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The Long Night Part One: Embers in the Dusk: A Planetary Governor Quest (43k) Complete Sequel Up

Investigate the Sea?

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I'm still waiting for Chaos to get their power up to be honest. Maybe Lorgar will create a new god or something.
 
Arlos said:
Really? I guess that's a matter of taste then.
I just find it a bit off putting to be honest, not really what I'm looking for in Warhammer. :/
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To be honest what I love about Warhammer is the glorification of WAR and the epic scale of its battles. You can feel the rage and fury of battle exploding before your eyes. That dramatic impact of strife and bloodshed. However the grimdark parts can be tiring and wear you down over time, which I guess is the point. But for me I like the heroes to win and beat the bad guys or at least have a fighting chance to be powerful. Again I prefer NobleDark more then GrimDark. But to each his own;)
 
Well, damn.

Anyway, we are getting some sweet, sweet upgrades done here. Advanced Wards Advanced Terminator Armour should be something to behold.

Kinda makes me wonder how the Eldar (and apparently the Krork?) are so above and beyond our tech levels. Does diminishing returns kick in hard?

I don't see how the Eldar couldn't curb stomp just about everything if they are twice+ our tech level. Aren't they at a level they should just laugh off SM companies much like one of our PA soldiers would a hundred medieval knights?

Or perhaps it's inflated due to the esoteric nature, and the scale is relative to each group's understanding?
 
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*puts on tinfoil hat*
Durin said:
One Beta-level Diviner/Daemonologist failed to kill anyone but did successfully telaport Jacob Oakheart deep into the caverns, before calmly waiting for his inevitable death at the hands of Jacobs loyal team. While many have written him off as dead Ridcully encouraged Jane not to lose hope. So she hasn't.
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Ridcully has become as occupied as the players when it comes to increasing the stats of Avernus heroes.:grin:
nat_401 said:
Why didn't that chaos beta teleport Jacob into the atmosphere or inside a magma worm or something?
If they could accurately teleport Jacob into the Caverns with its weird lovecraftian geometry thing going on they could of insta killed Jacob in any number of ways and they had the divination skills to ensure it.
What future were they working towards by putting Jacon into a situation where he had to break through his block in improving his sword skills or die?
Tis spooky.
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Nah, Ridcully was fully aware of the chaotic diviner, he just clouded the beta's precognition to make him teleport Jacob to a sufficiently safe enough spot that he'd still get his paragon trait.:V
 
TotallyNotEvil said:
Kinda makes me wonder how the Eldar (and apparently the Krork?) are so above and beyond our tech levels. Does diminishing returns kick in hard?
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Apparently yes diminishing returns on the other hand they got a big uplift due to Old Ones who had millions of years to reach the pinnacle of technology.

TotallyNotEvil said:
I don't see how the Eldar couldn't curb stomp just about everything if they are twice+ our tech level. Aren't they at a level they should just laugh off SM companies much like one of our PA soldiers would a hundred medieval knights?
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Because numbers.
 
Poor Jacob. Hope the dude gets rescued.


Also lots of failures from Telepathica.

I personally like the characterisation of Krorks. These guys were created by the Old Ones. Making them mindless Orks but more killier and with access to more dakka would be doing them a disservice.

These guys were the contemporaries of the Eldar, so I am glad that Durin didn't make Krorks waaagh obsessed savages.

Just my two cents.
 
Doomed Wombat said:
Apparently yes diminishing returns on the other hand they got a big uplift due to Old Ones who had millions of years to reach the pinnacle of technology.


Because numbers.
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Yeah, but we are currently leaps and bounds ahead of the old imperium, and we've barely gone up a few levels, while the only thing we know about the Eldar is that they have something like twice our tech level.

We don't see a single escort of theirs soloing an Imperial fleet. Or even a "mere" battleship. We don't see their warrior's armor be all but immune to imperial-grade fire. We don't see their weapons tear through SM armour as if it were wet paper.

The only logical explanation is that their enormous knowledge in highly esoteric fields, aka psychic stuff, "artificially" boosts their tech level. We don't know the first thing about wraithbone of infinity circuits or the freaking Webway. But our ships can blow their's up just fine, our armour can stop their rounds and our weapons shoot them dead.
 
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TotallyNotEvil said:
We don't see a single escort of theirs soloing an Imperial fleet. Or even a "mere" battleship. We don't see their warrior's armor be all but immune to imperial-grade fire. We don't see their weapons tear through SM Armour as if it were wet paper.

The only logical explanation is that their enormous knowledge in highly esoteric fields, aka psychic stuff, "artificially" boosts their tech level. We don't know the first thing about wraithbone of infinity circuits or the freaking Webway. But our ships can blow their's up just fine, our armour can stop their rounds and our weapons shoot them dead.
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Before Ynnead awakened that worked, but now they can actually use that psyker stuff without being nommed.

Though at the moment it's speculation since we've yet to see the Eldar fight.

An example of 30+ in action is the crons who were soloing battle fleets with single ships every once in a while
 
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TotallyNotEvil said:
Yeah, but we are currently leaps and bounds ahead of the old imperium, and we've barely gone up a few levels, while the only thing we know about the Eldar is that they have something like twice our tech level.

We don't see a single escort of theirs soloing an Imperial fleet. Or even a "mere" battleship. We don't see their warrior's armor be all but immune to imperial-grade fire. We don't see their weapons tear through SM armour as if it were wet paper.

The only logical explanation is that their enormous knowledge in highly esoteric fields, aka psychic stuff, "artificially" boosts their tech level. We don't know the first thing about wraithbone of infinity circuits or the freaking Webway. But our ships can blow their's up just fine, our armour can stop their rounds and our weapons shoot them dead.
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Remember that Craftworld Eldar are the scattered survivors of Eldar empire, they ships are basically a pleasure yachts with bunch of guns of some defense tech strapped on, while their basic troops are little more than bunch of amish in armor suits made out of sheet metal armed with hunting crossbows riding in a pickup trucks.
 
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Wheel of time said:
To be honest what I love about Warhammer is the glorification of WAR and the epic scale of its battles. You can feel the rage and fury of battle exploding before your eyes. That dramatic impact of strife and bloodshed. However the grimdark parts can be tiring and wear you down over time, which I guess is the point. But for me I like the heroes to win and beat the bad guys or at least have a fighting chance to be powerful. Again I prefer NobleDark more then GrimDark. But to each his own;)
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Makes me wonder if we will actually ever get a Grimdark warhammer quest :(
 
So how many webway trips do we think we can get in exchange for our info on the Dark Eldar. I'm personally looking to eventually get four from them in order.

1) Rosklide expedition
2) Callamus
3) Vulkan's realm
4) Ultramar

This order lets us bump up our tech levels even further before trading and ends with Ultramar getting every single shiny from us and the three other places.
 
Doomed Wombat said:
Bunch of milita men really.

Amish are the exodites.
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Sort of, craftworlders are big on limiting their excess and pleasure, they are mostly descendant of fringe groups who rejected the decadence and debauchery of core Eldar worlds. Basically equivalent of strange sects living in a remote compounds shouting how you all should repent your wicked ways and the end is nigh (though in this case they happened to be correct about that).
 
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Arlos said:
Makes me wonder if we will actually ever get a Grimdark warhammer quest :(
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RedFlag is GrimDark to the max.
DeusFerreus said:
Remember that Craftworld Eldar are basically scattered survivors of Eldar empire, they ships are basically a pleasure yachts with bunch of guns of seme defense tech strapped on, while their basic troops are little more than bunch of amish in armor suits made out of sheet metal armed with hunting crossbows riding in a pickup trucks.
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DeusFerreus said:
Sort of, craftworlders are big on limiting their excess and pleasure, they are descendant of fringe groups who rejected the decadence and debauchery of core Eldar worlds. Basically equivalent of strange sects living in a remote compound shouting how you all should repent and the end is nigh (though they happened to be correct about that).
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I am loving these humoerus descriptions of the Eldar:lol
:rofl: how would you describe the Imperal Trust and Avernites in particalur in those terms? It would be funny to hear.
 
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Welp.

Jacob needs some omakes. Back to the mines, everyone.

(Did we get him his relic sword? I forget)
 
DeusFerreus said:
Sort of, craftworlders are big on limiting their excess and pleasure, they are descendant of fringe groups who rejected the decadence and debauchery of core Eldar worlds. Basically equivalent of strange sects living in a remote compound shouting how you all should repent and the end is nigh.
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Eh?

The Exodites are big on limiting it, but they're not as puritanical as the Exodites.

The Craftworlders are the descendent of traders ect. who were far away from the main eldar culture and so not as effective.

The exodites were the fringe group and they look down on most craftworlders for being too debauched.

Stormgear said:
(Did we get him his relic sword? I forget)
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Gravsheer so no.
 
Doomed Wombat said:
Eh?

The Exodites are big on limiting it, but they're not as puritanical as the Exodites.

The Craftworlders are the descendent of traders ect. who were far away from the main eldar culture and so not as effective.

The exodites were the fringe group and they look down on most craftworlders for being too debauched.


Gravsheer so no.
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I'm pretty sure that the Craftworlders were also puritanical, and were the descendants of religious extremists from the old Eldar empire.
 
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