The Long Night Part One: Embers in the Dusk: A Planetary Governor Quest (43k) Complete Sequel Up

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Our conquest of garkills are gonna free up a million serf, billion guard and 1k space marines that they can throw against either valinor or the other two ork realms for dragons nest so that should be a pretty good opening for relations.

I guess the hope is that dragons nest has a lesser forge world or something like that and that they have access thanks to that to highest level forges cause otherwise only source of the last upgrades are gonna be in atlas and thats only if they didnt go insane and 500ly wont be fun to do with current travel tech. And durin only commented on the "general" tech level and maybe their mech world just doesnt want to share and thats to blame abit on that or they didnt have great stc library to maintain a whole sector without help for example?

And to make clear my thought for stc giveways would be basic tech ones and very very few of weapon ones even if we wont besties it will help if they are better equipped and abit more productive. Maybe a variant or two of the impaler if things go well for the most part for a firepower upgrade here or if they lack a basic imperial stc for firepower wise then maybe those aswell or a rarer variant of a russ or something or a generic baneblade and stuff like that?

We can explain that we have this extensive of stc library cause we robbed atlas blind thanks to a very valuable stc find to explain away the reason why we have this good of a tech base for example and straight out stc-s just before the collapse wich is actually the truth for the most part aswell if they have questions?

And if we wanna impress we can just throw some land raiders as a gift + say we can sell u as many as u want if ur rich enough if u want for example is a pretty cool strategy to impress the space marine part of things. (we have found several hundred of them in ships we found btw so it is basicly a on "paper" gift) . Random thought , we could afford to give our space marines a land raider per squad if they wanted it pretty easily especially if they are willing to pay the upkeep rofl.

And if they are interested and can afford it we may sell them power armor for chapter serfs maybe if things go very well relations wise is a another thing to consider what we would have available and give their elites extra punch(and just sell not give the stc for them)

and a general question to everyone and @Durin

1) Whats our escort and capital ship numbers for both overall and for avernus and maybe the deployable ones only so a generic idea thanks to the region estimates to know in the future?
 
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1.How many years has it been since the blood dragons seen our marine.
2. Do our marine know any high ranking blood dragon that they think are still alive.
1. a bit of eighty for your Marines, unknown for the Blood Dragons
2. unknown, it has probably been something like three hundred years for the Blood Dragons so most of the Marines that were high ranking then would now be dead
 
I've just noticed, but even the other Ork domain don't have a lot of forces to send against Garkill (ex)domain, everyone is tied up in a fight against Dragon nest and, to a lesser extent, each other.
 
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1. a bit of eighty for your Marines, unknown for the Blood Dragons
2. unknown, it has probably been something like three hundred years for the Blood Dragons so most of the Marines that were high ranking then would now be dead
Still, I'd imagine their Champion or Chapter Master might still be alive. They're descended from the Blood Angels after all.
 
During the Great Crusade, Land Raiders were used by both Astartes and Imperial Army forces. However, during the Heresy, the Astartes Legions found themselves needing every Land Raider they could get for survivable battlefield transport and firepower. Given that the Legions were at the forefront of most of the fighting, the Emperor enacted an order making the Land Raider Astartes-only. It was intended to be temporary, but with how the confrontation with Horus ended, He never had the opportunity to rescind the order.
If I remember right, the Emperor only enacted that order when the Forge World that had been the primary Land Raider production plant(it had been a Forge World dedicated entirely to Land Raider production) got destroyed during the Heresy, thus causing a severe Land Raider shortage.
 
That was just a stupid oversight on the Emperor's part. If he'd just given Space Marines priority for Land Raiders rather than monopoly, it wouldn't have deprived the Munitorum of such a fine vehicle.
 
That was just a stupid oversight on the Emperor's part. If he'd just given Space Marines priority for Land Raiders rather than monopoly, it wouldn't have deprived the Munitorum of such a fine vehicle.
It was an emergency order during the Heresy after the primary Land Raider manufacturing Forge World got destroyed. Obviously it was supposed to just be a temporary order for the duration of the war but then the Emperor got interred of the Golden Throne and no one after wanted to resend an order made by the Emperor himself, even if the main reason for that order didn't exist anymore.
 
guess the hope is that dragons nest has a lesser forge world or something like that and that they have access thanks to that to highest level forges cause otherwise only source of the last upgrades are gonna be in atlas and thats only if they didnt go insane and 500ly wont be fun to do with current travel tech. And durin only commented on the "general" tech level and maybe their mech world just doesnt want to share and thats to blame abit on that or they didnt have great stc library to maintain a whole sector without help for example?

The closest Forge World is Atlas, its unlikely that they do have a Mechanicus world. The best they likely have are Mechanicus enclaves on their civilized and fortress worlds.

1) Whats our escort and capital ship numbers for both overall and for avernus and maybe the deployable ones only so a generic idea thanks to the region estimates to know in the future?

Umm, this information has already been posted man.

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Security Council Meeting Part One: Setting the Stage

... Aren't there some SMs trudging about since the Crusade, by M41?

I thought there was a "untouched by age" part on the SM description.

Yeah sure, Interred in Dreadnoughts.
 
Isn't the leader of Blood Angels like 1 thousands years old or something? Dante I believe?
 
Those tend to be Chaos worshippers, time-travellers, or folks who were stuck in stasis one way or another.

EDIT: And Dreadnoughts, right.
Looks like it is flatout stated that SMs only die if they are killed in Horus Rising.

I mean, there was that Salamander who sat still for ten thousand years and was still alive.

Blood Angels are noted for looking fabulous even as they age. Because they are SpaceVampires.
 
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Yep and Julius and Horatius are both well into their 2nd millennium of life. (1193 and 1407 respectively)

The reason why there are so very few loyal Space Marines left from the Crusade is due to their constant battles more than anything age related.
That seems to be it.

You know, I think the Imperium might have done a lot better if they had those ancient SMs study up and practice command roles, but atop mortal armies. They'd probably have a lot more multi-millenia old SMs around, and hyper-smart generals with hundreds of years of experience leading that one army.

Unfortunately, UNTO THE BREECH is standard SM use. Which is sadly as needed as it is wasteful.
 
Looks like it is flatout stated that SMs only die if they are killed in Horus Rising.

I mean, there was that Salamander who sat still for ten thousand years and was still alive.

Blood Angels are noted for looking fabulous even as they age. Because they are SpaceVampires.
Conflicting canon is par for the course in 40k. Though yes I forgot about that Salamander. You mean the one in that crashed Crusade-era colony ship that spawned an underground society, right?
 
Again were forgetting Dante of the Blood Angels. He os as old as his personal list of achievements is long. In fact, so old is he that the Inquisition suspects something.

Actually they always suspect something but Blood Angels are Founding chapter an so are awarded certain privoages.

Still point is hes old as fuck and still kicking. Maybe its all that Blood he drinks?
 
We probably don't want any of their geneseed. Theirs is from a different primarch, so not of that much use to us.
Geneseed is a very complex research: having a few different variants will surely help to understand what's common and what's specific about GK's seed.
the could pay us with one or two of those additional cruisers per year for a certain number of years.
Problem is we don't really need imperial era ships.
 
Those high level forges are pretty important for a DAOT tech spam. Without them Imperial-Era tech is still fairly viable, especially for militia.

Militia with DOAT tech. Mhm..
 
Those high level forges are pretty important for a DAOT tech spam. Without them Imperial-Era tech is still fairly viable, especially for militia.

Militia with DOAT tech. Mhm..

Too expensive. I think the reason we have the militia running with Imperial tech is due to cost and production time.

That said our militia is the equal of a U.S Green Beret soooo yeah. Not sure why I was afraid of the Orks taking that one city.
 
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