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The Long Night Part One: Embers in the Dusk: A Planetary Governor Quest (43k) Complete Sequel Up
- Thread starter Durin
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- Location
- Leeds
Seriously?And just in case anyone does get it. Yes, Dark just posted a joke. It isn't real. And yes, I did go back and check the sheet just because the sheer WTF? made me have to make sure...
... well... awesome admiral in the wrong fleet...
Maybe when we found a new colony we can send him over to them as the new void commander, and they can have a sneaky raider fleet...
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- Queensland, Australia
Seriously?
Yes, I had to. It was one of those situations where it's so unbelievable you just can't not believe it until you've checked twice. And even then you have to look back a third time just as you've decided 'Yes, it wasn't real. Yes it really wasn't" just so you can go "Okay, this is getting silly. I've checked and re-checked. IT'S STILL NOT REAL! Quit bugging me brain!"
Doomed Wombat
Let's go Darling!
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- Dancing on wires!
Or loan him to Muspelheim for their stealth fleet, or volunteer him to the Trust to run a raiding fleet.
I admit I had to do it too.
Shard
One and Many
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- Malaysia
Ehhh, it's a 'maybe' thing.
Would make plan-making rather more convenient, of course.
HanEmpire
Delicious
AMBUSH FRONTAL PLANETARY ASSAULT
Doomed Wombat
Let's go Darling!
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- Dancing on wires!
No need, because of our Death world status and our own incredibly entrenched spy network the only people who have a proper spy net are the Inquisition (and Jane still accidentally grabs inquisitorial agents occasionally) as most of their agents end up dying to spiders.
Avernites themselves are often too loyal to go against Rotbart as well.
Muspelheim probably has one though.
Evil M. Lurker
What Lurks at Midnight
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- The City, USA
Can Ridcully divine the relative degree of danger between building and not building the Azure Isles railways?
CyberNinja
Lost in blizzard, presumed eaten by Canadians
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- Maine
huh we get super stealth tech from tranth the same time we get a super stealth fleet admiral... Coincidsnce? I think not!
Conspiracy!?!?
Conspiracy!?!?
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Doomed Wombat
Let's go Darling!
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- Dancing on wires!
Given the nature of Avernus as well as the psycic power that appears as you go down, probably between Manageable and DOOM COMES FOR US ALL!
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- Somewhere
The two groups simply prove that we aren't a truly formidable force against spies of a certain human level. We can be infiltrated and not be able to do anything because we won't know we have been infiltrated. I don't want Dragon's Nest to gain our tech advantage without a solid Avernite spy network in their territory.
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- Brazil, Minas gerais
my worry about the railway are those cthulhu creatures that are alpha plus, they will be some what closer to the people that go to this way.
here some ideas to reduce the amount of carnage that will come.
so can we trade with our some what allies in the sea a map to where to build (and the direction)? use divination and demonology to find the more 'firm' places (as far of the warp as our planet allow)? even going all out and making 'safe house' in that route that are warded (just so we have some people survive to tell the tale and create new estrategies) and some of our elites there (especially the Psychic... if they are not 'tasty' for the alpha things)? can we send the mechanical cyborgs there (or anyone that is, lets say, 'less tasty' for the warp creatures) ? the cyborgs, we can somehow say that is a way to booster the defense to the island (because is exactly that) and that give the bonus to protect the 'holy land' where most of tech has come.
And with the bonus of killing lots and lots of traditionalist that as far as so warm and cozy in a planet far away from the avernus, even considering the traditionalist should protect and safe guard the tech (that what we get to mix traditionalist mech with politics^^)
here some ideas to reduce the amount of carnage that will come.
so can we trade with our some what allies in the sea a map to where to build (and the direction)? use divination and demonology to find the more 'firm' places (as far of the warp as our planet allow)? even going all out and making 'safe house' in that route that are warded (just so we have some people survive to tell the tale and create new estrategies) and some of our elites there (especially the Psychic... if they are not 'tasty' for the alpha things)? can we send the mechanical cyborgs there (or anyone that is, lets say, 'less tasty' for the warp creatures) ? the cyborgs, we can somehow say that is a way to booster the defense to the island (because is exactly that) and that give the bonus to protect the 'holy land' where most of tech has come.
And with the bonus of killing lots and lots of traditionalist that as far as so warm and cozy in a planet far away from the avernus, even considering the traditionalist should protect and safe guard the tech (that what we get to mix traditionalist mech with politics^^)
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- Leeds
But how do you know you looked in the right place, it would be too easy if it was just at the end of the traits list. That way anyone would be able to see if their window size was less than the length of the line.
I wouldn't expect it.
Doomed Wombat
Let's go Darling!
- Location
- Dancing on wires!
We have been "infiltrated" by the inquisition because we let them infiltrate us.
As stated before we routinly uncover their agents.
Muspelhiem MIGHT, have a spy net on Avernus even the Inquisition doesn't know if they have one (presumably if they do they use the light minute communicators putting their numbers down to a mere handful.)
Apart from that the only other sorta spy net was Tzeench in our navy, but that doesn't count because its Tzeench personally involved.
As for infiltration from outside agents, seeing as their current stratergy is to send "stealth" shuttles who will crash land somewhere on Avernus at us with people to mingle in I don't think we have a problem seeing as everything for about three light minutes around the Helhime system is covered in sensors, and if they did land they'd have to do it outside of a city which is certain death, BEFORE you remember that our entire populace have genetic dog tags.
As for Avernite spy net work that isn't our job, that's the Inquisition's job, we spy on our neighbours because it is practical to do so, not when they're almost a sector away.
Distance does not seem to be their trouble, seeing as when it first woke it casually snacked on 60 million of our civilians souls (IIRC)
We can ask the Sirens for help that's actually a good idea.
However
1. Tasty isn't likely to matter, as they're probably getting their souls nommed (why it goes for us I guess there are so many of us and we're sentient) if anything elite psykers would be more appealing.
2. Nice idea, but unfortunately the Conservatives are stubborn, not stupid. They can easily sniff that this is suicide duty, even if Storms end is located there they can just fly. Scott could assign large numbers of conservatives to work there, but that's a bit blatant.
Honestly I'm less worried about the Deep One, it seems content to nap snack and kick daemons in the dick. I'm more worried about pissing off some deep sea creature.
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- To the left. No, not there, the other left.
There's difference between being infiltrated by agents of either the Inquistion, to whom we give open access to our, well, everything (hell, one of our oldest and most trusted advisor is an Inquisitor Lord ffs) or Muspelheim, who are both closely allied to us and not really on "human" level both technologically or skill wise, compared to completely foreign polity with low-end Imperial tech level are like night and day.
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- Australia
Minimum psyker, it seems.
Factory ships are for helping to set up colonies and supplying long range fleet actions, not sitting in established systems as an extra factory that happens to be a ship.
At present setting up a colony involves shipping in all the equipment to build cities from the core world(s). A slow and vulnerable process. With factory ships we can jump start local production more quickly.
Too true. In a few decades we should see about doing with him what we did with Deacon Mark Aurilian; find him a project to micromanage while someone with more convenient inclinations runs the fleet at large.
There was a suggestion a while ago of sending light/fast fleets into enemy territory for commerce raiding and opportunistic shipyard sniping. Might be a good job for Sarnow.
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- Berkeley
This would be true if we didn't have a large transit fleet and insane economy multipliers. However, right now we'd need to build a fairly large fleet of slow, vulnerable, and expensive Goliath factory ships in order to make a difference. Quite frankly, I'd say that sending a similar amount in resource cost of the Mass Transit freighters loaded to the gills at the start of the colonization process would probably give the colony more resources for the first 20+ years with the added benefit of them not needing to hang around in a relatively vulnerable system.
Plus, for the colonization effort you're talking about, I'd say the forward operating base variant of the Ramilies could also cover for it.
HanEmpire
Delicious
This isn't necessarily true. We could reverse-engineer the component parts of the Goliath Factory ships and produce new, durable factory ship variants.
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- To the left. No, not there, the other left.
Did Durin ever stated the actual production capabilities of Goliath Factory Ship? Because I can't find it.
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- Berkeley
It was in the datasheets at some point. It was low enough that even when we got it from Atlas it wasn't anything approaching a game-changer for our economy though.