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The Long Night Part One: Embers in the Dusk: A Planetary Governor Quest (43k) Complete Sequel Up

Investigate the Sea?

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Wheel of time said:
@durin is it possible that the Inquisition might have at least theatrical knowledge on how to make a assassins Temple.
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No.

The assassin temples and the Inquisition were very deliberately kept apart and the creation of assassins requires augments the like of which you would not believe and hypoindoctrination to the extreme as well as their war gear and the specialist stuff.

Theoretically they know as much as we do.

They're really good and we have no idea how to make one.
 
HanEmpire said:
Even so, it'd be worth it to close all possible avenues of Chaos corruption.

Unless it kick starts the Mechanicus Civil War, yes. It's fucking Chaos.
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I strongly agree in this regard.

Wheel of time said:
@durin is it possible that the Inquisition might have at least theatrical knowledge on how to make a assassins Temple.
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Yes, kind of. The Inquisition tried very very hard to make assassins equal to the Officio Assassinorum but they always failed enormously. Temple Assassins are just that good.
 
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I really want to clean out those corrupted rituals. It's too soon after the Quartok Scandal to do anything big, but it's a hurdle we need to pass. @durin will Saint Lin or Scott add the ritual investigation to the actions list when they feel the time is right?

Afterwards we need to think about the next step of Mechanicus integration, perhaps something to enable the Imperial Trust to monitor the Mechanicus so that it can be held accountable for its actions when it fucks up. Techpriest Inquisitor perhaps? Like the Assassin-Inquisitors.
 
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Alex pears said:
No.

The assassin temples and the Inquisition were very deliberately kept apart and the creation of assassins requires augments the like of which you would not believe and hypoindoctrination to the extreme as well as their war gear and the specialist stuff.

Theoretically they know as much as we do.

They're really good and we have no idea how to make one.
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In that Case we need to figure out how to use the warp biology of Avernus to create our own unstoppable warriors of death. I mean there are T-Rexs with laser cannons I am sure we can eventually come up with something.
Edit:going to bed.
 
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Wheel of time said:
In that Case we need to figure out how to use the warp biology of Avernus to create our own unstoppable warriors of death. I mean there are T-Rexs with laser cannons I am sure we can eventually come up with something.
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We already have Saren studying their biology for bioaugments and our Heroics studying their powers. Nothing else to do regarding the wildlife besides that.
 
Wheel of time said:
In that Case we need to figure out how to use the warp biology of Avernus to create our own unstoppable warriors of death. I mean there are T-Rexs with laser cannons I am sure we can eventually come up with something.
Edit:going to bed.
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Andres110 said:
We already have Saren studying their biology for bioaugments and our Heroics studying their powers. Nothing else to do regarding the wildlife besides that.
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And we are probably never going to get to the level of SM's or the like.
 
Eh, I'm nit sure. It may be worth it to have a small part pf the mechanicus fall to chaos. The resulting crisis shpuld strengthen the progressive factions and allow more reforms.
 
10ebbor10 said:
Eh, I'm nit sure. It may be worth it to have a small part pf the mechanicus fall to chaos. The resulting crisis shpuld strengthen the progressive factions and allow more reforms.
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While I do think it would strengthen her position a lot if a high ranking Vanir magos was an abomination follower, we shouldn't want it to happen.
 
10ebbor10 said:
Eh, I'm nit sure. It may be worth it to have a small part pf the mechanicus fall to chaos. The resulting crisis shpuld strengthen the progressive factions and allow more reforms.
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If your plan involves willingly allowing Chaos to grow, that's when you're supposed to know that there's something seriously wrong with your plan.
 
In short if we can find a high ranking traditionalist who has fallen to the abomination expose it and have people instantly ready to take it out great.

Other wise not good under any circumstance.
 
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Everybody was Kung Fu Fighting
  • Apocrypha
    • What was that about underground fight clubs?

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    Everybody was Kung Fu Fighting
    ~~~
    Vanir Magazine, Issue 2473
    Special feature

    The Secret World of Avernus' Underground Dojos
    By Girdus Tseliyaga, foreign correspondent

    It is dark. As you blink away the last afterimages of light, a hand grabs your shoulder, pulling you into place. The room, an unused storage deposit, is filled with the heat of bodies, the rhythmic tapping of code reaching your ears.

    Suddenly, there is light. In the centre square enter two soldiers, wearing nothing but their underwear. One is an artilleryman, his upper body thick with muscle from hauling shells. The other, a riflewoman, stretches her hamstrings silently. A machine priest presides between them, his augmented reflexes and biometric scanner the only recourse against accidental injury. Two recording drones hover above each contestant, capturing footage for later analysis.

    The techpriest assesses both contestants, and holds up a blinking red light. As per a pre-agreed code, when it changes to green, the match will begin, halting only until yield or unconsciousness. In most cases, it is the latter.

    The spectators are silent.

    On one blink, it is red. The next, it is green.

    The man immediately blocks the airborne roundhouse, angling the bone-shattering force upward. His opponent moves with the rotation, driving her foot into his ribs before her other falls to strike his head. He dodges at the sensation of wind, barely slipping out of range, as the heel strikes nothing but air, scything around as the riflewoman makes contact with the ground.

    From one foot she springs forward, all her motion converted to a near horizontal leap as she reaches out to catch the rising knee strike. She pulls herself forward, stepping on his foot to move forward. Her fist lashes out as she travels in a rapid barrage, one strike to his thigh, one shot to the navel blocked by a bulky forearm, a strike through the clavicle targeting the subclavian arteries, and a last uppercut that knocks the man's head to the ground with a crack.

    She curls inward, rolling forward on her shoulders to the edge of the square. Behind her, the light blinks red. The match is over, and the lights return as the high-speed footage is reviewed. All in all, from stop to stop, combat lasted for duration of three seconds.

    This is the world of Avernite martial arts: brutal, uncompromising, and above all, conclusive. For Avernites, who already drill eight hours a day, spending what little free time they have practicing further seems mad. Well, madder, and honestly a little frightening. But in a world of madness, strange things become sane.

    In comparison with our own CQC, the Avernite "styles" lack any sense of flourish or mercy, replaced with ruthless, unswerving calculation. With ready access to Mechanicus Skitarii protocols, every motion is trained to peak efficiency and expert timing. A practitioner rarely takes pride in his own progress, regarding the perfection of the art as simply a necessary chore, akin to maintaining the functionality of a weapon. That a single Avernite blue-belt is a match for an equivalent grandmaster is beside the point.

    Records of fights are available on request, and hobbyists analyse and annotate each encounter with an algebraic notation e.g. a forward step into a straight punch may be recorded as LLFHRLAF*, concentrated from Left Leg Forward, Hip Rotation, Left Arm Forward *Strike (This is a heavily simplified code for purposes of explanation. Most records are far more complex in terms of angles and traction, with some even accounting for specific organs, extremities, heartrate, and blinks). Lacking a worldwide standard, annotations and explanations vary between hobbyists enough that one may identify a specific annotator by his or her custom shorthand and level of marginalia.

    In truth, there are few schools solely dedicated to teaching martial arts, much like fish have no schools for swimming. Every citizen has developed his or her own technique by necessity, and many emergent "schools" are centered on similarity of body type, rather than philosophy. Learning them is trivial; for a relatively moderate fee and some wait time, a trained telepath can exchange knowledge from a senior practitioner directly into your mind. Even so, exchanging tips and tricks is a staple of Avernite conversation.

    Psyker combat is the sole exception, as several stable suites of biomanced bodily architecture are being explored for viability, and require certain states of mind to maintain. Furthermore, each psykic discipline possesses ways of leveraging martial force. It would take too long to list all several hundred styles specific to each psykic discipline and their permutations and interdisciplinary combinations, so for brevity I will list the most widely known:

    Thundabeast Fist – a solely Biomancy based combat style, built from body-hardening techniques and inertial manipulation. Stubfire is totally useless, and adamantium walls crumple like alumi-foil beneath their force. Taught to near all psykers admitted to the Unseen University as a core subject.

    Invisible Hand – a style specific to Telepath-Diviners, who are able to scry forward in time and manipulate their own body into position as well as those of their allies. Psykers trained in this style have been known to move entire squads through hails of bullets unharmed.

    Phase Tiger Style – renowned for its difficulty, but renders the user intangible to all non-Warp attacks. Made famous by Sanctionite Xavier, who first developed the style from observing his pet Phase-Tiger, Mittens. He is also the only known psyker to have mastered all extant psyker martial arts through use of Telepathic bridges. When asked, he replied, "Yeah, I'm sticking them together into one super-style. Slow going, but it passes those lazy afternoons."

    Primaris Jameson was quoted as saying, "That's fucking bullshit, Ger."

    ~~~

    Thanya put down the manuscript, and looked at Girdus.

    Under her gaze, he shrugged. "Well?"

    Thanya sighed. "What do you call a group of fish, Girdus?"

    Girdus frowned, and swore.
    ~~~
    AN: *muscle_wizard.jpg*
    HanEmpire said:
    This ought to be Primaris Xavier, but I suppose a civilian might not know.
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    He created the style when psykers were still called Sanctionites by the wider populace. If he made it now, it would be Primaris, yes.
     
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    • Hmmm... you know, I think I just discovered a loophole in Mechanicus doctrine in regards to xenotechnology. Right now the Quartok are required to give information on their technology to the AdMech by the treaty, and while they won't seriously look at it they still have access. Since the Quartok managed to make a few breakthroughs in their tech by studying human technology, they could hypothetically do the same with xenotechnology. So, if we capture some xenotechnology that could potentially be studied, we could hand it to the Quartoks and let them study it, and they can report their findings. Nobody should give a damn about xenos studying xenotech, right? :p
     
    Enjou said:
    Hmmm... you know, I think I just discovered a loophole in Mechanicus doctrine in regards to xenotechnology. Right now the Quartok are required to give information on their technology to the AdMech by the treaty, and while they won't seriously look at it they still have access. Since the Quartok managed to make a few breakthroughs in their tech by studying human technology, they could hypothetically do the same with xenotechnology. So, if we capture some xenotechnology that could potentially be studied, we could hand it to the Quartoks and let them study it, and they can report their findings. Nobody should give a damn about xenos studying xenotech, right? :p
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    Depends. A sufficiently paranoid Mechanicus may think we're trying to replace them by having the Xenos developping Xenotech, which would be like, doubke Heresy.

    We should consider that the Empire was held together by 3 things :

    1) The Emperor
    2) Common Enemies
    3) Mutual dependance

    As such, I'm afraud the mechanicus could potentially think even Xenos developping Xenotech a problem, as they derive their influence from maintaining technology.
     
    By the way, even if we had a chance to get Imperial Assassins I'd be against it.

    Too expensive, too specialized, too indoctrinated, too inhuman (literally less than Space Marines in my eyes)

    I just don't see the advantage in spending the time, effort and ressources to make a hundred skilled and loyal Avernian Assassins on a single Imperial Assassin that is so far indoctrinated to absolute obedience that he'd propably fall to the Abomination before completing his first mission.
     
    Artemis1992 said:
    By the way, even if we had a chance to get Imperial Assassins I'd be against it.

    Too expensive, too specialized, too indoctrinated, too inhuman (literally less than Space Marines in my eyes)

    I just don't see the advantage in spending the time, effort and ressources to make a hundred skilled and loyal Avernian Assassins on a single Imperial Assassin that is so far indoctrinated to absolute obedience that he'd propably fall to the Abomination before completing his first mission.
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    A single Imperial assassin could kill an entire regiment of Helguard with relative ease.

    They are far too indoctrinated, but they are well worth the investment.

    To put it into context a strike force, that is to say one of every temple, were sent to kill Horus post him being boosted and had a 0.02 chance of killing him.
     
    Alex pears said:
    A single Imperial assassin could kill an entire regiment of Helguard with relative ease.

    They are far too indoctrinated, but they are well worth the investment.

    To put it into context a strike force, that is to say one of every temple, were sent to kill Horus post him being boosted and had a 0.02 chance of killing him.
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    I know how good they are. My arguments against them are:
    1. The high costs in time and equipment
    2. The problematic indoctrination
    3. The extremly wasteful training (too many talented people fail and die compared to the few successes)

    And last but not least we don't really need them. Want to kill a regular human? Take a regular Assassin from the Arbites or Army. Want to kill an enemy general? Take Xavier. Want to kill an ally without anyone knowing? Our Diplo-Inquisitor did that to that one annoying king without the need for Imperial Assassins.
     
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