- Location
- Somewhere on Earth
Uh, if I recall correctly, anybody born with genetic defects are killed, mostly out of mercy more than anything else, eugenics have been going on for a while now.
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The Long Night Part One: Embers in the Dusk: A Planetary Governor Quest (43k) Complete Sequel Up
- Thread starter Durin
- Start date
Doomed Wombat
Let's go Darling!
- Location
- Dancing on wires!
Probably.
Depends what you mean.
Mutants are killed, but we don't have many of them as they're caused by pollution and even before we got all the STCs we had anti pollution STCs so natural mutant numbers are negligable. We most get chaos mutants so shoot them... and psykers. People with just defects is correctable however.
Don't have an arm, don't worry Biotics are included free of charge ect.
- Location
- Spain
There is also the fact that a double down here will affect the whole research.
Calling someone a liar and unable to read repeatedly is not needed.
Wrong. Factually wrong.
As has been stated time and time again we traded 'luxury goods' for basic information, including what creatures they like to eat. It cost us so little that Durin didn't even bother to record a cost.
We have never traded them animals.
This is rather like saying a pre-Rome British tribe could go hunt lions. Yes they technically have everything they need to travel to the heart of Africa and kill/eat lions. This doesn't change the fact that it would be a decade long expedition through multiple hostile territories and environments.
Can the Siren get any of the land animals we know about? Probably, but only with herculean effort and a horrific number of casualties.
In contrast we can deliver such exotic meals for fairly minor cost.
Either you are lying because you just don't want to do it or you have been having the same reading comprehension failure for months.
It would be nice to get something exportable from the bio-research. However I feel we have more urgent things to research. Someone suggested we study the Sphinxes, since we are talking to them about warp rifts anyway.
Glad that Abhuman equality has been coming along. Although this may screw us over in diplomacy with other 'human' polities.
…are the Phase Tigers (the unit) becoming the same type of Abhumans or something different?
- Location
- Leeds
If the Phase Tigers are becoming Abhumans then either they're dieing of old age and being replaced or Avernus is actively manipulating us and not just guiding evolution.
They're rather unlikely to crit on it, though, and unlike Ace armor I would say that Destroyer is important enough that we'd want Tranth able to add extra features.
- Location
- Spain
I would also use Tranth for the Ace Armor, I´m pretty sure getting a crit in the five armor models is worth of a trait, or a bonus when dealing with Astartes Tech.
And once we finish the all the Armor variants @Durin confirmed that Tranth will have the chance of examining and upgrading the Dreadnaughts.
Doomed Wombat
Let's go Darling!
- Location
- Dancing on wires!
I know, but I think that was what Haman was getting at.
I support Tranth doing it 100%
The Phase Tigers are indeed breeding to replenish their numbers.
Although it should be noted that none have yet died of old age and unless we run out of rejuve none are expected to for another four or five centuries.
Just as a reminder, I believe we only have ten of these (@Durin, could you confirm how many Super Exitus Rifles we have in stock? I can't find our stock of unstudied archeotech samples in the AdMech section.), we lose 1d6 in the attempt, and the chance of success is below zero even with a double down. If we're going to study these, we need to do it with a double down and Cheating.
This is how talking about the Master crafted Titans started:
Durin did not answer 3b so either it is negative as well or undecided as of yet.
Ok, here's my plan. I do still have to determine which cities will get the defence upgrades - I can't find the list for cities that haven't finished upgrading, but I remember someone posting it. Can someone point me to it?
[X] Plan Enjou T90
Munitorum
SLOT A - Year 1
-Y1: Recruit For Trust Guard
-Y4: Phase-Tiger Riders: Helguard Companies
SLOT B - Year 2
-Y2: Phase-Tiger Riders: Phase-Tigers
SLOT C - Year 3
-Y3: Thundabeast Riders : Planning
Void Command
SLOT A - Year 1
-Y1: Advice: Chapter Master Julius
-Y5: Build Advanced Orbital Defence Stations
--EXPEDITE YEAR 5
SLOT B - Year 3 (Construction Action)
-Y3: Construct: Cruisers and Escorts for Midgard
Administratum
SLOT A - Year 3
-Y3: Upgrade Defences: The Fair Isle
Diplomacy
SLOT A - Year 1:
-Y1: Build Embassy and Investigate: Byzantium
-Y3: Investigate Relationship (Vanaheim, Svartalfheim)
-Y4: Investigate Relationship (Vanaheim, Muspelheim)
-Y5: Investigate Relationship (Vanaheim, Byzantium)
SLOT B - Year 1:
-Y1: Investigate (Reputation of Avernus in the Trust)
-Y2: Investigate (Reputation of Rotbart in the Trust)
-Y3: Sound Out (Colonization Plans)
-- Check to see what the colonization plans for Garkill's former worlds are among your fellow Trust members, and if any are interesting in a possible joint colonization project with Avernus.
-- REPEAT UNTIL ALL WORLDS HAVE REPORTED IN.
-Y4-Y5: Diplomatic Relations (Go down list, repeating if failed: Byzantium, Svartalfheim)
Here I decided to go with a bunch of Investigations. Klovis-Ultan suggested that we check on our reputation in the Trust, both for our planet and our Governor, so I'm doing that. I'm also checking on Vanaheim's relationships with some other important players, particularly Svartalfheim (the other major conservative planet), Muspelheim (the other major progressive planet), and Byzantium (the newly founded Astartes Homeworld, which is likely to be a major player going forward).
I am also doing a combined Sound Out to see what the colonization plans for every other world is, and if any of them are interested in doing a joint colonization project with us. (I didn't see the need to turn that into separate actions)
Arbites:
SLOT A - Year 1
-Y1: Oakheart School of Swordsmanship
AdMech
SLOT A - Year 2 (Explorator)
-Y2: Advanced Astartes Power Armour: Destroyer
--DOUBLE DOWN YEAR 2
SLOT B - Year 2 (Biologis)
-Y2: Preliminary Examination (Beergrass)
-Y3: Bionics Part One: Investigation
--DOUBLE DOWN YEAR 3
SLOT C - Year 3 (Free)
-Y3: Expand and Upgrade: Dorthonion
Removed the Beergrass investigation from my draft proposal. EDIT - Nevermind. Added it back. The entire reason I had something in that slot was to get the Double Down timing right.
Ministorum
SLOT A - Year 1
-Y1-Y5: The Search
-- IF NAVY IS FULLY CLEARED BEFORE THE TURN IS OVER, THEN SWITCH TO Those in the Shadows
SLOT B - Year 1
-Y1-Y5: The Search
-- IF NAVY IS FULLY CLEARED BEFORE THE TURN IS OVER, THEN SWITCH TO Those in the Shadows
Added a caveat to switch to Those in the Shadows if
Astra Telepathica
SLOT A - Year 1 (Ridcully)
-Y1: Research: Neo-Astropathic Receiver Choirs
-- REPEAT IF FAILED
-- DOUBLE DOWN YEAR 1
-Y4: Research: Destructive Frequencies
-- DOUBLE DOWN YEAR 4
SLOT B - Year 3 (Xavier)
-Y3: Advanced Wards: Fólkvangr
-- EXPEDITE YEAR 3
SLOT C - Year 1 (Tamia)
-Y1: Research: Neo-Astropathic Receiver Choirs
-- REPEAT IF FAILED
-Y4: Research: Destructive Frequencies
I'm sticking with doing both the Choir and Destructive Frequencies. These are both actions that require coordination from Ridcully and Tamia, and trying to coordinate them is a pain sometimes, but things line up nicely here. A number of players have also wanted to get Destructive Frequencies done, and this is a chance to do it.
Personal
SLOT A - Year 1
-Y1: Personal Attention: Expand Phase-Tiger Enclosures
--EXPEDITE YEAR 1
-Y5: Readiness Training: Fleet
SLOT B - Year 1
-Y5: Spend Time With (Chapter Master Julius)
-Y2: Promotion (Marshal)
-Y3: Chain of Command
-Y4: A New Admiral
-Y5: Spend Time With (Chapter Master Julius)
SLOT C - Year 4
-Y4: Thaddeus Expertise: Upgrade Defences: Gormec, Lonely Citadel, Lemnos, Arbor
[X] Plan Enjou T90
Munitorum
SLOT A - Year 1
-Y1: Recruit For Trust Guard
-Y4: Phase-Tiger Riders: Helguard Companies
SLOT B - Year 2
-Y2: Phase-Tiger Riders: Phase-Tigers
SLOT C - Year 3
-Y3: Thundabeast Riders : Planning
Void Command
SLOT A - Year 1
-Y1: Advice: Chapter Master Julius
-Y5: Build Advanced Orbital Defence Stations
--EXPEDITE YEAR 5
SLOT B - Year 3 (Construction Action)
-Y3: Construct: Cruisers and Escorts for Midgard
Administratum
SLOT A - Year 3
-Y3: Upgrade Defences: The Fair Isle
Diplomacy
SLOT A - Year 1:
-Y1: Build Embassy and Investigate: Byzantium
-Y3: Investigate Relationship (Vanaheim, Svartalfheim)
-Y4: Investigate Relationship (Vanaheim, Muspelheim)
-Y5: Investigate Relationship (Vanaheim, Byzantium)
SLOT B - Year 1:
-Y1: Investigate (Reputation of Avernus in the Trust)
-Y2: Investigate (Reputation of Rotbart in the Trust)
-Y3: Sound Out (Colonization Plans)
-- Check to see what the colonization plans for Garkill's former worlds are among your fellow Trust members, and if any are interesting in a possible joint colonization project with Avernus.
-- REPEAT UNTIL ALL WORLDS HAVE REPORTED IN.
-Y4-Y5: Diplomatic Relations (Go down list, repeating if failed: Byzantium, Svartalfheim)
Here I decided to go with a bunch of Investigations. Klovis-Ultan suggested that we check on our reputation in the Trust, both for our planet and our Governor, so I'm doing that. I'm also checking on Vanaheim's relationships with some other important players, particularly Svartalfheim (the other major conservative planet), Muspelheim (the other major progressive planet), and Byzantium (the newly founded Astartes Homeworld, which is likely to be a major player going forward).
I am also doing a combined Sound Out to see what the colonization plans for every other world is, and if any of them are interested in doing a joint colonization project with us. (I didn't see the need to turn that into separate actions)
Arbites:
SLOT A - Year 1
-Y1: Oakheart School of Swordsmanship
AdMech
SLOT A - Year 2 (Explorator)
-Y2: Advanced Astartes Power Armour: Destroyer
--DOUBLE DOWN YEAR 2
SLOT B - Year 2 (Biologis)
-Y2: Preliminary Examination (Beergrass)
-Y3: Bionics Part One: Investigation
--DOUBLE DOWN YEAR 3
SLOT C - Year 3 (Free)
-Y3: Expand and Upgrade: Dorthonion
Removed the Beergrass investigation from my draft proposal. EDIT - Nevermind. Added it back. The entire reason I had something in that slot was to get the Double Down timing right.
Ministorum
SLOT A - Year 1
-Y1-Y5: The Search
-- IF NAVY IS FULLY CLEARED BEFORE THE TURN IS OVER, THEN SWITCH TO Those in the Shadows
SLOT B - Year 1
-Y1-Y5: The Search
-- IF NAVY IS FULLY CLEARED BEFORE THE TURN IS OVER, THEN SWITCH TO Those in the Shadows
Added a caveat to switch to Those in the Shadows if
Astra Telepathica
SLOT A - Year 1 (Ridcully)
-Y1: Research: Neo-Astropathic Receiver Choirs
-- REPEAT IF FAILED
-- DOUBLE DOWN YEAR 1
-Y4: Research: Destructive Frequencies
-- DOUBLE DOWN YEAR 4
SLOT B - Year 3 (Xavier)
-Y3: Advanced Wards: Fólkvangr
-- EXPEDITE YEAR 3
SLOT C - Year 1 (Tamia)
-Y1: Research: Neo-Astropathic Receiver Choirs
-- REPEAT IF FAILED
-Y4: Research: Destructive Frequencies
I'm sticking with doing both the Choir and Destructive Frequencies. These are both actions that require coordination from Ridcully and Tamia, and trying to coordinate them is a pain sometimes, but things line up nicely here. A number of players have also wanted to get Destructive Frequencies done, and this is a chance to do it.
Personal
SLOT A - Year 1
-Y1: Personal Attention: Expand Phase-Tiger Enclosures
--EXPEDITE YEAR 1
-Y5: Readiness Training: Fleet
SLOT B - Year 1
-Y5: Spend Time With (Chapter Master Julius)
-Y2: Promotion (Marshal)
-Y3: Chain of Command
-Y4: A New Admiral
-Y5: Spend Time With (Chapter Master Julius)
SLOT C - Year 4
-Y4: Thaddeus Expertise: Upgrade Defences: Gormec, Lonely Citadel, Lemnos, Arbor
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- Location
- Northern Ireland, UK
[X] Plan Enjou T90
If we are going to vote for our new Marshal, my vote goes to Marshal Samanta Khol 'The Ice Queen".
If we are going to vote for our new Marshal, my vote goes to Marshal Samanta Khol 'The Ice Queen".
10ebbor10
DON'T PANIC
- Location
- Present
We have 79.
It's in the Adeptus Mechanics Sheet, under Explorator, Under STC's, 6'th page, under weapons, on the 10'th line.
Really think we need to investigate the psyker eating warp rifts. If you have a better idea than asking the Sphinxes then by all means but this isn't something we should leave to fester.
Not sure about this. Getting the fleet back together after the purge is important but there is some chance that the purge will still be ongoing when this occurs.
Perhaps spend time with the new admiral instead?
[X] Plan Enjou with Knight Titans T90
Enjous Plan. I replaced one Investigate actions for an additional Sound out regarding the possibility of knight titan foundry.
Munitorum
SLOT A - Year 1
-Y1: Recruit For Trust Guard
-Y4: Phase-Tiger Riders: Helguard Companies
SLOT B - Year 2
-Y2: Phase-Tiger Riders: Phase-Tigers
SLOT C - Year 3
-Y3: Thundabeast Riders : Planning
Void Command
SLOT A - Year 1
-Y1: Advice: Chapter Master Julius
-Y5: Build Advanced Heavy Orbital Weapons Platforms
--EXPEDITE YEAR 5
SLOT B - Year 3 (Construction Action)
-Y3: Construct: Cruisers and Escorts for Midgard
Administratum
SLOT A - Year 3
-Y3: Upgrade Defences: Small Hive
Diplomacy
SLOT A - Year 1:
-Y1: Build Embassy and Investigate: Byzantium
-Y3: Investigate Relationship (Vanaheim, Svartalfheim)
-Y4: Investigate Relationship (Vanaheim, Muspelheim)
-Y5: Investigate Relationship (Vanaheim, Byzantium)
SLOT B - Year 1:
-Y1: Sound Out (Knight Titan Foundry)
-Y2: IF NOT ALL REACHED Sound Out (Knight Titan Foundry) ELSE Investigate (Reputation of Rotbart in the Trust)
-Y3: Sound Out (Colonization Plans)
-- Check to see what the colonization plans for Garkill's former worlds are among your fellow Trust members, and if any are interesting in a possible joint colonization project with Avernus.
-- REPEAT UNTIL ALL WORLDS HAVE REPORTED IN.
-Y4-Y5: Diplomatic Relations (Go down list, repeating if failed: Byzantium, Svartalfheim)
Removed one/two Investigate actions for an additional Sound out.
Arbites:
SLOT A - Year 1
-Y1: Oakheart School of Swordsmanship
AdMech
SLOT A - Year 2 (Explorator)
-Y2: Advanced Astartes Power Armour: Destroyer
--DOUBLE DOWN YEAR 2
SLOT B - Year 2 (Biologis)
-Y2: Preliminary Examination (Beergrass)
-Y3: Bionics Part One: Investigation
--DOUBLE DOWN YEAR 3
SLOT C - Year 3 (Free)
-Y3: Expand and Upgrade: Dorthonion
@Enjou
Added the Beergrass investigation again to fill the year gap to use the double down of year 3.
Ministorum
SLOT A - Year 1
-Y1-Y5: The Search
-- IF NAVY IS FULLY CLEARED BEFORE THE TURN IS OVER, THEN SWITCH TO Those in the Shadows
SLOT B - Year 1
-Y1-Y5: The Search
-- IF NAVY IS FULLY CLEARED BEFORE THE TURN IS OVER, THEN SWITCH TO Those in the Shadows
Astra Telepathica
SLOT A - Year 1 (Ridcully)
-Y1: Research: Neo-Astropathic Receiver Choirs
-- REPEAT IF FAILED
-- DOUBLE DOWN YEAR 1
-Y4: Research: Destructive Frequencies
-- DOUBLE DOWN YEAR 4
SLOT B - Year 3 (Xavier)
-Y3: Advanced Wards: Fólkvangr
SLOT C - Year 1 (Tamia)
-Y1: Research: Neo-Astropathic Receiver Choirs
-- REPEAT IF FAILED
-Y4: Research: Destructive Frequencies
Personal
SLOT A - Year 1
-Y1: Personal Attention: Expand Phase-Tiger Enclosures
--EXPEDITE YEAR 1
-Y5: Readiness Training: Fleet
SLOT B - Year 1
-Y1: Promotion (Marshal)
-Y2: Chain of Command
-Y3: A New Admiral
-Y4: Spend Time With (Chapter Master Julius)
-Y5: Spend Time With (Chapter Master Julius)
SLOT C - Year 4
-Y4: Thaddeus Expertise: Upgrade Defences: <four cities>
Enjous Plan. I replaced one Investigate actions for an additional Sound out regarding the possibility of knight titan foundry.
Munitorum
SLOT A - Year 1
-Y1: Recruit For Trust Guard
-Y4: Phase-Tiger Riders: Helguard Companies
SLOT B - Year 2
-Y2: Phase-Tiger Riders: Phase-Tigers
SLOT C - Year 3
-Y3: Thundabeast Riders : Planning
Void Command
SLOT A - Year 1
-Y1: Advice: Chapter Master Julius
-Y5: Build Advanced Heavy Orbital Weapons Platforms
--EXPEDITE YEAR 5
SLOT B - Year 3 (Construction Action)
-Y3: Construct: Cruisers and Escorts for Midgard
Administratum
SLOT A - Year 3
-Y3: Upgrade Defences: Small Hive
Diplomacy
SLOT A - Year 1:
-Y1: Build Embassy and Investigate: Byzantium
-Y3: Investigate Relationship (Vanaheim, Svartalfheim)
-Y4: Investigate Relationship (Vanaheim, Muspelheim)
-Y5: Investigate Relationship (Vanaheim, Byzantium)
SLOT B - Year 1:
-Y1: Sound Out (Knight Titan Foundry)
To relaiably provide Asgard with Knight-Titans Avernus plans to build a foundry/factory/workshop focussed on these. Given how complex any sort of titans are and that a goal of a specialiced facility is the creation of master crafted works any insight given into the topic even if its only remotely connected is apreciated. Concerns and advise equally.
Avernus respects Svartalfheim's senjority in matters of artisans and will not pursue the idea further should the such a facility be in conflict with the guilds.
It is planed to serve as the primary maintainance facility for Knights in system as well so advise for practical and correct maintainance and repair of them will help greatly as well.
Avernus respects Svartalfheim's senjority in matters of artisans and will not pursue the idea further should the such a facility be in conflict with the guilds.
It is planed to serve as the primary maintainance facility for Knights in system as well so advise for practical and correct maintainance and repair of them will help greatly as well.
-Y3: Sound Out (Colonization Plans)
-- Check to see what the colonization plans for Garkill's former worlds are among your fellow Trust members, and if any are interesting in a possible joint colonization project with Avernus.
-- REPEAT UNTIL ALL WORLDS HAVE REPORTED IN.
-Y4-Y5: Diplomatic Relations (Go down list, repeating if failed: Byzantium, Svartalfheim)
Removed one/two Investigate actions for an additional Sound out.
Arbites:
SLOT A - Year 1
-Y1: Oakheart School of Swordsmanship
AdMech
SLOT A - Year 2 (Explorator)
-Y2: Advanced Astartes Power Armour: Destroyer
--DOUBLE DOWN YEAR 2
SLOT B - Year 2 (Biologis)
-Y2: Preliminary Examination (Beergrass)
-Y3: Bionics Part One: Investigation
--DOUBLE DOWN YEAR 3
SLOT C - Year 3 (Free)
-Y3: Expand and Upgrade: Dorthonion
@Enjou
Added the Beergrass investigation again to fill the year gap to use the double down of year 3.
Ministorum
SLOT A - Year 1
-Y1-Y5: The Search
-- IF NAVY IS FULLY CLEARED BEFORE THE TURN IS OVER, THEN SWITCH TO Those in the Shadows
SLOT B - Year 1
-Y1-Y5: The Search
-- IF NAVY IS FULLY CLEARED BEFORE THE TURN IS OVER, THEN SWITCH TO Those in the Shadows
Astra Telepathica
SLOT A - Year 1 (Ridcully)
-Y1: Research: Neo-Astropathic Receiver Choirs
-- REPEAT IF FAILED
-- DOUBLE DOWN YEAR 1
-Y4: Research: Destructive Frequencies
-- DOUBLE DOWN YEAR 4
SLOT B - Year 3 (Xavier)
-Y3: Advanced Wards: Fólkvangr
SLOT C - Year 1 (Tamia)
-Y1: Research: Neo-Astropathic Receiver Choirs
-- REPEAT IF FAILED
-Y4: Research: Destructive Frequencies
Personal
SLOT A - Year 1
-Y1: Personal Attention: Expand Phase-Tiger Enclosures
--EXPEDITE YEAR 1
-Y5: Readiness Training: Fleet
SLOT B - Year 1
-Y1: Promotion (Marshal)
-Y2: Chain of Command
-Y3: A New Admiral
-Y4: Spend Time With (Chapter Master Julius)
-Y5: Spend Time With (Chapter Master Julius)
SLOT C - Year 4
-Y4: Thaddeus Expertise: Upgrade Defences: <four cities>
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I could have Ridcully do some divination on it. IIRC that was supposed to be an option, and is probably better than asking the Sphinx when we haven't even investigated whether Diplomacy with them is possible or not. Anyone have any objections to that?
I could do something else. I mainly had it there because I needed to add something and Elder Haman had it there, so I figured 'why not?'
Derp. Now I remember why I included that - I needed something to fill that slot for the double down. I'm gonna re-add.
According to Durin after the latest Astares Armor finishes, the Collegia will have the ability to complete the rest on their own.
We already did the Basic Survey on Illusionary Pines, so we need to finish that off before switching to complete examinations.
- Location
- The Void
[X] Plan Enjou T90
Generally Ridcully's actions are in very high demand, while diplomacy is mostly incremental grinding. Plus divination of Avernus's warp aspect has been unreliable.
I think I recall Durin saying we could diplomance the Sphinxes but not sure where. Easy fix.
@Durin
1 Can we use diplomacy to ask the Sphinxes about the warp rifts that chaos psykers are being pulled through?
2 Would any of our advisors or fellow governors object to this?
3 Does Ridcully think he could divine where the psykers are being taken?
Nianque
Verified Dragon
Could we please divine attacks? We haven't done that in a bit.
- Location
- United states
Actually reading the thread people seem to only have a problem trading human souls. Durin also mentioned that we may be able to trade exotic animals and a lot of people suggested that over human souls and Durin said the Trust wouldn't even care.
Doomed Wombat
Let's go Darling!
- Location
- Dancing on wires!