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The Long Night Part One: Embers in the Dusk: A Planetary Governor Quest (43k) Complete Sequel Up
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Doomed Wombat
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I smell the smell of burning orks.
1. Ridcully can use biomancy I believe, though obviously not his speciality, and so what's his predicted life span?
2. Is the telekinetic choire strong enough to move roks angles, not move the rok itself, just change the angle at which it is falling
3. Can pyromancers enhance heat within the roks?
4. How accurately can Ridcully scan Garkill from this distance? I see no reason he would not be able to at this distance with his Paragon trait?
5. We have tested the LEF missiles outside of the Everglades right?
6. And as we should have does the LEF die? Cause it'd be bad to introduce it into adria... probably would die due to being a fungus, but just checking
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- Alice Springs, Australia
1. with rejuve you will not be surprised if he lives to 1,000I smell the smell of burning orks.
1. Ridcully can use biomancy I believe so what's his predicted life span?
2. Is the telekinetic choire strong enough to move roks angles, not move the rok itself, just change the angle at which it is falling
3. Can pyromancers enhance heat within the roks?
4. How accurately can Ridcully scan Garkill from this distance? I see no reason he would not be able to at this distance with his Paragon trait?
5. We have tested the LEF missiles outside of the Everglades right?
6. And as we should have does the LEF die? Cause it'd be bad to introduce it into adria... probably would die due to being a fungus, but just checking
2. yes, though not by much, however it can prove a bonus to other attempts to defect the Roks
3. yes
4. very, that is one of the reasons you have as much information about this attack as you do
5. yes, you have found that the Fungus is eliminated within a few weeks
6. see above
Doomed Wombat
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1. Is he and his guard wearing sealed armor?
2. How big is his guard?
3. Even if he is in sealed armor do we think we can pull back our people from around his crash site and hit him with a LEF missile to either clear out the path to him and get rid of the canon fodder, or maybe even injure/kill him?
4. Have we studied how the fungus was eliminated or does it just happen?
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- Location
- Alice Springs, Australia
1. yes
2. 100,000 Meganobs
3. he is aiming for a location out of your city, hitting him with the LEF missiles would probebly kill some of his gaurd and injure him
4. it just happens
HanEmpire
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@Durin just an FYI, the Index link to the newest Omake "Burn Baby Burn" links to a Reply to Thread page, not the actual post.
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Doomed Wombat
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- Dancing on wires!
1. How many? I think we have only 50? 100? Something like that?
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- Alice Springs, Australia
you ahve 200
Doomed Wombat
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Never mind then.
1. How many missiles would it take to get
This result?
I saw the plural.
Would using regular Deathstrikes and then following up with LEF missiles be an effective tactic? I imagine Garkill would be riding in his big Mega Gargant, and cracking it open with regular stuff to allow in the LEF might enhance the effectiveness of the latter.
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- Alice Springs, Australia
1. that was 100
yes, though it will take quite a few hits to crack open his Mega Gargent
yes but it would take a lot of hits to have an effect, they would be more useful saving them for the mass of Gargents you will soon be getting
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- madison
so random rok busting omake idea spitballing, ie would any of these actually work/ I'm too lazy to use more than 1 or 2 of thease.
psyker omakes
a choir using foresight guided sapping to use entropic field to drop one of the roks into a massive sinkhole,
telekinetic move a random unexploded mine into the path of a descending rok deflecting it,
demonologist choir creates a large portal for a second in it's path and core it out via telfraging
pyrokinetic is used to touch off the fulei in a random engine, either sending the rock off course during the decent, or causing an alrday landed rock to go tumbling over the landscape.
non pskyer omakes
macro cannon crew messes with gun settings, trading power for rate of fire to cover a predicted landing site in unexploded shells, giggle.
brave/suicidal pilots fly drop ship under the void shield of a descending rok, use charges to divert it's corse. either via stealing deathstrike warhead from a factory, or setting off secondary explosions.
use of servo skull carried paper targets to induce bombardment cacti fire against roks.
tech prist madly scrambles to jury rig a stupidly powerful magnetic field generator to pull a descending rok of course, gets it into position by either firing it out of an equally hastily modified macro shell, or using a cargo flyer. may have to manually operate the device, fully excepting not to survive.
massive cargo hauler filed it's hold with explosives, and with strategically reinforced hull is turned into a crude shaped charge to knock a rock of course.
psyker omakes
a choir using foresight guided sapping to use entropic field to drop one of the roks into a massive sinkhole,
telekinetic move a random unexploded mine into the path of a descending rok deflecting it,
demonologist choir creates a large portal for a second in it's path and core it out via telfraging
pyrokinetic is used to touch off the fulei in a random engine, either sending the rock off course during the decent, or causing an alrday landed rock to go tumbling over the landscape.
non pskyer omakes
macro cannon crew messes with gun settings, trading power for rate of fire to cover a predicted landing site in unexploded shells, giggle.
brave/suicidal pilots fly drop ship under the void shield of a descending rok, use charges to divert it's corse. either via stealing deathstrike warhead from a factory, or setting off secondary explosions.
use of servo skull carried paper targets to induce bombardment cacti fire against roks.
tech prist madly scrambles to jury rig a stupidly powerful magnetic field generator to pull a descending rok of course, gets it into position by either firing it out of an equally hastily modified macro shell, or using a cargo flyer. may have to manually operate the device, fully excepting not to survive.
massive cargo hauler filed it's hold with explosives, and with strategically reinforced hull is turned into a crude shaped charge to knock a rock of course.
Doomed Wombat
Let's go Darling!
- Location
- Dancing on wires!
So to hurt him and kill a portion of his guard we'd need to use half of our LEF missiles.
Yikes.
Who cares its a mega gargant we need to crack that anyway.
1. Are they on the Roks or is he teleporting em down?
2. With tactical genius and other things can we get Fred's opinion on what the best uses of our choires would be, obviously Biomancers are kinda useless and Illusionists and daemonologists are redundant until the orks are off the roks, but Pyro, diviners, telekinetics are still viable?
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- Alice Springs, Australia
these could work
pyrokinetic is used to touch off the fulei in a random engine, either sending the rock off course during the decent, or causing an alrday landed rock to go tumbling over the landscape.
macro cannon crew messes with gun settings, trading power for rate of fire to cover a predicted landing site in unexploded shells, giggle.
massive cargo hauler filed it's hold with explosives, and with strategically reinforced hull is turned into a crude shaped charge to knock a rock of course.
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- Alice Springs, Australia
1. probably a mix of both
2. that is why I am answering questions, to begin with I should make it clear that dealing with the wierdboyz is 1st priority and that deflecting or taking down the incoming Roks is 2nd. compared to those 2 everything else is unimportant
also Deamonologists can boost other psykers actions for an increase in miscast chance, it might be worthwhile to do that or to have them telaport in Psykers from distant locations
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- madison
cool, thanks. now the age old question, noble and somber sacrifice, or zany antics. decisions decisions.
Doomed Wombat
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- Dancing on wires!
Unfortunately the entropic field works on metal only I think and can't be used long distance.
Funny though.
Already asked and unless we can get a split second portal we'd have a daemon incursion coming out the other end.
Good idea.
Suicide and no ones dumb enough to steal a death strike charge.
Does have a "HELLO BOYS" vibe to it though
.Already asked none big enough in the area.
Funny, but impractical.
1. Xavier is even stronger when linked to a choir thanks to destruction incarnate how hard would it be to just make a rok go boom?
2. These are melta shells right? Could they serve as impromptu mines?
3. Instead of turning off a Macro canon could we instead haul shells all around in the time we have instead?
4. How much time do we have until impact?
5. If we decide to do so could we have diviners help with the placement?
6. How many would be needed to get this effect assuming we don't need to worry about explosives?
7. They don't need a piolet do they?
8. Will the roks have a fighta boma screen? Wait what am I saying of course they will, but need to check.
9. How many of these could we afford to send before we hurt our ability to move people?
10. Are there any particular clusters of weird boyz that Ridcully can see or is Garkill spreading them out?
11. Do we have any waste plasma reactors lying around?
Why choose, do both.
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Hmm... I was not aware that there was this level of risk in moving units using the daemonology choir. That would have changed my plans. 10% losses is rather high.
Well... I was not expecting that. That's a nice surprise.
Might have distributed Aesir a bit differently if I had expected that, but okay.
Hmm... the Roks are more effective than I had hoped. We ought to send more forces into Beirut.
Well... the good news is we succeeded in our main objective.
The bad news is we succeeded in our main objective.
@Durin
1: Are the railways to Beirut still open?
2: 10 million soldiers is a bit hard to translate into needed unit. How many regiments can we move into Salem in the time remaining to us? Do Heavy units and Aesir take up more space? If so how much more space?
3: How many deathstrike batteries are left? From my reading of the battle report we have not launched that plan strike against the Elysium 1 army, nor the second wave against the Aridia 1 army, is that correct? My rough count is 96.93 deathstrike batteries, is that right? I'm assuming that if we have not taken those actions yet, we can give them different targets now based on the new information.
4: Has the railway to Elysium been cut? Or can we still move forces back from Malea? (Asking because even if they are too far away to reach Salem, it would be useful to move some more to Casarrondo, allowing the reserve in DIs to be deployed to Salem).
Actually Grandmaster Aria, a daemonology choir, and a large assortment of psyker teams is located in Beirut.
Along with Jane and her psyker hunters.
Beirut is a major city.
Note that we cannot evacuate the citizens, nor can we evacuate the majority of our forces. We are pretty much already committed to fighting at Salem.
Question... why would Jane be better at fighting the wierdboyz than others? Also, Jane is already committed to the Beirut battle, so I think it would be a mistake to try and pull her out of that.
Note that Surt has already been deployed to Salem in preparation for Garkill appearing there.
I'm guessing that they are included among the "Heavy" regiments in which case 40% are located in Salem.
Why do people talk as if letting one of our cities fall to the Orks is no big deal? And why do people talk as if it is assumed we are going to lose one?
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- Alice Springs, Australia
1. not that hard, he would ahve a greater effect blowing the engines of several Roks howeverUnfortunately the entropic field works on metal only I think and can't be used long distance.
Funny though.
Already asked and unless we can get a split second portal we'd have a daemon incursion coming out the other end.
Good idea.
Suicide and no ones dumb enough to steal a death strike charge.
Does have a "HELLO BOYS" vibe to it though
Already asked none big enough in the area.
Funny, but impractical.
1. Xavier is even stronger when linked to a choir thanks to destruction incarnate how hard would it be to just make a rok go boom?
2. These are melta shells right? Could they serve as impromptu mines?
3. Instead of turning off a Macro canon could we instead haul shells all around in the time we have instead?
4. How much time do we have until impact?
5. If we decide to do so could we have diviners help with the placement?
6. How many would be needed to get this effect assuming we don't need to worry about explosives?
7. They don't need a piolet do they?
8. Will the roks have a fighta boma screen? Wait what am I saying of course they will, but need to check.
9. How many of these could we afford to send before we hurt our ability to move people?
10. Are there any particular clusters of weird boyz that Ridcully can see or is Garkill spreading them out?
11. Do we have any waste plasma reactors lying around?
Why choose, do both.
2. yes but they would not cause a massive amount of damage to a Rok when used as a mine, especially as given all of the factors involved even a diviner would have trouble determining where the Roks will land
3. yes but not many
4. one hour
5. yes but only to an extent and it would be taking their attention from other matters
6. several, like many of the ideas it would not be enough to move a Rok by itself but would help
7. they do, finding a volunteer is easy however, there are Black Iron pilots
8. of course, however your own fighters are rested and could intercept the CAP
9. a you have 12,000 Hercules Dropships, and could turn around 500 into flying bombs in the time you have
10. they are spread out
11. no, you do have spare plasma warheads for Deathstrikes however
HanEmpire
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Looking on the bright side, those losses may not be permanent. For all we know we now have a cadre of Knights fighting their way out of Avernus' Underworld, slated to emerge as hero units after the Invasion.
@Durin could this happen or would we need a good omake to prompt a roll?
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- Alice Springs, Australia
1. yes and will be for a few more hours at the least
2. 1,000 Regiments, this nubmer would be lwoer but you got an Omake bonus
3. correct
4. it will soon be cut, you cn move 100 regiments from Elysium be fore it gets cut
yes the Titans are counted among the heavy regiments
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- Alice Springs, Australia
with a good Omake yes
Doomed Wombat
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Because she gets a +50 bonus to fighting psykers, and while Weird Boyz are not human they are still psykers and thus she can do much more good in a target rich environment stopping a massive ritual than in Beirut.
1. Could he interface with diviners to find the best targets for engine blowing and get them to move in the most destructive way against other orks?
2. If he focused on it could he blow Garkill's rok?
Battle for the ages there.
The first is probably because its assumed we can easily rebuild them and yeah we can, but the loss of population and time makes me not want to do it.
The second is because we have 110 meteorites barrelling towards one containing the smartest ork I know of 1 million Weird Boyz and 2000 titans so its not too unreasonable.
3. How strong are our current titans (lets say Rever) compared to Gargants?
4. How effective against roks would these be if we used them as the explosives in the Hercules?
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