delivery system we currently use to supply the islands?

We use trains for all our inter-hive needs because they are the most efficient, defensible and cheap method of transport, however they are also ground bound and have been cut off by armies and wildlife before.

By opening up an aerial network we force any attacking army to invest in AA if they want to be able to seige a hive.

Have a redundant transport network as a contingency could be quite useful going forward.
Not sure that's really useful...

On the first hand any army worthy of the name has both AA and fighters of its own to take them down.

There's a reason that the option to expand the underseas network has been sitting on our desk for a while.

Eh maybe I'm just not thinking big enough...
 
An investigation about coruption (the mafia style) in the administratum (and counter messuares). Based on results can be a chain of actions.

Investigation into different administratum structures (Centrelazid vs Dispersed or their combination).

To write the administratum part of Codex Avernus I beliefe a head of administratum is needed that leaded it long enough.

Expansion of the civilian orbital infrastructure.
 
In other news Thanquol also yelled at "Eldrad" in the end times through a rat powered radio...the "silver knight" also did stuff...end times was full of fun, dumb things...more of the dumb, but also the dumb fun.

honestly, I think if someone were willing to wade into the end times they could pull out enough decent ideas to be able to build something good out of it. They'd have to sand off a lot of stupid to do it though. for example, instead of having Thanquol be actually competent all of a sudden just have him get turned into a hand puppet by the horned rat due to a bungled attempt at ascension.

Don't blame me for thinking about the idea. I'm the new guy.

Nobody's blaming you...

oh I am totally blaming him. thousand year blood feud, cursing his decedents, the whole nine yards. I shall rain vengeance and doom upon him until the sun goes cold for those four words! :V
 
If chaos wants to eat kill rape people and worse.

How could law gods be just as bad as chaos, nothing the law can do can be just as bad as what chaos gods do?
 
If chaos wants to eat kill rape people and worse.

How could law gods be just as bad as chaos, nothing the law can do can be just as bad as what chaos gods do?
First Law is quite happy to eat, kill and rape people for the greater good of killing chaos.

If every time one hundred babies were killed chaos was weakened Law would probably carve it into a mountain side that every 9 in ten babies were to be killed. Thankfully that isn't the case. If it increased their power chaos would also do so...in fact they already do so.

As for how they can be just as bad well it would take away free will away completely.

Anything that has any potential to cause chaos would be suppressed, emotions gone, free will, gone, individuality, also gone. Are you an orderly blank slate with nothing in there? Perfect.

+ Laws would have to be obeyed no matter how horrible. The letter of the law is all that matters there...not intent.

Both are so creepy I hate to think about it.
 
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If chaos wants to eat kill rape people and worse.

How could law gods be just as bad as chaos, nothing the law can do can be just as bad as what chaos gods do?
Gods of Law will demand obedience to laws, no matter if they're just or not. So if a super misogynistic society creates a law that mandates that all women be rendered blind so as to stop them from being independent of men, then the followers of the Gods of Law will go around plucking out female eyes. They'll implement all laws down to the letter and intent, in that order.
 
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If Durin is still looking for Admin projects, might I suggest creating/updating a system for increased military recruitment? I'm thinking something that makes the idea of taking a few turns to let the armies of Avernus naturally regenerate it's numbers more viable, instead of choosing to commit to a more immediately expensive option.
 
few turns to let the armies of Avernus naturally regenerate it's numbers more viable, instead of choosing to commit to a more immediately expensive option.
Already done...at the moment it keeps things stable, but the current casualties we took it would take too long for everything to be replaced by default recruitment.
 
Hm, maybe expand the underground portions of the city? Though that sounds like a great way to get Wyrm attacks. I don't have many ideas that are large-scale things, to be honest.
 
Already done...at the moment it keeps things stable, but the current casualties we took it would take too long for everything to be replaced by default recruitment.

What about updating and improving that system for increased effects? Enough that too long turns into a while. Or maybe adjust the system so that these major replenishments would be cheaper.

Just throwing some ideas out and seeing what sticks and I thought something making the 'major recruitment after every war' no longer a must have choice in plans after a major war might be nice.
 
If Durin is still looking for Admin projects, might I suggest creating/updating a system for increased military recruitment? I'm thinking something that makes the idea of taking a few turns to let the armies of Avernus naturally regenerate it's numbers more viable, instead of choosing to commit to a more immediately expensive option.
1. That are military actions.
2. Durin said that doing actions to recoup losses is cheaper than letting the existing background training handle it.
 
Hm, maybe expand the underground portions of the city? Though that sounds like a great way to get Wyrm attacks. I don't have many ideas that are large-scale things, to be honest.
Also the threat of hitting the caverns though I doubt that's a problem in most places...guess the main issue is that its just easier to build on the surface?
 
Well, it would fall under Mechanicus actions, but would encouraging recruitment amongst them help at all, or is their current number pretty close to maximum efficiency?
 
Well, it would fall under Mechanicus actions, but would encouraging recruitment amongst them help at all, or is their current number pretty close to maximum efficiency?
They've got their recruitment criteria, we don't know what those are and Scott wouldn't let us interfere anyhow, but apparently they are doing it at the max rate they can.

mmm Orbital spire? IIRC @Durin said no at one point, but I'd be interested if his stance has changed?

...Maybe just add a repeatable economic stimulus action? To encourage business ect. We certainly have something like that already, but something bigger?
 
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