Doomed Wombat
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Do note that this I think this is mostly to flesh out the Admech rather than to confer advantage onto one side or another.
Well and also to get nice shiny stuff
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The Long Night Part One: Embers in the Dusk: A Planetary Governor Quest (43k) Complete Sequel Up
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Well and also to get nice shiny stuff
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We have a broken stc fabricator right?
Doomed Wombat
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Yes we do.
In case I can predict your line of questioning yes now we might be able to precog it now and attempt to repair it.
Whether or not we can and even if we can whether or not it is advisable is another thing entirely.
Yeah, IIRC Ridcully can divine it now. The question is, is now the time?
My completely rational and overwhelming fear of the Beast says fuck it. Do it now.
Doomed Wombat
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Not quite he can try, whether or not he can give Tranth info that would be useful for repairing it is another story.
On the other hand my fear of chaos says one sec.
According to Durin they'd have run us over ASAP if we got a undamaged STC and they might do the same if we repair it.
There's also the question of whether or not the constructor is useful beyond Admech love, the data inside the Constructor will not be repaired, so we may just get a very fancy show piece.
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Not until we are ready to fight multiple Chaos Space Marine Legions led by Daemon Primarchs.
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What does it do?
The STC system is an AI that designs STC templates.
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Most immediately, it probably massively reduces admech instability.
In the long run, it lets us build new STCs, which is super good. Also it makes us a target for the Dark Mech.
My dear Wombat you seem to have forgotten something about the new state of the galaxy. Not to mention whatever else will happen in time.
Chaos isn't a predator anymore, it's the prey for true predators.
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You mean the STC fabricator, right?
I understand that "STC systems possessed the ability not just to store information but also to produce new designs to meet changing circumstances."
[edit] no, forget it, that was a stupid question.
Also: AI. Why does the Mechanicus not hate it?
To a degree. For now.
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Godzillaslayer10
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We already are a target for the Dark Mech, but repairing the STC fabricator would have them make us be priority one, and All the Demon Primarchs would start heading toward us. It's uh, I'd like to have better defenses than Terra if we do decide to repair it.
Doomed Wombat
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Well we personally have defences comparable (if not equal) to Mars and Terra apparently.
It's a system that designs STCs AI is a probably ? at the moment...I've certainly never heard of the STC constructors being AI.
eeeeeeeeeer nope.
Maybe in the future, but Chaos is still one of the most powerful forces in the galaxy and could match Gork and Mork if they stopped fighting and given how they will unite if they feel threatened Ala emps...
Quite likely.
The whole thing is quite confusing.
My general understanding is that the STC system is just the term given to everything created by an STC, the constructor/fabricator is the name given to the device that is given data and produces a device to deal with the circumstances with available materials as well as storing data on more advanced things.
For instance a world has unique terrain input data into the constructor and it will spit out a special type of tread that will be the best on that type of terrain and will most likely be better on all types of terrain.
Because there's not guarantee it is an AI to my knowledge and not simply a gobsmackedingly sophisticated programme.
Eh...maybe an exaggeration there...
Not that a Demon Primarch wouldn't be coming to wreak shit, just that I think it'd only be Perterabo who'd care.
Unfortunately he has the Phalanx now and we'd need much stronger defences than Terra as, word of reminder, he cracked Terra's defences.
Yeah...if we repair it and he comes our only salvation would be the Planet going HATE so hard a Great One intervenes on our behalf.
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STC in 40k is somewhat of an overloaded term. It can refer to the product, the design of the product (often termed the template), the automated factory that makes something according to a template, or the system that produces templates for both products and factories. The last one is the holy grail of the Mechanicus. It is the entirety of the wisdom and knowledge of the ancients who lived during the Dark Age of Technology, condensed and distiĺled into a single device. As for the AI that creates new paterns, it is likely closer to a VI, as opposed to something like the Men of Iron. It won't pass a Turing Test, but it will provide an optimised solution for your problem given the resources at hand.
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If chaos don't have more bullshit to be relevant I would call... Well BS. One of their gods is planner and also the plan. Another is the warrior and also the war, and had his receive a lot of power with this last centures and millennium. They kind of need to have super weapons to be relevant enough. Unleash the god malice, use pieces of old ones, the use of more daemons, a free or at the cost favor for their minions. Hell I would believe if someone told me that they can do the fusion dance or at last kill and steal each other domains, the followers of all the four gods must reach balance in some form so this is not as ridiculous/ impossible as I would like,
I'm talking about forces in the Materium. Chaos in the Warp is a different discussion. I'm just saying the mortal servants of chaos should start feeling like prey now.
Doomed Wombat
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The forces in the Materium are still a significant threat on their own.
Abaddon has killed off two first founding chapters (sure he got kicked by Bjorn, but in response I say It's BJORN and he still won. He could duel Demon Magnus) has got access to a presumably massive chaos Imperium and on the other side of the galaxy is Horon black heart who took another first founders home world.
And of course the most significant reason they're powerful now is that nobody can stop them...to explain.
In the Imperium if someone was going to summon an Exalted Demon like Kairos, Aetaous An'ggrath or Ka'Bannda the Grey Knights would be there to stop them.
Aside from luck, speed or eldar there are no forces left to stop them summoning them in assuming they can do the rituals.
As a reminder Exalted Demons are Apex Psykers in Embers verse.
Oh and if a polity like one of our neighbours can make a super weapon shielded by a Lord of Change Imagine what the other larger ones can drag out.
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They are still one of the strongest types of common faction for their size. Now orks will need higher odds yes, but against minor Xenos, petty imperium's and the like, they're still more powerful than they should be. Having active gods does that.
Yeah, but they're still outclassed by the Beast and probably by the Krork. Old one bio weapons the shit.
Well, the Eldar now have a super deadly meatshield to point at such things.
To certain factions? Absolutely. To the Beast or Krork with enough steam behind them? I doubt it until they get a power up.
Doomed Wombat
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If one could defeat a Primarch with a infinite numbers of dudes the Nids, Imperium or Orks should have won ages ago.
The Eldar would probably need to deploy a high level aspect warrior wraith something and for the big ones maybe even a phoenix Warrior.
Well it's a good thing they're likely not going to let the Beast get up that steam.
Lexicanum says they were AIs.
That's the goal.
No ones tried it with Beast Orks or Krork before. Do remember that the Krork were made to fight Necrons and WIN.
Doomed Wombat
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So it does.
huh... wonder if that's taken from the...ohhhhh what's it called...
The Death of Integrity that's it...
Well if they are AI then... complications arise.
And the fact that there are no necrons anymore proves they were effective in this regard.
Wait no they weren't
.I am joking cause I know it was C'tan intervention that gibed the Krork, but still.
Still a force that can fight the Necrons deserves respect.