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The Heir of the Dragon: A Rhaenyra Targaryen Quest

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Imperious said:
Dreamfyre is actually the second oldest dragon after Vhagar right now, having been the dragon of Jaehaerys' and Alyssane's big sister. She might be somewhat smaller then Vermithor, but she's probably at least the size of Meleys and Caraxes, if not larger, and multiple times the size of Sunfyre by the time of the dance. In that regard she'd be a much bigger concern then Sunfyre.

This time around who ever claims Dreamfyre, if they end up being our enemy, might not be as averse to taking her into battle as Helaena.
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Oh definitely.
I meant Dreamfyre might be a good bond for a targ kid because she evidently bonded with Helaena, so assuming dragons have a type she's definitely more in the Silverwing camp than the Vermathir camp of old dragons.
Whoever gets Dreamfyre on their side can be very dangerous if the rider isn't a pacifist like her canon rider.
 
Wiggy said:
Actually, speaking of cradle eggs, are we going to be rolling dice to see if they hatch or is it going to be a narrative thing?
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Narrative. Because you'll have a choice between having them hatch a dragon or claiming one and I feel like no one would go for just hatching if it carried the risk of the egg not hatching due to dice roll.
 
Teen Spirit said:
Narrative. Because you'll have a choice between having them hatch a dragon or claiming one and I feel like no one would go for just hatching if it carried the risk of the egg not hatching due to dice roll.
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To be fair IIRC the reason why Rhaenyra put eggs in the cradles of all of her sons by Harwin was because she was hoping them hatching would quell the claims about their bastardry, much as Aenys' egg hatching quelled the rumors about his. Without that hanging over our head there's less of a pressing need to put an egg in our kid's cradle when there are already riderless older dragons, particularly when some of them are friendly and docile like Silverwing and not just fear monsters like Vermithor.

Plus pre Rook's Rest Sunfyre is just the goodest boi:

View: https://www.youtube.com/shorts/1x5V6qsMbIQ

I'd be okay with one of our kids getting him if they for some reason couldn't get one of the big three of Vermithor, Silverwing or Dreamfyre.
 
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I mean, eggs hatching is rare enough that it'd be nice to have at least a couple crib eggs hatch to expand the dragon pool. But yeah, having a couple kids available to claim dragons might be nice. Particularly it might be wise to have our firstborn able to claim a mature dragon? Although they'd also have more time for their dragon to grow.
 
Wiggy said:
Particularly it might be wise to have our firstborn able to claim a mature dragon? Although they'd also have more time for their dragon to grow.
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We should also keep in mind that the longer the older dragons remain unclaimed the greater the chance that any of our half siblings from whoever Viserys ends up remarrying will try to claim them at some point. Just look at Aemond and Vhagar. Boy didn't even let Vhagar stay unclaimed for a week.
 
Imperious said:
This time around who ever claims Dreamfyre, if they end up being our enemy, might not be as averse to taking her into battle as Helaena.
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Speaking of Claiming Old Dragons, unless Vaghar rider in on team Black once the Dance starts our first move should be to pay the Faceless Men to kill whoever is Vaghar's rider, that way we take the biggest magical nuke out of the equation as early as possible...
Imperious said:
We should also keep in mind that the longer the older dragons remain unclaimed the greater the chance that any of our half siblings from whoever Viserys ends up remarrying will try to claim them at some point. Just look at Aemond and Vhagar. Boy didn't even let Vhagar stay unclaimed for a week.
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I would like to point out that the only unclaimed dragons that live outside of Dragonstone are Vaghar, Dreamfyre, and (possibly) Sunfyre... For Vermithor, Silverwing, and the three wild ones anyone has to go to Drangonstone, and since it is our island/castle, we could easily prevent our half sibllings form claiming them...

But TBH, I would like to try to have a good relationship with our half-siblings, not only because it is significantly less likely that someone who loves you tries to stab you in the back, but also because the children are innocent and we should at least give them a chance...
 
Fanhunter696 said:
I would like to point out that the only unclaimed dragons that live outside of Dragonstone are Vaghar, Dreamfyre, and (possibly) Sunfyre... For Vermithor, Silverwing, and the three wild ones anyone has to go to Drangonstone, and since it is our island/castle, we could easily prevent our half sibllings form claiming them...
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Depends on whether Viserys commands us to allow them to enter Dragonstone's lairs in order for them to claim a dragon at some point. We could hardly tell him no.

Fanhunter696 said:
But TBH, I would like to try to have a good relationship with our half-siblings, not only because it is significantly less likely that someone who loves you tries to stab you in the back, but also because the children are innocent and we should at least give them a chance...
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We might even want to go a step further and be such a good sister, like Rhaena was for Jaehaerys and Alyssane, and put eggs in all of their cradles, which would just so happen to also mean that they wouldn't be able to bond with one of the older dragons later on...
 
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Fanhunter696 said:
Speaking of Claiming Old Dragons, unless Vaghar rider in on team Black once the Dance starts our first move should be to pay the Faceless Men to kill whoever is Vaghar's rider, that way we take the biggest magical nuke out of the equation as early as possible...
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Part of the reason I didn't have Sneaky Rhaenyra as an option is I am not a fan of things like this. Flat out the Faceless Men generally make their price far more than most are willing to bear. And feels rather metagamey considering who Rhaenyra is shaping up to be.
 
Teen Spirit said:
Part of the reason I didn't have Sneaky Rhaenyra as an option is I am not a fan of things like this. Flat out the Faceless Men generally make their price far more than most are willing to bear. And feels rather metagamey considering who Rhaenyra is shaping up to be.
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Honestly I just figure the Faceless men generally aren't interested in their order taking the political heat for eliminating major political figures like kings that they just hide behind a figleaf of demanding prices that no one is willing to pay. It would explain how you have all those wars that could be ended in a fraction of the time if a magical super assassin intervened even when the belligerent factions are some of the richest people on the planet whom, if they can't pay the Faceless men's rate for killing royalty, then no one can.
 
Teen Spirit said:
Part of the reason I didn't have Sneaky Rhaenyra as an option is I am not a fan of things like this. Flat out the Faceless Men generally make their price far more than most are willing to bear. And feels rather metagamey considering who Rhaenyra is shaping up to be.
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Fair enough, and considering their origin it is unlikely that they would like to work with a Valiryan Dragonlords anyway...
 
Fanhunter696 said:
Speaking of Claiming Old Dragons, unless Vaghar rider in on team Black once the Dance starts our first move should be to pay the Faceless Men to kill whoever is Vaghar's rider, that way we take the biggest magical nuke out of the equation as early as possible...
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I feel this keeps on popping up in asoiaf threads but: why do people think the weird dehumanizing death cult is something you can just hit up for easy killings like you're on medieval Craigslist. I legit hate the asoiaf ck2 mod making it so trivial
 
Fanhunter696 said:
Speaking of Claiming Old Dragons, unless Vaghar rider in on team Black once the Dance starts our first move should be to pay the Faceless Men to kill whoever is Vaghar's rider, that way we take the biggest magical nuke out of the equation as early as possible...
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But why we need to be the Blacks?,what if some of us want to be the Reds or the Yellows?The Purples?The Blues and etc?,You guys get too caught up in the thought of following what happened in real history even though there have been changes, where is your creativity guys? (I could be joking or serious).:p
 
Champs said:
But why we need to be the Blacks?,what if some of us want to be the Reds or the Yellows?The Purples?The Blues and etc?,You guys get too caught up in the thought of following what happened in real history even though there have been changes, where is your creativity guys? (I could be joking or serious).:p
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Based on the initial vote, it seems like a significant chunk of the voting base's willing to go for the full rainbow.

A_Somebody said:
I feel this keeps on popping up in asoiaf threads but: why do people think the weird dehumanizing death cult is something you can just hit up for easy killings like you're on medieval Craigslist. I legit hate the asoiaf ck2 mod making it so trivial
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Yeah, the fact that most important nobility is still alive, kind of implies that they're not that easily hired.
 
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@Teen Spirit since it seems, at least for now, that we will try for a match with Herwin Strong... Can we do the practical and reasonable thing with Harrenhall and build a smaller livable keep inside that humongous ruin?

I am asking because even if our family would lose the cool factor of daily living in a Dark Souls ruin, it is the best way of giving a use to Harrenhal without bankrupting the realm trying to rebuild it...
 
Fanhunter696 said:
@Teen Spirit since it seems, at least for now, that we will try for a match with Herwin Strong... Can we do the practical and reasonable thing with Harrenhall and build a smaller livable keep inside that humongous ruin?
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Speak for yourself. I still haven't given up on the dream of Kermit Targaryen, son of Elmo Tully and Rhaenyra Targaryen, first of his name, king of the Andals and of the Rhoynar and of the First Men, protector of the realm, whose long and prosperous rule shall ensure many a Kermit shall sit the Iron Throne in the years to come.
 
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Imperious said:
Speak for yourself. I still haven't given up on the dream of Kermit Targaryen, first of his name, king of the Andals and of the Rhoynar and of the first men, protector of the realm, whose long and prosperous rule shall ensure many a Kermit shall sit the Iron Throne in the years to come.
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The only problem I have with Kermit is that he is still a Twinkle in Elmo's eye...

And as Viserys said


View: https://youtu.be/3owgBPXavGY?t=27
 
Fanhunter696 said:
The only problem I have with Kermit is that he is still a Twinkle in Elmo's eye...

And as Viserys said


View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3owgBPXavGY
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That's the point, as I edited in:
Imperious said:
Speak for yourself. I still haven't given up on the dream of Kermit Targaryen, son of Elmo Tully and Rhaenyra Targaryen, first of his name, king of the Andals and of the Rhoynar and of the First Men, protector of the realm, whose long and prosperous rule shall ensure many a Kermit shall sit the Iron Throne in the years to come.
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No doubt that the successful reign of his grace king Kermit shall ensure that more then one king to sit the throne shall one day be named in honor of the king's sire as king Elmo Targaryen.
 
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Fanhunter696 said:
That is significantly more acceptable...

I am still worried about the Tully Gene though, that terrible curse that makes the Tullys significantly more likely to pick Idiot Balls, no matter how well-adjusted they seem to be in their day to day life...
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Fear not. We shall ensure that, with such steadfast supporters as Fozzie Mormont and Gonzo Corbray, the reign of King Kermit shall be secure from all.
 
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Fanhunter696 said:
ems, at least for now, that we will try for a match with Herwin Strong... Can we do the practical and reasonable thing with Harrenhall and build a smaller livable keep inside that humongous ruin?
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I'm not sure why you've decided we're going after Breakbones when 90% of the quest wants girlkissing.

You could order a new Keep to be built in or Near Harrenhal but I'm gonna tell you right now, that's not gonna help. Harrenhal is legit haunted and proper spooky. It's a brunt out massive ruin where an entire family line was brought to an end in dragonfire. It's stonework was mixed with the blood of the enslaved, it's supports made of Weirwood, it's foundations built atop a descreated scared forest. It is a place of ghosts, witches and things long forgotten. Such places are not easily changed.
 
Teen Spirit said:
I'm not sure why you've decided we're going after Breakbones when 90% of the quest wants girlkissing.
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I can't speak for anyone else, but I for sure know already that I want to turn house Targaryen into an actual muppets show, rather then just the metaphorical one that it already is.
 
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