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The Long Night Part One: Embers in the Dusk: A Planetary Governor Quest (43k) Complete Sequel Up

Investigate the Sea?

  • Yes

    Votes: 593 80.4%

  • No

    Votes: 145 19.6%
  • Total voters
    738
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Elder Haman said:
Thoughts:

Avernus Officer Academy would be the min/max route. Continuing to increase the three most important stats.

Avernite Naval Academy gives a similar min/max route but with a trade of less Martial for Naval command. May be a big benefit with the future expansion of the Avernite fleet. Not a bad choice.

Boot Camp is actually a very interesting option. It actually strengthens Syr's weakest stat (Piety) while also increasing two of the important stats. And learning how the average people live is a nice flavorful bonus that may pay unexpected dividends. Also, this option is probably something that we will not get again. Other options we can do later, but this one we can probably only do now. @durin Would you say that is correct?

University is also a pretty good choice in my mind because it it further develops a strength of Syr's that has been neglected by her other training. Learning is actually one of her better base stats. She just has very few bonuses.

Grand Tour this choice has significant long term benefits. It would help in establishing greater connections among the Imperial Trust, and would set a major precedent. It likely will have a major impact beyond just Syr. Also, Syr needs to suck it up and learn that duty is more important then what she wants.

My initial thoughts are the following:

First: Avernus Officer Academy or Boot Camp

Second: University

Third: Grand Tour

Four: Naval Academy followed by apprenticeship to Uncle Freyr.

@durin Is the above schedule doable for Syr?

I think that long term, the last three are absolutely essential for Syr to have at some point. Avernite Officer Academy and the Boot Camp options are optional. However, they (or University) have the most attraction to me for the extra bonus from being the first tertiary education choice.

So I think it comes down to these three: Avernus Officer Academy, University or Boot Camp
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I agree with you that Boot Camp seem very useful and it´s unfortunately is being overlooked, it will give Syr the most combat experince and survival skills, and those are a complete must in Avernus (we have loose much more Heroes to the wildlife than all the invasions and Psykers)

And @durin a couple of questions:

1 How long will take for Syr to complete any of these education options?

2 Would be possible to create a commando unit of powerful Psykers (Betas and Gammas) to fight alongside Xavier against those extremly powerful rogue Psykers? If it is possible, When will we have enough of these Psykers?
 
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Elder Haman said:
@durin Are we voting for an order of all tertiary education? Or just the first one?

I'm fine either way, just want to know the way to vote.
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Already answered - just the one.

Fanhunter696 said:
I agree with you that Boot Camp seem very useful and it´s unfortunately is being overlooked, it will give Syr the most combat experince and survival skills, and those are a complete must in Avernus (we have loose much more Heroes to the wildlife than all the invasions and Psykers)
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I think it's more that people don't want to put our only heir through the most dangerous possible option. If Freya was still alive and we had another kid it might be an option, but without any redundancy in our line of heirs it's not a risk that people consider worth it.
 
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Fanhunter696 said:
I agree with you that Boot Camp seem very useful and it´s unfortunately is being overlooked, it will give Syr the most combat experince and survival skills, and those are a complete must in Avernus (we have loose much more Heroes to the wildlife than all the invasions and Psykers)

And @durin a couple of questions:

1 How long will take for Syr to complete any of those options?

2 Would be possible to create a commando unit of powerful Psykers (Betas and Gammas) to fight alongside Xavier against those extremly powerful rogue Psykers? If it is possible, When will we have enough of those Psykers?
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1. already answered five years
2. Yes it would at the expense of the other psykers doing more damage and the powerful psykers having more time to do damage before Xavier and his team reaches the fight, you are also more liekly to lose some of your powerful psykers
 
@durin - meant to ask, was the 65,000 EM you said was needed for the repair of the Command Battleships the cost for one of them or all of them put together?
 
durin said:
2. Yes it would at the expense of the other psykers doing more damage and the powerful psykers having more time to do damage before Xavier and his team reaches the fight, you are also more liekly to lose some of your powerful psykers
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Well, I supose that Xavier is only deployed against those rogue Psykers when the situation is desperate, so my idea was for him to have a team that fights alongside him in those cases to increase his survival chances ... This is Basically becase he was badly injured last year, and losing Xavier would be a truly major lost...
 
@durin:
1) Midgard's population has nearly reached 150 billion (!). How long can they last before they start running into overcrowding problems?
2) Vanaheim's population is around ~32 billion now. When can it be considered a Hive World?
 
durin said:
you will be able to do boot camp later but it will suffer more then any of the other options for not being done first
yes that schedule is possible but you are likely to get a reduced Naval command trait like Fredrick has
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With Syr's martial I think that is fine. Especially if she the apprentices under Freyr for a while, that will give actual experience.

Well... I know this is the unpopular choice, but after thinking about it, I think I'm going to go with:

[X] Boot Camp

I really like the effect of her understanding the life of the average Avernite better. And I also like the bonus to Piety. I figure University next, followed by Grand Tour, and then Naval Academy.

I won't be disappointed with the Officer Academy though if it wins as expected.
 
@durin: For the BootCamp option, is it possible to have the officers at the very least watch out for Syr without her finding out about the favouritism? Basically increase her chance of survival as much as possible.
 
There is also the write-in option...

Can anyone think of anything else?

University on Muspelheim?

Apprenticeship with Henry in the Administorum?

Don't really seem like better options to me...
 
Elder Haman said:
There is also the write-in option...

Can anyone think of anything else?

University on Muspelheim?

Apprenticeship with Henry in the Administorum?

Don't really seem like better options to me...
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Syr would hate both of those. She doesn't like Administration for one, and she wants to prove herself as the best heir to Frederick as possible. Sending her away from Avernus would probably get taken as an insult or something.
 
HanEmpire said:
@durin:
1) Midgard's population has nearly reached 150 billion (!). How long can they last before they start running into overcrowding problems?
2) Vanaheim's population is around ~32 billion now. When can it be considered a Hive World?
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1.a long time
2. Not yet, they will need to grow a bit more until they are, I am considering any world with 50 bil to be a Hive World
 
[X] Boot Camp

I like the idea of Syr working with the common grunt and learning what they go through. The vote might not win, but ehh might as well put one forward.
 
[X] Boot Camp


...I'm gonna get so much shit if my first post on this thread (and this forum) gets the governor's only daughter killed aren't I?
 
I am so indecisive, having second thoughts again.

Questions for you all:
-How will bonding with the common people of Avernus help Syr?
-Is the increase in piety and combat stats worth the temporary increase in chance of death?
-Do the benefits of Boot Camp outweigh getting the maximum results out of the Officer Academy?

@durin: The traits that we can get from the tertiary education routes, can we achieve all of them given enough dedicated Personal Action slots & circumstances, a la Frederick's Naval Command trait (removable malus)?
 
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