The Long Night Part One: Embers in the Dusk: A Planetary Governor Quest (43k) Complete Sequel Up

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So, back to what we should mention in this section of the council meeting.

I think we ought to give a report on psyker stuff, as a lot has changed since we last discussed it--especially in a strategic sense. We should mention that we've built an expansion to the psyker city, and that Saint Lin is currently creating an entire order of the faith to aid psykers. We can also talk about the research we've been doing to improve the quality of the neo-astropaths--although we're yet to get results we can field, it looks like we're getting quite close to one--which really matters because from what we've heard the Astropaths are gonna start dying off soon. We can also mention that before too long we should be able to export psyker detection and the like.

Next we should probably mention our infrastructure situation--we remain largely self-sufficient in terms of resources and continue to expand both our land and orbital resource production. On the military side we've been conducting upgrades to our defenses and are recruiting a large number into our active military, hoping to get it back up near 2% of the adult population as well as conducting significant upgrades to our air wings.

Other than that I don't see too much we need to bother them with--the Quartok and any issues people have with our dealings with Trolls/Sirens are discussed next phase I think, and that would also be the time to suggest setting up a Trust military academy for high officers to help spread military ideas/expertise as well as improve the coordination and tactics used by multi-world forces.
 
That was because the ship's captain was an armchair general promoted way above his abilities.
Still crashed :D.

Infinity is 5 kilometers long by the way. The Pillar of Autumn is 1.2 kilometers long. Standard UNSC carriers are like 3 kilometers long.

Of course, it's not as big as the CSO-class supercarriers but it has nicer guns.
Still peanuts by 40K standards.

"WHAAAT? Your largest ships barely come up the size of our crusirs and your standard are outweighed by our escorts HAHAHHA" in an obnoxious manner :D.

Still thanks for the correction.

Any Idea's on tech that ain't too op and could be feasibly here?
 
Also, if people are looking for inspiration for tech, Supreme Commander stuff has some pretty cool ideas--also, a lot of their atmospheric stuff fits with the single-purpose and stealth stuff that the void fighters/bombers/etc had.
 
My take is that while the DAoT could make absolutely amazing things, it was more often than not vastly more cost effective to use less advanced designs. For the same resource investment, it was honestly better to have most of the military be at the lower mid tier than to be top tier. Titans represented the absolute top of what was economically viable, only for the most developed worlds. Even then, they were mostly vanity pieces.
 
Also, if people are looking for inspiration for tech, Supreme Commander stuff has some pretty cool ideas--also, a lot of their atmospheric stuff fits with the single-purpose and stealth stuff that the void fighters/bombers/etc had.
I may put some work into that angle tomorrow of Friday. Going to bed now.
 
My take is that while the DAoT could make absolutely amazing things, it was more often than not vastly more cost effective to use less advanced designs. For the same resource investment, it was honestly better to have most of the military be at the lower mid tier than to be top tier. Titans represented the absolute top of what was economically viable, only for the most developed worlds. Even then, they were mostly vanity pieces.
No the top there was the Castigior and it wasn't a vanity piece it was an anti world weapon. The thing wasn't feasible to build for even the most developed world.

To put it into context the thing claimed that all imperial titans are just bad copies of it, and only a single one could be built by a Dark Mechanicum world who in the same time built around 20 legions of corrupted titans including Emperor classes.
 
CSO-class supercarrier?

It's not all that powerful, it's just big. Insanely ginormously mind bogglingly big but that's about it. It's honestly pretty weaksauce for its size, the Infinity could kill one if it fought smart.
Honestly that thing just looks like they were trying to make something to outmass 40k :D.

As for wheter we have it?? Maybe. I can see it being in an STC database, but on what was clearly a bunch of hightech war ships shakes hands from side to side.
 
The Ishimura from Dead Space maybe? It routinely performs Exterminatus.
We all know how that one ended :D

Still I never really got "why :???:" it needed to do that. It was clear humanity in that verse had FTL and could colonies even frozen waste balls so why go around blowing planets up for their goodies when old terrestrial mining would do?
 
The Ishimura from Dead Space maybe? It routinely performs Exterminatus.
Would actually be a rather nice addition for a non-military find to boost our space mining, though preferably without the brainwashing space zombies and xenos artifacts.
 
We all know how that one ended :D

Still I never really got "why :???:" it needed to do that. It was clear humanity in that verse had FTL and could colonies even frozen waste balls so why go around blowing planets up for their goodies when old terrestrial mining would do?
They were running into a massive energy crisis, apparently. They were doing that for fuel.
 
Would actually be a rather nice addition for a non-military find to boost our space mining, though preferably without the brainwashing space zombies and xenos artifacts.
That is certainly preffered.

They were running into a massive energy crisis, apparently. They were doing that for fuel.
Then how does blowing up the planet wasting a heck of a lot of energy to do so then "harvesting" the planet do that?

Ah video game logic video game logic DO NOT QUESTION IT BRAIN, BUT ITS SO DUMB :cry:
 
Could always find examples of technology from Section 8. I mean this is the standard power armor.

USIF Powered Assault Armor

Could also find stuff from EVE Online, they have plenty of stuff. There is the ground side stuff.

DUST 514

And of course there is plenty of space related technologies.
 
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That is certainly preffered.


Then how does blowing up the planet wasting a heck of a lot of energy to do so then "harvesting" the planet do that?

Ah video game logic video game logic DO NOT QUESTION IT BRAIN, BUT ITS SO DUMB :cry:
Wasn't an energy crisis so much as a raw material crisis. Earth and the populated colonies were basically mined out, so they took to dismantling other planets to supply the resource demands of the Core Worlds. Setting up mining colonies on new planets to mine them out would take too long, so the CEC built the Planet Cracker ships to expedite the process. Rather than having to dig mine shafts planetside, the ship literally tears chunks out of the planet using a gravity beam, then brings it up to the ship in orbit where it is mined and processed. This repeats over several years until the entire planet is consumed.

What makes 0 sense is the size of the Ishimura and the crew complement is WAY too small to do a job like that in 3-5 years, which is game canon for how long Planetary Mining can take. The ship is less than 2km long and has a crew of less than 1,400 people. Doesn't work, the tech needed to work on that time frame would have to be SupCom or TA scale, not to mention how they can store so much metal in such a small space.
 
Can we use credit we have with Vanaheim to repair our battleships/superbattleships in their shipyards? And is it worth that?
 
Then how does blowing up the planet wasting a heck of a lot of energy to do so then "harvesting" the planet do that?
Blow up planets? The Ishimura used gravity tech to rip out massive chunks of a planet(-oid)'s crust so it can be mined easier in orbit.

Could always find examples of technology from Section 8. I mean this is the standard power armor.

USIF Powered Assault Armor

Could also find stuff from EVE Online, they have plenty of stuff. There is the ground side stuff.

DUST 514

And of course there is plenty of space related technologies.
It would be much better to find an STC for micro-fusion packs so most of the designs we have now don't need to recharge every other day. Speaking of power armor, have we actually trained and fielded anyone in the heavy-duty ones like the Devastator (was that the name?) types with in-built heavy weapons? We've fielded the Elite, Trooper and Scout/Advanced Scout PA in separate regiments as far as I remember, with the exeption of Pilot PA. Does at least the Governor's Own field some combined-arms diversity in terms of Power Armor types?
 
Then how does blowing up the planet wasting a heck of a lot of energy to do so then "harvesting" the planet do that?
My theory on that was because they weren't actually just mining planets for resources, they were trying to find Markers. Considering that Aegis VII was basically a random chance, I think EarthGov and the Church were trying to find out where the blasted things were hidden. It's a certainly a more plausible theory to consider.

And yeah, they don't blow up planets. The animated movie puts forward the idea that colonies are necessary to actually start the process.
 
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Wasn't an energy crisis so much as a raw material crisis. Earth and the populated colonies were basically mined out, so they took to dismantling other planets to supply the resource demands of the Core Worlds. Setting up mining colonies on new planets to mine them out would take too long, so the CEC built the Planet Cracker ships to expedite the process. Rather than having to dig mine shafts planetside, the ship literally tears chunks out of the planet using a gravity beam, then brings it up to the ship in orbit where it is mined and processed. This repeats over several years until the entire planet is consumed.

What makes 0 sense is the size of the Ishimura and the crew complement is WAY too small to do a job like that in 3-5 years, which is game canon for how long Planetary Mining can take. The ship is less than 2km long and has a crew of less than 1,400 people. Doesn't work, the tech needed to work on that time frame would have to be SupCom or TA scale, not to mention how they can store so much metal in such a small space.
So either they have dimension bending tech to fit all that stuff in a smaller area, and they can convert all that stuff into nanobots or something.

Could always find examples of technology from Section 8. I mean this is the standard power armor.

USIF Powered Assault Armor

Could also find stuff from EVE Online, they have plenty of stuff. There is the ground side stuff.

DUST 514

And of course there is plenty of space related technologies.
I really want that power armor, but I don't think we gonna get it.

On the other hand maybe we can reasearch and make it @durin?

It would be much better to find an STC for micro-fusion packs so most of the designs we have now don't need to recharge every other day. Speaking of power armor, have we actually trained and fielded anyone in the heavy-duty ones like the Devastator (was that the name?) types with in-built heavy weapons? We've fielded the Elite, Trooper and Scout/Advanced Scout PA in separate regiments as far as I remember, with the exeption of Pilot PA. Does at least the Governor's Own field some combined-arms diversity in terms of Power Armor types?
Not yet, the problem with them is that they are all really expensive to make, like the elite version of the Destroyer makes a visible impact on our reserves. Not the kinda stuff we can just splurge on.
My theory on that was because they weren't actually just mining planets for resources, they were trying to find Markers. Considering that Aegis VII was basically a random chance, I think EarthGov and the Church were trying to find out where the blasted things were hidden. It's a certainly a more plausible theory to consider.
More plausible, but still unlikely given that they do actually need stuff and the church in game would probably want to be more careful with how they went about locating them, after all the last one was destroyed.

In anycase we should probably take this one to PM's or to a Dead space thread cause this is a 40K thread.

If it becomes relevant, then yeah talk the **** outa dis.
 
Maybe one more suggestion for inspiration, look at GDI from the Command and Conquer series from Tiberian Dawn up to Tib-Wars.

And you stop at Tib Wars...because that was the last C&C game ever. There was never any sequel after Tib Wars...:mad::(
 
Maybe one more suggestion for inspiration, look at GDI from the Command and Conquer series from Tiberian Dawn up to Tib-Wars.

And you stop at Tib Wars...because that was the last C&C game ever. There was never any sequel after Tib Wars...:mad::(
How high on the tech scale was Com and Con, cause I'm relatively sure they never got off earth.

Then again I have never played one so what do I know :D
 
How high on the tech scale was Com and Con, cause I'm relatively sure they never got off earth.

Then again I have never played one so what do I know :D
Near the end of Tib Wars...not super impressive techwise. They did get off Earth, I mean they have vehicles that could go from land to orbit like no problem, but the game was basically set on Earth for the most part.

What made their technology interesting was that from a design perspective, it's actually pretty decent and not all that bad. Evidently GDI is considered a incredibly competent military, which they had to be since the Brotherhood of Nod was basically under the control of bloody Kane.

The thing about it is, their units and technology would be useful in their DAoT equivalent. Certainly somethings would just be better than what they bring to the table...but then again a reliable weapon will always have it's place on the battlefield.

Plus it would be kickass to see a DAoT of the Mammoth Tank or ORCA.
 
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