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The Long Night Part One: Embers in the Dusk: A Planetary Governor Quest (43k) Complete Sequel Up

Investigate the Sea?

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Angelform said:
Spoken like a man who has never played Space Hulk. Boarding actions against Nids rarely end well.
Demon ships are also rather problematic to board, unless the Space Marines in question are Grey Knights.

No. No they are not. The fact that different versions exist is a very different thing than being modular. Leman Russ tanks are not modular just because replacing the turret turns it into a different variant. Land Raiders are not modular just because they all use the same chassis.
For something to be modular it has to be possible to swap weapons (or whatever) 'in the field' rather than having to bring it back to the factory to be partially disassembled and rebuilt.
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Titans do change weapon loadouts on campaign.
 
durin said:
1. yes, it is lifeless due to Tyranids
2. no he has not been in that direction
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Unfortunate, even though Atlas's tech is now woefully out of date their sheer production isn't. It'd be nice to know they survived or are at least nice and intact.

Even if they got corrupted by the Abomination as long as it's not an Angylworld it could be reclaimed for Trust purposes. Just think of all that shiny shiny production.
 
@durin:
1) what makes the two final stages of the AdMech forges important, other than the theological aspect?
2) could the progressives create equivalents based on the current forges we have?
3) just as teams of junior Explorators work on archeotech and STCs, can we put together teams of junior Genetors who complete preliminary studies on wildlife?
 
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HanEmpire said:
@durin:
1) what makes the two final stages of the AdMech forges important, other than the theological aspect?
2) could the progressives create equivalents based on the current forges we have?
3) just as teams of junior Explorators work on archeotech and STCs, can we put together teams of junior Genetors who complete preliminary studies on wildlife?
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1. the fact that they are able to produce massive amounts of AM, EM and RM
2. not easily
3. n, to much work for me
 
So next turn for diplomacy can we focus on getting reports on the Space Marines and improving relations with the Quortaks? I hate the alien buggers good air but they are our neighbors.
 
@durin I understand that we won´t get any new action slot in the Biologis section, that is completely understandable, but since there are so many actions in the biologis alone and they take too long, Could any these two potential projects, intended to alleviate some of these issues, be acceptable?

1 Revision and improvement of the research methods, so the option Complete Examination Species (7 years) are reduced at least to the sum of the equivalent sequence: Preliminary Examination, Detailed Survey, and In-Depth Examination (6 years), or even reducing it a little more (5 years)

2 The genetors as they are right now are almost completely useless (they only discovered 2 species in more than 100 years), can we reform them so they act like the Colliga Reconstructus (they have the chance of actually start and finish the research on the different species, not only discover them) and their chance of success is improved to something more or less reasonable (20-25% for example)
 
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There are a lot of animals that havent been looked into but instead why not wait for the biologis to just gain a new action?

In the end we have limited resources and time which is what makes this part of the quests interesting.
 
Fanhunter696 said:
@durin I understand that we won´t get any new action slot in the Biologis section, that is completely understandable, but since there are so many actions in the biologis alone and they take too long, Could any these two potential projects, intended to alleviate some of these issues, be acceptable?

1 Revision and improvement of the research methods, so the option Complete Examination Species (7 years) are reduced at least to the sum of the equivalent sequence: Preliminary Examination, Detailed Survey, and In-Depth Examination (6 years), or even reducing it a little more (5 years)

2 The genetors as they are right now are almost completely useless (they only discovered 2 species in more than 100 years), can we reform them so they act like the Colliga Reconstructus (they have the chance of actually start and finish the research on the different species, not only discover them) and their chance of success is improved to something more or less reasonable (20-25% for example)
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1. going to happen
2. no, this is in effect more actions which you will not be getting, I have refused this exact same suggestion several times now
 
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    A: You can use double down on one project a year, and the project must have a cost and a success chance. Double down will increase the projects success chance by 20% and the ocst by 100%
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    1. When you are asking multiple questions in a single post please number them or I will ignore them
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    1. I will not add any option that either increase your number of actions or does actions that require a write up for free
    2. I am always open to ideas for new options and store those that seem interesting for later use, I often do not tell people that I have done this so do not be offended if I do not reply to a post suggesting an option, I have seen it and may use it at some future point
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    there is a selection of information sheets in the index, this should be read before you ask any questions
    1. it will take at least until 200 years after founding for Scott to lose the young trait, there is nothing you can do to hurry this so stop asking.
    Q: Why is our Dark Age tech not better X is dark age and way more advanced then anything we have
    A: A mix of reasons including that Dark Age tech is massively varied in the Lore, and I am taking a lower end estimate, that what you have is mass produced Dark Age tech rather then masterpieces like X probably is, and balance reasons. The only thing bringing up these arguments again and again does is make me less likely to give you any more Dark Age tech, so strop bringing it up. Please...
    Q: Can we reverse engineer the Baneblade
    A: You have way better tanks now.
    Q: just as teams of junior Explorators work on archeotech and STCs, can we put together teams of junior Genetors who complete preliminary studies on wildlife?
    A: No
    Q: Can we build Phasing X
    A: No, while you do have a unit called Phase-Tanks they are not capable of Phasing and you do not have any tech that is capable of Phasing
    1. Rotbart is not a psyker and is not going to become one
    Q: When will Rotbart have a chance to remarry
    A: When I tell you he does, probably never
    1. you can not re-roll a natural 1, actually you can now
    Q: Can Ridcully contact people hundreds of LY away?
    A: No, actually he can now
    Q: Can we train up new Farseers akin to Ridcully?
    A: no, though your seers are better trained then most human seers
    Q: What can Ridcully reroll?
    A: Most actions that are not a relationship or a nat 1
    Q: What sorts of events does Ridcully have a decent chance of 'foreseeing'? (Such as emergence of psykers, invasion of known foe, invasion of unknown foe, incursions, warp storms ending or forming, fucking Eldar and their fucking precog bullshit)
    A: anything on a planetary level or above, the more warp related the harder
    Q: Can we use Ridcully to find some (bit of highly technical infomation from 10,000 years or more ago or on the other side of the galaxy)
    A: unless you have a very strong link (such as an sample) to that information then no
    Q: How long is Lin's lifespan currently, i.e. will he die before 300 of natural causes?
    A: He is aging one year every 3.5 2.5 years despite Juve-Nat treatments
    Q: Can we increase Saint Lin's life indefinitely with Mechanicus actions?
    A: no, it is his soul that is burning out
    Q: Can we slow/stop Saint Lin's soul from burning out by X?
    A: no, unless X is literal Divine Intervention
    Q: Given that Saint Lin is nearing the end of his life...
    A: Saint Lin will most likely be alive to around 350 years after the death of the Emperor, unless this is soon he is not near the end of his life and stop acting as if he is. This topic has come up multiple times and I am sick of it. Actually relevant now
    Q: What's Syr's love life like?
    A: She has the occasional quite affair with a man but nothing long term
    Q: When can she get married?
    A: When their is a politically viable match, I am taking omakes for options
    Q: Does she still use a fake name?
    A: No
    Q: Does she have friends in the military
    A: Yes
    Q: Is she still friends with the playmates from childhood?
    A: Those that are still alive
    Q: Can we get Klovis-Ultan's character sheet
    A: Not unless I decide to give it to you, please do not ask this again
    1. you will get an opportunity to deploy all of the tech that you have found
    1. As a note in combat rounds it is more effective to just say what effect you want the psykers to achieve rather then mention specific powers. This saves effort for both me and for planmakers
    2.In general the larger the psychic working and the greater the number of psykers involved the the larger the number of psykers lost to burnout and the greater the chance that something will go wrong
    Q: Can we clone psykers?
    A: Not without making them very vulnerable to Daeomonic Possesion
    Q: What are the rolls required for psyker power ratings and sanity levels?
    A: Psyker d100 1-99-> Minor, 100->Major
    Major Psyker d100->1-60 Zeta 61-90 Epilson, 91-98 Delta 99 Gamma 100 -> Roll Gamma/Beta
    Gamma/Beta -> 1-60 Gamma, 61-98 Beta, 99+ Alpha
    Q: Can Mixed-Discipline Choirs be done?
    A: Yes
    Q: Can nonpsykers be in a choir?
    A: Only in very specific circumstances.
    1. Niflheim's population are Sigma-level Blanks. This means that they are Blanks in the same way that normal humans are psykers, in other words barely at all. They are not immune, or even very resistant to psychic powers and have no effect on psykers or daemons. There are now exceptions to this that you now of, which are formed into the elite units of Voids, Nulls and Draugr
    Q: can we import xenos, cultists from elsewhere, chaos xenos ect to feed to the Sirens
    A: Not without massive diplomatic problems both within the Trust and elsewhere You don't need to anyway
    1. Your stealth ships are hard to see not impossible to see. Avoiding notice to get closer for a first strike or in a battle is possible, hiding defence stations or sneaking into well par trolled areas is not.
    1. You can not make more Grey Knights until you figure out their gene-seed
    2. you do not know anything about Grey Knights other then they are a squad of Space Marine Psykers used by the Inquisition
    3. you will be able to start working on the grey Knights Genseed when I tell you you can, and not before. asking does not speed this up and may slow it down
    Q: How much evil are Eldar in this universe? Will they screw us just for being mon'keigh or are they reasonable?
    A: They are reasonable but put a lot more value in Eldar lives then human lives
    Q: Are Malal(Or Malice) and Squats real?
    A: Yes
    Q: When will the Emperor be reborn?
    A: Five to fifteen thousand years after his death
    1. One Favour may be traded for three favours of the level below at any time, this may not be done in reverse.
    Q: What are minor, major and honorbound favors.
    A: A Minor favor is something not against the interests of the person who owes you and something that requires little effort and does not carry much risk.
    A Major Favor is not against the interests of the person who owes you, that can be done without leaving themselves vulnerable or using up too much of their resources.
    A Honorbound Favor is not directly against the interests of the person who owes you, that can be done without leaving themselves utterly vulnerable or using up all of their resources.
    1. If an Omakes is marked as cannon that means that the events in the omake happened mostly as displayed. There may be slight differences and any mechanics in said Omake are not canon until I specifically confirm that they are.
    1. you can not teleport bombs ect into the enemy, only living beings. This is for balance reasons and will not be changed
    2. orbital bombardment does not work nearly as well as it should, also for balance reasons and also not subject to change
    3. you will need a ground army, as much as it seems like a good fleet can do everything due to the narrative of 40k a ground army is more important and plans that rely entirely on fleet action will not work, or not be sustainable
    4. Exterminatus is a way to destroy a world you have at least local orbital dominance over, not a way to kill heavily defended targets without a fight. Against any organised foe there is pretty much no way to landing an Cyclonic Torpedo without a major fight, as you need to either fire it from lower orbit, which is impossible to sneak to against an alert foe, or have enough attack craft in the void to prevent it being intercepted.
    5. antimatter is highly volatile, very expensive to use and make ships pretty fragile. Even if you could redesign your AM reactor to fit smaller craft it would be of massively limited use and effectivly make your ships glass cannons which can be easily killed by a hit and run attack or lucky shot. It works on the Dues which can put literal kilomters of ship and armour between the reactor and the enemy, smaller ships can not do this.
    Q: How do you determine when the Warpstorms end?
    A: I roll each turn with the probability increasing
    Q: What will happen to the Quest if the Rotbart line dies out?
    A: You play as whoever the next Governor of Avernus is
    Q: What are the general requirements for a critical, greater critical and/or perfect critical success? (I.E How do they work?)
    A: for a critical either it must be a nat 100 or both over a hundred and seventy-five above the target, for a greater crit it must be either all of the above or both over a hundred and a hundred and twenty-five above the target, or a perfect crit it must be either all of the above or both over a hundred and two hundred above the target,
    Q: When was Avernus colonised
    A: 4362970.M44 or year 43,930
     
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    1) Can we clone psykers?
    2) What are the domains of the Chaos Gods?
    3) Can Ridcully contact people hundreds of LY away?
    4) Can we train up new Farseers akin to Ridcully?
    5) Can we increase Saint Lin's life indefinitely with Mechanicus actions?
    6) What are the rolls required for psyker power ratings and sanity levels?
     
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